AEM intakes

I was wondering which would be better. the normal AEM intake kit or the short ram style? I live in texas.. It doesn't rain to terrible much..but sometimes it does flood. so one thing i am worried about is hydro-lock. I have a 97 civic ex coupe. D16z6 right? I want to take on the challenge of building it all motor. so i want the best parts for that application. I am also getting a DC ssports 4-1 stainless header

W/ the minimal flooding that would go on I would say to prevent Hydrolock just install the Bypass Valve and you will be straight.

For the $ you spend the CAI is the way to go hands down.

Hope this helps a little....:frog:

i have the aem cai too. it's sweet man. you'll love the deep vrooom sound. you can feel the slight boost too.

-alex:D

whats hydrolock?

Originally posted by iLLuCiv99
whats hydrolock? in a nutshell, its when water gets sucked in through the intake and seizes up the engine, and you'll have to get a new one.

Originally posted by buh_buh
in a nutshell, its when water gets sucked in through the intake and seizes up the engine, and you'll have to get a new one.

wow that pretty much sucks lmao

but if you get a bypass valve with it, your car should be fine.

-alex

Yeah but the valve makes the intake giving u not that gain u would have without it- but I would/will install it too :D

If your going to get the AEM CAI, I would invest in the bypass valve. Although I heard it does give a slight power loss. Does anyone know how much?

i wouldn't bother with the bypass valve - an intake barely provides an power w/o it. the intake doesn't stick out underneath the car or anything so the only time a bypass valve is probably gonna come in handy is if your front end gets submerged in water

you have to completely submerge the air filter before it sucks in water like a straw...

so dont drive through puddles that are over 12 inches deep and you'll be fine.

don't worry about the bypass valve. it has actually been proven that with the bypass valve on it loses 1 hp due to the turbulence cause by it being in place. Unless you decide to drive through a lake you don't need a bypass valve. i went through a car wash with my car on that does underbody washes and no problem. don't worry about it. and you have a d16y8 engine 92-95 had the d16z6 engines.

its worth it. dont worry about the water situation. if you want to the bypass valve to insure you dont hydro lock the engine, then go for it. its gonna be pretty hard to suck up water b/c your intake will probably be somewhat protected by the splash guards underneath your car. its worth getting.:D

a guy from another board said he drove 5 hours total in hurrican force rains and did not have a single problem with the intake taking in water. the bypass valve is just another way of making money and cover their patoots. unless you decided to drive into a swimming pool or sit your car half submerged in standing water and rev then don't pay the money to get something that hampers the already small gain of a cai and you have to cut up that beautiful tube you just paid $200 for. hehe

good call push, i definitely agree with you that its just away to cover themselves. but it is pretty hard to suck up that much water.

think about all that way the water has to travel up... about a good 2-2.5 feet if not more of piping. you have to be an idiot and revving the hell out of the car and be in like knee deep water to suck it up. in the article where they tested it with the nsx they had it 100% submerged in the tank of water....when are you ever going to do that with your cai? lol and when will your cai ever see that much water unless you are an idiot? :rolleyes:

and how do the koni reds handle with the sportlines? i have the sportlines and i'm contemplating whether to get the yellows or just save some money and get some reds..

are you from anderson? from your profile you sound like this guy i see going up 5-mile all the time and he works up at outback steakhouse i think...

So in what situation would an AEM short ram intake be used over the cold air intake? I too am trying to chose between the short ram and cold air. I heard that the short ram is more for lower rpm's and the cold air is more for higher rpms.

With the short ram, you won't see as many gains as the CAI. I don't think that low rpm vs high rpm thing is true though.

with a shorty you will see a loss in hp up till about 5-6k the shorty is good for high end since you have more air availible easier... while with a cai it may lose some hp below 2500 but after that it's gains from there up.

I am thinking of getting the AEM CAI for my 99 accord ex 4cyl. and was wondering about rain, because the filter will be next to the crack in the hood will this be any danger for it to take in any water?

I really DONT want to get the bypass.

dun worry about it.

If it is true that the whole filter has to be under water then its under normal circumstances nearly impossible to hydrolock the engine- u shouldnt try to use ur car as a submarine!

how noticable are the gains with the CAI? i only ask because for a while now i've been driving with my stock intake with the cover off. i did notice a bit of a difference, mostly with the sound of the engine. but i installed an AEM CAI with the bypass valve, and i don't notice a difference in pull. i resetted the ECU as well. and the other thing is i think my car revs a bit higher than with the stock intake. did i mess something up or am i just not noticing it (the gains)? by the way, the intake is all i've done to the car ... so far :)

how did you resetted the ECU and what does it stand for and what is it?

i have the aem cai w/ bypass valve. before with stock intake, i can only peelout just by myself. now with the cai, i can peelout with 4 people in my car. people have dynoed it at 6.1 hp gain. hope this helps.

