Too Much Paint!!....Or Is IT!?

Hey guys. Today I bought a slick dremel tool kit with 145 pieces at wal-mart for 20bux. I used the 1/4'' sanding drum in the supplied kit to sand out a larger hole indention on my Zexel R32, and I also got an itch to do another. Anyway, it will have dual exhaust. Now, to the point. At wal-mart I purchased Color Place 15oz. equiptment grey primer for 94 cents, Color Spray 15oz. gloss white enamel for $1.67, and Color Spray 15oz. clear enamel for $1.67. I applied the primer two nights ago, and wet sanded to get rid of the roughness, and then applied about half of the can of white enamel in mist coats over the car body, the wheels, and the engine bay. Anyway. Most of the paint went on the car. It still looks a little dark. I plan to apply the rest of this can, and maybe some of another can of white to this sucker. Then, apply the whole can of clear to the body, wheels, engine bay, and undercarriage. These are 15ounce cans. My question is, since sometimes this clear has had a week to harden and still leaves small wrinkles from your finger, how long should I wait till I polish it out? I would follow p-mans thread for the paint and polish, but that's for tamiya lacquers, and this is wal-marts enamel...


...so, what do you think, would you like pics?

Pics please. Sounds like an awful lot of paint. Enamels dry even more slowly than lacquers. And with that much of it, well, that'll probably take a really long time.

I'll snap some tomorrow. It's raining wicked hard, so no chance of having a descent pic. My camera needs battery charging any way. I might stick the body inthis old microwave for about 2-4weeks, I just am soo close to being done!

your problem of the piant, is it is cheap! dont be cheap, spend the money on quality!

+1 at least go to Schucks or AutoZone and pick up Dupli Color (edit: WalMart should sell this paint too in automotive section)

your problem of the piant, is it is cheap! dont be cheap, spend the money on quality!
Ok, you see this type of post. ^^ This is for people who know squat about building a model car. Tamiya, Mr. Gunze, all those expensive paints don't work any better than the wal-mart paints. We all know about testors bad reputation. All I can say about that is I personally know people who take what you call ''shit n' a can'' and make even better paint jobs than what a person can do with tamiya...this is WITHOUT polish between coats, and misting, and clear coating.

You obviously know squat about paint. As far as duplicolor goes, well, they are enamel paints too. They aren't any better than what's in that Color Spray can. Before you say any more about what kind of paint I use, and how, "It's cheap, spend a little more, get better paint jobs" and all your bullshit. STFU. And, I'm not trying to be an ass...but you need to be put in your place. If your gona come back with this defending cheap paint shit, ponder this for a while...I've been building models since I was 8 years old. I've probably used more paint techniques and paint type mix matches than you can think of at this minute you read this post. I'm sorry, but you've simply proved your ignorance in this, and your CF post about how shitty and I qoute "Scale Auto Stuff" which is Scale Auto Style is. I can vouch for how good it is. I've seen it used enough to know. You're just too simple minded to understand a real work of perfection when you see it...

I have nothign more to say...


and, will, I'm uploading some semi-dark pics to cardomain right now.

Duplicolor is Arylic Lacquer

The ford blue I used on my turbo type R is enamel.

Was it engine paint?

So, where are the pics?

Edit: My bad, that was only an hour ago.

Ok, you see this type of post. ^^ This is for people who know squat about building a model car. Tamiya, Mr. Gunze, all those expensive paints don't work any better than the wal-mart paints. We all know about testors bad reputation. All I can say about that is I personally know people who take what you call ''shit n' a can'' and make even better paint jobs than what a person can do with tamiya...this is WITHOUT polish between coats, and misting, and clear coating.

You obviously know squat about paint. As far as duplicolor goes, well, they are enamel paints too. They aren't any better than what's in that Color Spray can. Before you say any more about what kind of paint I use, and how, "It's cheap, spend a little more, get better paint jobs" and all your bullshit. STFU. And, I'm not trying to be an ass...but you need to be put in your place. If your gona come back with this defending cheap paint shit, ponder this for a while...I've been building models since I was 8 years old. I've probably used more paint techniques and paint type mix matches than you can think of at this minute you read this post. I'm sorry, but you've simply proved your ignorance in this, and your CF post about how shitty and I qoute "Scale Auto Stuff" which is Scale Auto Style is. I can vouch for how good it is. I've seen it used enough to know. You're just too simple minded to understand a real work of perfection when you see it...

I have nothign more to say...


and, will, I'm uploading some semi-dark pics to cardomain right now.

:owned:

I know how you feel.

Josh...yes it was engine paint. That's not the point tho.

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Hope they're clear enough. I also find with this paint if I get ANY orange peel (which I hardly do, hmm, must be because it's so CHEAP) you can't see any of it. This is after the first four coats (not misted BTW) and wetsanded with 1500 and will be shot at least two more times wetsanded again with 1500, then gloss coated several times, and wetsanded 2k grit, then turtle waxed 3 times.

The chasis looks nice. But hard to tell on the body, pic not so clear.

You used half of the 15oz can of white on the car?? That's alot!!!! I paint ~2 car per tamiya can. That 15oz can paint like 5 car!!

