Driven vs. Fast & Furious vs. Gone in 60 Secs

well..gone in 60 secs wasn't that good...i think Driven was way better

what do you guys think?
i'm going for Driven...most real racing movie i've seen yet

Driven was an awesome movie. Loved the part where they were going through the city. They pass the cop and he says "Uh,uh, I need backup" The effects were done nicely. The part where the car flipped off the track into the water was the best.

people need to stop being lazy about the car movies and actually go see a REAL race. all three movies were good in some aspects and bad in others, tfatf was the worst, but both Driven and Gone in 60 Seconds were really good... for movies

Originally posted by NSX

i'm going for Driven...most real racing movie i've seen yet

WHAT, YOU BEEN :bonghitte OR WHAT!!?!??!

Yea like when the cars where driving around the city at 200mph (that is unreal in iteself but dont forget they are doing 200 without a helmet, just a bit of wind in the face!)

Oh and ok, I'm gonna stop in the middle of a race and turn around to help someone..wtf...stupid hollywood crap.

oh yea and that hot blonde chick, how she was all up on that driver dude, totally fake, last I checked she was all up on me:eek:

F&F takes 2nd; 60 sec's takes 1st.

I liked F&F, had a pretty good plot for a movie like that, but Gone in 60 sec takes the cake, that chase scene with the GT-500 was awesome.

I thought they were all pretty bad...I liked the original 60 secs. much better:) ..the chase was pretty good though, until he jumped the traffic jam:rolleyes:

Originally posted by hakka
I thought they were all pretty bad...I liked the original 60 secs. much better:) ..the chase was pretty good though, until he jumped the traffic jam:rolleyes:

Where can i find the original??

Try real movies like Vanishing Point or Two Lane Black Top. All 3 of these movies pale in comparison to those two. The worst: Driven = Good Special effects and nothing else.

driven blows

Gone in sixty seconds is about jacking cars (altho be it cool) i hate car thieves

so you can guess what i voted for

Don't care. All and any of them are giving automotive culture and subcultures more exposure in society and helping them to become more accepted. Look at the wider picture peepz.

Originally posted by a007apl
http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/gone_in_sixty.htm
http://members.aol.com/eursin/films/2000/gone3.htm

all 3 movies were garbage, if you want to see good racing movies, see Two Lane Blacktop, Grand Prix and Le Mans (especially the last), although they're all no substitute for real racing...

f&f cuz it reps the true facts bout night street racing and gives a better realsim racing

The only complaint about F&F is the fact they totalled an old car

and the Story was plain sh:ot i could have written a better one

well at least it had some nice race scenes :D

i liked Gone in 60 alot, mostly because all the cars were awesome. TFATF was alright, the acting was kind of dull, I thought driven could have been better without sly stallone, maybe Arnold an his pizza shop would have been better..cause arnie's the shit. "A neurel net processor, a learning computor.." "I thought you were gonna kill me last!!" "I lied...." well anyway, i like quoting arnie cause he makes me laugh,.. what a cornball..i would have to say the best "car" movie was Road Warrior, or American Grafitti, i liked john milner's 32' ford deuce coupe alot.. what a baddass ride..then comes death race 2000..what a cheezy flick..i think ive been doing homework too long.

true the story was bad but dont forget they blew up the eclispe

o yer he blew up the eclipse they don't make those either anymore


BASTARDS

Hello every1!
I have to say i love f&f and gone in 60 secs,too.But f&f is the best movie about racing i've ever seen so far.I don't know what it is,but everytime I see that movie makes me jump into my car and go for a spin around the city.
I haven't seen driven,but i'll check that movie out.

I've seen all three of them, and I honestly can't vote on this one... they're all the best (in their own ways).