-alex :aug2:

Originally posted by xtreme419
i have the aem cai w/ bypass valve. before with stock intake, i can only peelout just by myself. now with the cai, i can peelout with 4 people in my car. people have dynoed it at 6.1 hp gain. hope this helps.

-alex :aug2:

damn alex, that's a good analogy :lol2: i gotta try that ...

hey nittanys1 - to reset your ecu check out this thread http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t25181.html hope this helps.

Only a 6.1hp gain?? What else have u already done to ur car??

I think it is important how much things u have already done- the more uve done the lower the gain. ???

The ECU is the computer in ur car whci controls the engine, and most of the other things (things like rev limiter, idle rpm, VTEC engage,...). To reset it just pull out the fuse of it for (i think) at least 10minutes (or was it one hour???) and then pull it back and let the car idle for at least yeah i think again 5 minutes- it will automatically set itself to the optimum settings.

ok so if i do that it will be "all good" but will doing this cause any harm to any other parts of my car? And should i remove all three chips or just the hazzard and the ECU?

6.1hp is a pretty darn good gain for a bolt on. I doubt you'll see that much from any other single bolt on. This stuff is a lot harder and a lot more expensive then most people think...

Originally posted by nittanys1
ok so if i do that it will be "all good" but will doing this cause any harm to any other parts of my car? And should i remove all three chips or just the hazzard and the ECU?

Follow these steps:

let the car warm up for 5-10 minutes, then turn off the car. Locate the Back Up fuse (7.5 amps) in the underhood fuse box and remove it for 5 minutes. Replace the fuse, and start the car and let it idle for a few minutes without touching the gas pedal. Turn off the car, restart it, and drive it hard! This tip, which only works on Honda and other cars with speed-density fuel injection, resets the computer and allows it to "re-learn" the engine with the new modification in place. Good for a few extra horsepower.

i got this from the old PH. the only down side is that you will lose your presets on your radio and you will have to reset your clock.

Actually that same basic procedure works on Mustangs, SD or MAF equipped. :)

the aem cai is the only mod i have on my car. the thing is that, the 6.1 hp gain wasen't from my car. it was from this other guy's car off www.accordv6.com. it might be different for yours since not all dynos are the same and cars too. he has a v6 2001 accord.

-alex

oh ok! I think the gains on a V6 arent that high as on a normal engine.

6.1 isnt much for a AEM CAI- if u have a stock setup u should really feel the difference between an AEM and a stock one. Btw there are some dynos which are showing very clearly that the normal gain is between 8- 15 hp, depending on the engine, the engine condition and a lot of other facts. I know that some ppl are gaining 20hp from it [i think it was on a B16A - stock setup].

Predator do you happend to know where those dynos are?

Just some threads below- but heres the link:

http://b16a.com/dynocenter/home.html

AHH yeah!!! I can't wait till I get the AEM CAI in so I can hook-up that bad boy and see what it feels like, Thanks for the Dyno!!

Originally posted by Predator
oh ok! I think the gains on a V6 arent that high as on a normal engine.

6.1 isnt much for a AEM CAI- if u have a stock setup u should really feel the difference between an AEM and a stock one. Btw there are some dynos which are showing very clearly that the normal gain is between 8- 15 hp, depending on the engine, the engine condition and a lot of other facts. I know that some ppl are gaining 20hp from it [i think it was on a B16A - stock setup]. I wonder if it´ll be the same for a 5th gen Prelude??;) Any infos about that, bros?

dude trust me. getting a cai or any other aftermarket intake is better than your stock one.

-alex :silly2:

Originally posted by Veetec
I wonder if it´ll be the same for a 5th gen Prelude??;) Any infos about that, bros?
5g lude has a stock CAI! So any gains will probably be less.

Check out these independent articles:

http://www.hondaprelude.com/resources/article.asp?gen=5&cat=Aftermarket&id=29
http://www.hondaprelude.com/resources/article.asp?gen=5&cat=Aftermarket&id=28
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/aem/aem-intake.shtml
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/iceman/iceman.shtml

Originally posted by fritz_269

5g lude has a stock CAI! So any gains will probably be less.

Check out these independent articles:

http://www.hondaprelude.com/resources/article.asp?gen=5&cat=Aftermarket&id=29
http://www.hondaprelude.com/resources/article.asp?gen=5&cat=Aftermarket&id=28
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/aem/aem-intake.shtml
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/iceman/iceman.shtml So according to the last link an Iceman CAI would be the better choice if I don´t want to lose power anywhere even if the gains won´t be as high as with the AEM CAI?

Originally posted by Veetec
So according to the last link an Iceman CAI would be the better choice if I don´t want to lose power anywhere even if the gains won´t be as high as with the AEM CAI?
Remember, those were subjective opinions by two different people.
From everything I've heard, you'll be pretty happy with either.
:cool:

Originally posted by fritz_269

Remember, those were subjective opinions by two different people.
From everything I've heard, you'll be pretty happy with either.
:cool: Okay, thanx!