Duplicolor engine paint is enamel.. The regular is Acrylic Lacquer..Sorry to go off topic again.

Ok, you see this type of post. ^^ This is for people who know squat about building a model car. Tamiya, Mr. Gunze, all those expensive paints don't work any better than the wal-mart paints. We all know about testors bad reputation. All I can say about that is I personally know people who take what you call ''shit n' a can'' and make even better paint jobs than what a person can do with tamiya...this is WITHOUT polish between coats, and misting, and clear coating.

You obviously know squat about paint. As far as duplicolor goes, well, they are enamel paints too. They aren't any better than what's in that Color Spray can. Before you say any more about what kind of paint I use, and how, "It's cheap, spend a little more, get better paint jobs" and all your bullshit. STFU. And, I'm not trying to be an ass...but you need to be put in your place. If your gona come back with this defending cheap paint shit, ponder this for a while...I've been building models since I was 8 years old. I've probably used more paint techniques and paint type mix matches than you can think of at this minute you read this post. I'm sorry, but you've simply proved your ignorance in this, and your CF post about how shitty and I qoute "Scale Auto Stuff" which is Scale Auto Style is. I can vouch for how good it is. I've seen it used enough to know. You're just too simple minded to understand a real work of perfection when you see it...

I have nothign more to say...


and, will, I'm uploading some semi-dark pics to cardomain right now.


This isn't true i'm afraid - cheap paint will yield a cheap result. If you can achieve an acceptable level of finish with department store paint, then you would likely be able to achieve an excellent finish with a higher quality product.

I am going to do the mature thing, just drop it and not argue with a person who i dont know over something so stupid.

Nismo...I'll try to get a better pic of the body in the sun tomorrow. I realize 15ounces should paint 5 or so cars. However, I like to wet sand and smoothen down every coat of paint I lay. Be it smooth, or peely. Plus, I want enough white plus enough clear for me to polish it out if needed.

Freelunch, every car I've paint with tamiya, mr. gunze, and such like that have orange peeled all over. Yes, I used the same technique as I did with this car. Maybe your theory only applies to you and whoever else.

Orange peel with tamiya? You had to of done something wrong cause I've never gotten orange peel with ANY tamiya paint!:)

thanks. but any ways, i never said cheap paint wasnt bad. and yea i know about paint, i aint that retarted! alot cheap paint wont have the same qaulity say duplicolor or tamiya. Testors spray cans are crap!

back to the point, the car looks nice, i never said you couldnt get a good result.
Point is, you claimed that the more you spend on a better quality paint, the finish will be that much better. This is not true. I can show numerous pictures of a few of mine, and a few of others who had good results with testors paint. Just bad plastic/glue reactions where it dipped the body in a little.

Looks pretty good. I'm curious to see how the paint is over the panel lines and deatails, though.

Let me preface this with the following statement: I hate painting bodies. This is the hardest part for me, and only until my current project did I ever get an acceptable finish.

Ok, here's the deal. Everybody gather 'round, uncle Mo's about to tell a story. In my years, not too many, I've used many different paints. I've used Tamiya, Testors, Testors Boyds, Krylon, Duplicolor, even custom mixed aerosol from Paintscratch. I've had both good and bad experiences with them all, no exceptions. I'm no paint master, but I figure I can find my way around a spray can alright. For the best (not just good) results with any paint, the steps need to be followed: prime, mist, mist, mist, wetcoat, wetcoat, wetcoat, dry, sand, clear, clear, sand, polish, wax or something like that (some people can coax great shine without clear). I don't care if this way or that way works to make a good paint job, those steps will yeild the best that that paint can possibly do. I will tell you how I know this. I did a couple paint jobs that turned out better than I ever thought possible. How? By following those steps.

Perhaps you've always had trouble with the exalted Tamiya, or Testors makes you want to bite the head off a pigeon. There could be many reasons for this, not contingent on the paint itself. You might have inadvertantly painted to close to the model, it may have been more humid out than you thought, the pigmant may have not broken up enough when painting, it may be too cold... the list goes on. The only way to get around this stuff is with experience, and luck. And some paints by a company are better than others, adding more confusion and frustration to the mix.

Now. Krylon and Duplicolor are different from Tamiya and Gunze and Testors. These model paints are superior for models. Why? Because the pigment is ground finer. That probably sounds crazy. But think about it. What details to these paints have to avoid filling on a real car? Are they near as fine and the ones on a model? No. That's where the fine pigments come in: they don't settle into panel lines and whatnot, filling them. Therefore, with the same steps, under the same conditions, a model paint will be better than a 1:1 paint. Sorry. The 1:1 may be acceptable, but the model paint would be better. Now model paint preferance is a whole nother debate.

But if you want, and with practice, you can make a perfectly fine paint job with Krylon. I've done it. In fact, I use 1:1 primer exclusively since I can get sandable primer which I like.

That all said, the best way to go is to shoot it in your airbrush cup and spray it that way. Did that on my fastback, and I'm never going back for bodies. Not ever.

Now quit bickering.

Amen.