TFATF, better import racing scenes, better for the younger crowd

Gone in 60 Seconds, GREAT for the Muscle cars folks, but its just not right knowing that the "GT500" wasn't even a GT500, that just really agravates me (but its a mean car none-the-less)

Driven, awesome special effects, good storyline, really got me into CART and Formula (that movie along with getting Speed Channel on DTV)

the one thing that they ALL had was the ability to atract the car crowd, and get your adrenaline pumping, they all have their bullshit parts, and they all have their factual spots (eventhough some were VERY tiny)

driven was awful sylvester stalone is far too big to be a real driver and that other guy sucked the story was worse than F&F and
gone in sixty seconds is probably better in film wise

other than that i think F&F is best cuz it has imports

Best racing movie ever - DAYS OF THUNDER :bloated:

Originally posted by 93speed
Best racing movie ever - DAYS OF THUNDER :bloated:

days of chunder was the worst it sucked

SORRY :(

I saw TFATF again today,and i enjoyed it as i much as i did when i saw it for the first time.
This movie...drives me crazy! :D

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


days of chunder was the worst it sucked

SORRY :( '

I agree. I was just makin a lamo joke :D

initial D is really good..got me into drift racing hard..

Originally posted by mastachi
initial D is really good..got me into drift racing hard..

yea initial D is sweet i want a trueno now tho :)

yea right, i want that dudes old school RX-7..the FD3S..

sorry,to ask this stupid question,but can some1 tell me what brand is the car ELEANOR in the gone in 60 seconds movie?
10x:

its a Ford Mustang, Shelby GT 500, that is the car that you hear and that is it supposed to be

but in all honesty, it is actually a highly modified Ford Mustang Shelby GT350. it was modified so massively that you really can't tell a difference..... and the fact that they used the sound clips from the GT500 helps it be a bit harder to tell the difference

Originally posted by draqushor
sorry,to ask this stupid question,but can some1 tell me what brand is the car ELEANOR in the gone in 60 seconds movie?
10x:

where are you?

is was a Mustang GT thats what i heard not a shelby

obviously, none of them were realistic, but not many movies are.

1. fast and furious-mostly because I prefer the plot and types of cars
2. Gone in 60 seconds- fun, but cheesy
3. Driven- good special effects, but so corny it's almost unwatchable.

umm, it's just a 67 mustang with foglights and shelby tail lights, nothing special. the car probably had a real 427 in it though, and the sound clips weren't takin' from a real gt500...they are the same car that is shown in the movie.

and a number's matching gt500 is worth 100000 dollars, why would you wanna spend 2 hours smashing up a car worth more than the average jaguar and twice as rare as a 4 assed monkey? no wonder they used a fake.

and fast and furious had a horrible misinterpretation of the import scene. i have never scene so many imports in my life in one area, that is most definitely NOT the way it happens. if you had that many cars in one area it would take less than 15 minutes before half of the cars were on tow trucks heading towards impound lots waiting for a hefty fine to be tacked on to them.

they asked import guys to turn up at the scene everyone in the area got excited and turned out to see so thats why there is so many. But massive turn outs for cruises have happened in England ... altho this is the US and that doesn't really happen

i still hate fast and the furious for its BS dialogue

gone in 60 seconds has blown the GT 500 way out of proportion... most, in that good of condition, are worth 60,000 at the most.

My opinnion is that THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS is the best racing movie,yet. Gone in 60 seconds is good,but not enough.
Days of thunder?...good joke.I didn't like that movie at all! :devil:
What do you really know about NOS? Is it safe? Is it dangerous? Does it really make the difference or it's just a joke?

okay, umm, fast and furious was the most unrealistic car-related movie ever produced, if you think any different you must be smoking pot.

what do i know about nitrous oxide, (or NOS as you call it) hmm...
nitrous oxide (n2o is the scientific name) is composed of two parts nitrogen (n2) and one part oxygen (o). It was first used in dentist's office's for general anesthetic purposes and also used as a power-adder for world war 2 fighter planes. It is stored at around 1000 psi in a container ranging from 2 fluid oz to 15 lbs, and an optimum temperature of about 100 degrees farenheit is required to maintain the proper pressures. nitrous oxide in itself is not flammable, non explosive and isn't even poisonous. note : in the movie fast and fruitless, vin diesel screams 'naws' to indicate the danger the two men were facing with the flaming eclipse. in reality the bottle(s) might explode due to the extreme pressures, but they would not combust and make a green flame such as in the movie.
when the nitrous button is activated, (which is sometimes a two or three part system...some systems include switches to make sure the oil/fuel pressure is up to par before powering up the system, other switches to make sure the throttle is wide open, and than finally the switch that activates it at the driver's leisure) fast moving, high pressure solenoids (two in most cases, one for the nitrous and in most vehicles one for the extra fuel required when nitrous is being sent through the system. note: most fuel injected vehicles will actually introduce more fuel into the system automatically as soon as the nitrous is also allowed to flow, eleminating the need for the fuel solenoid.) flutter open at high speeds and the nitrous flows into the intake system. The nitrous is stored as a liquid in the high pressure bottle, but as soon as it meets with the low(er) pressures in the intake manifold the nitrous boils to a gas and the heat energy used when the nitrous boils brings the n2o charge to approximately negative 273 degrees farenheit. this is the first part of the power adding aspect of nitrous, because cooling the intake charge has an adverse effect on the power output of the engine.
the second stage is the actual injection of the nitrous into the combustion chamber. as the nitrous enters the cylinder, the high heat of combustion releases the oxygen molecules from the n2o compound. the extra oxygen mixes with the extra fuel that was introduced, creating a more powerful explosion when the mixture is ignited. thus, more cylinder pressure is present, and the engine produces more horsepower.

there, that should be enough to satisfy your nos needs.

with a properly built engine and a safely regulated system, power increases of 100% over n.a. power are attainable with laughing gas.

i got bored reading all that stuff chebbie posted :o YAWN

erm you picked up on some things but the movie is silly and the actors suck

Well, it's nice to know that at least some people here know what their talking about chebbie. That really got me when it start burning green, because neither oxygen nor nitrogen burn green(and as you said, combined they just don't burn). Also, when the tank blew the Nitrous would have vaporized and therefore caused a mushroom cloud effect(if it actually did ignite) not coated the hood like in the movie.

Oh yeah, and this is kinda off topic but i was just wondering, what company made the Satellite? Because i gotta admit, it's probably the only muscle car that I had never had even the slightest clue existed until i saw yours.

Plymouth made it. It was called the Satellite Commando. It was made around the mid-60's. Yeah man there not very common, but pretty powerful!

Just to clear some things up, the mustang in gone in 60 sec. was made to be a GT500, It was not a real one. It is not even a correct replica, it had a speacial kit made with little itegrated fog lights, and other crap. They made 3 or 4 of them for obvious reasons. The director took one home, the rest were sold to various collectors.

P.S.>There is one thing all these movies have in common....."they are all MOVIES!!!" They are made to entertain, they are not documentaries. If you want something realistic make a documentary on street racing! So, no more arguing over this crap...Thread Over!

mines a 67.
same thing as a gtx or a later roadrunner

ROFL! :hehehe:
Love the nitrous post chebbie :D :D

May I add that some of these so called Nawss kits are made in my home town of Bowling Green Kentucky at the Holly Carb plant :)

Originally posted by mastachi
yea right, i want that dudes old school RX-7..the FD3S..

Um...the FD3S is not "old school" In fact it's the newest Rx-7 available in the states. The FC3S is the designation of the white Turbo II Rx-7 in Initial D.

There's a mojor difference between those two cars, mainly that the FD is infinitly better in every way to the FC.

I would have to choose the movie Driven out of those. That movie was kick ass!! Anyone with kickass pics IM me on AIM.. Guyzrule77 is my screen name.. peace n love:p

If Gone in 60 seconds was a bad movie(okay as car movies go), then the fast and the furious made me violently ill. Not to say anything bad about the whole tuner car scene, but that movies was just god awful. There were some nice cars in it, but I could count them on my hands.

The storyline was ridiculous, the plot was nearly as thick as octane booster, and the acting was of a quality I would expect from old kung fu movies.

As for Inital D, I am busy watching the first stage! Man, thats some good anime!

Has anyone heard rumor of the SECOND F&F ?

I heard that the people responsable for F&F were all killed in a mysterious rice explosion...

gone in 60 secondsa was the best, then fast and the furious, then driven was preety good but not asgood as these two cus the street race bettween bly and stallone didnt look as real as GI60S, or F&F

Stated earlier in the thread, there all just movies, entertainment, Hollywood, etc. Driven? Super Nintendo had better graphics.
F&F was for import fans. The big race at the beggining, a 7 and an Eclipse could run 10's looking like they did, but the civics with no slicks up front just a millisecond behind. Gin60 was the best easily if your looking for a good action movie, not car movie. The 'GT 500' had to be the best looking oldie ive ever seen (no doubt cause the modern wheel/tire package, big brakes, lights that will actually light the road). But an exotic wouldve made the movie 10x better. Driving the stang like its a real sports car - sorry, its a straight line racer with suspension that a new accord could outhandle not helped by its all steel construction. Movies plain and simple. Has anyone saw "In the Red"?

i think they used the GT500 in Gin60 because a Mustang was also the star car used in the original Gin60.

F&F was funny 'cos of the ricers, and that 900hp :eek: Charger. The movie was unrealistic, how the hell would a ricey Supra keep up with that kind of hp? :confused: The Charger has 300hp over it, and a hell of a lot more torque. F&F2 will have a 650hp Skyline R34 Blackbird taking the place of the Supra. Hopefully it'll have either a '70 Cuda or '69 'Vette in place of the Charger...

GISS is good because it has exotics rather than ricers, but the original concept for the original film would be better. Eleanor was originally going to be a GT40! :eek: I liked the whatever-it-was with the central exhaust and the 3-foot flames from it. I forget what it was, it's about 9 months since I saw it. :D

From the readme of Eleanor for NFS4 by JokinenDesign:

About Eleanor:

Was the car a real Shelby Mustang GT 500?
Yes and No, an original 1967 GT 500 was used for the motor sound affects, but not as a model for the movie car. The actual cars used were just 67 Mustangs, all 11 cars were customized to look like Eleanor in this movie. Most of the cars were 289 Mustangs with automatic transmissions. Originally the production designer, Jeff Mann who is also a professed car fanatic, proposed this car be a GT 40 then when that didn't fly he suggested a Shelby Series I Cobra. Eventually they settled on a 67 GT 500. According to SAAC, the 11 Mustangs were each chosen for specific duty. Some had highly modified suspensions for the high speed slides. Some were cosmetic models used for close ups and PR shots. Others, the ones crashed and crushed didn't even have engines. The car used to record the sound affects is a 500 horsepower 428 1967 GT 500 with a great lumpy cam sound. The car is Brittany blue with White LeMans stripes. Corvette side exhaust pipes were temporarily added for taping the sounds of the car. The movie car had side pipes and side pipes produce a different sound than rear exhaust. George Watters, a long time SAAC member and top sound editor for Hollywood, obtained the GT 500 and took it to Willow Springs. He and his sound people spent six hours doing different things with the car, recording the sound of it for the movie soundtrack. So the only original GT 500 used in the movie produced the sounds you hear.

I've never seen Driven, all the reviews I read said it was a POS, and so was the game.

I'd say F&F is best, for sheer comic value (look, that guy's polished his engine! That one's got alloy wheels! etc.).

Well, in terms of plot I would have to go with GISS, but in terms of action, I have to go with F&F. Driven was just so unrealistic, I wouldn't even watch it again.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by peril
I liked the whatever-it-was with the central exhaust and the 3-foot flames from it. I forget what it was, it's about 9 months since I saw it. :D



the car that shot the flames was a late 40's early 50's mercury, chopped and dropped, also one of my favorites :D

check out this page I found. I love GISS don't get me wrong, but I ran across this a while back and had to post it. very interesting stuff

Gone in 60 sec. facts (http://www.gamewinners.com/dvd/GoneIn60Seconds.htm)

I hated driven, and F&F was too cheesy.
and if that supra was indeed a 10 sec. car, it should have destroyed that ferrari in the movie. by the way, did yall know that was the producer of F&F driving the ferrari in the movie?

For me it would be Gone in 60 seconds. Eleanor was soooooo beautiful! :D

I really liked it when they stole all those ferraris at the same time like it was a walk in the park! man!:smoker2:

I could probably gag at any of those films. F&F, a nice Veilside RX-7 and a few seconds with RJ de Vera. Everything else in there was a waste of my time. Driven, puke. Can you say "open wheel Days of Thunder"? Gone in Sixty Seconds, what's the point if you've seen the original? I sat through the re-make and practically choked at the pathetic camera angls Bruckheimer used. It was just another flashback to Days of Thunder. Damnit, Toby Halicki's masterwork deserved better than that. Halicki realized that the story was totally unimportant, the cars were the thing. He was a car collector, he used his own cars in the film. And spent a good amount of time on each one. Plus the car chase was somewhere around 30-45minutes long with no camera tricks or insanely cheesy CG re-created jumps. Take that and stuff it, Bruckheimer.

Now, if you wanted to talk about good car movies, here's a real list of must sees for the auto enthusiast.
Gran Prix- The only accurate account of a Formula 1 season I can think of. It really shows what F1 is all about.
Le Mans- It looks real because it is real. Just wish that they didn't have to edit out the Ferrari's. (Commendatore didn't like that a Porsche won in the end, so he pulled his support of the film)
The Italian Job- Another great chase scene, with Mini Coopers. How can you not love Mini Coopers? Plus it has Benny Hill and Sir Michael Caine. Top stuff.
Bullit- Not really a car movie per se, but the green '67 Mustang chasing the black '68 Charger is still a gold standard amongst car chases.
American Graffiti and More American Graffiti- George Lucas's other great franchise. It really shows what rodding was like in 1962, and then in 1969. Plus Milner's Deuce is still fastest in the valley.
Two Lane Blacktop- Surprise! Remember the black '55 Chevy from American Graffiti? Well, it's a film veteran since it got its debut here, racing against a Pontiac GTO.
Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry- How many car chase films were there in the seventies? Well, enough that this one gets mention.
Vanishing Point- Flawless. It doesn't have a trace of story to cloud it up. Well, there is some stuff trying to explain the origin of this mysterious man Kowalski. But not much else.
Toby Halicki's Gone in Sixty Seconds and if you can find it Junkman- The orginals. End of story.

There, the real car films. Filmed at speed, with tolerable characters, and completely devoid of PC nonsense. See these ones, then tell me if there's any going back to "The Fast and the Furious" or "Driven".

ya f&f 2 is not a rumor.... its happening right now... in ever city, in every back yard.... eh oops never mind.........




:p ya man fast and furious part duo is coming out... without Vin 'heart throb' Diesle.... they couldn't pay him enough to do the movie again, a) cuz he wants more serious roles and b) if you got the FF dvd you should know that the movie was extreamly low buget, and Vin only got like 20k, and now because of xXx :rolleyes: he can ask for 6 digets for most of his roles now.... i have NO clue WTF the new one is going to be aboot... but i can asure that ever dumb ass that comes out of that theater with be heading to the performance shops and Wal-mart asap for there Fast and Furious sticker power.....

i dont understand some of u ppl, all u guys do is rag on movies that make millions of fdollars, obviously they are doing something right if they are still making money right... think about it, if they made a realistic movie with all the "right" cars, and all the "right" specs, nobody would want to watch it, u people have to sit down and relise that they are MOVIES, not documentaries!!!

I agree in one way...They are made for entertainment. Period.

Now as for this thread being posted again!:apuke:

for F&F2 cars, ive seen . . . a pink s2000, srt10 viper, r34 skylines, etc.

well, at least theyre not as bad as mitsubishi eclipses and civics:devil: