h22 in a 2000 civic

im thinkin of swaping engines in my car.... i think im gonna put a h22 in it.... then someone told me to change the psi in it to 8////// what does that mean and how would i do it?????????????????/:confused:

First of all i wouldnt try jamming a big motor into a small car. I mean, you can do whatever u want but i've heard alot of problems with the prelude motor in a civic, such as understeer and the front end riding too low and blowing your shocks because the motor is so heavy. The prelude weighs 385 lbs compared to a 215 lb DX motor. Just a thought. ;)

I actually sore a 2000 model TypeR engine (1.8lt) fitting snug into a 2000 civic. if you did not know better you would think it was factory.

Always way up the cost factor multiplied by the power factor. So many options if youve got the cash.

All the best :)

Originally posted by c_walkin
im thinkin of swaping engines in my car.... i think im gonna put a h22 in it.... then someone told me to change the psi in it to 8////// what does that mean and how would i do it?????????????????/:confused:


this depends on what car you have. if u have a civic i wouldnt reccommend the swap if ur juss gonna go in a straight line. u can say bye to ur a/c and p/s cuz u wont have room for them. u will experience MAD understeer. i think wut ur buddy means by boosting up ur psi is that u need to boost up the psi in ur shocks to make them stiffer. if u want this swap then it is better if u get new aftermarket shocks and coilovers, n they gotta b hella stiff.

Well I wouldnt do that because a civic isnt good for swapping big engines in it at all. Ive heard that the car drives like a box with wheels after that!

Originally posted by MARKUSIUDIUS
I actually sore a 2000 model TypeR engine (1.8lt) fitting snug into a 2000 civic. if you did not know better you would think it was factory.

All the best :)


HMMM, a tiny 1.8 ITR engine VS. a huge 2.2 Prelude engine. There's quite a size and weight difference there.

Just wondering, but have any of you guys done this swap or personally see this swap and been in the car? I have read up a lot about it and people that actually have it done say a lot of the stuff being said about weight is just talk. There is a guy who runs a 5th gen civ with stock integ shocks, with lowering springs( I think he had springs) and said it handled better than stock. I have talked to many guys about them, and yes there some small problems but do you think people that drop in GSR engines don't have a single problem? Just make sure when you get the h22a installed that the place knows what there doing. And to the AC comment if you get a Hasport kit you can still run AC and PS. Also a warning in advance if you lower your car more than 1.75 thats when your going to run into blowing axles fast. Just wanted to help ya out and help out the H22a.

The reason your friend doesn't have any problems with his gsr engin(b18c) in a civic is because it's the same size as the b16a in an Si; hell there are kits that you can buy to do the swap. It's basicly the same type of engin. The h22 however is huge compared to the b18c, but it will fit. You might have to get rid of ac, get a smaller radiator,get new axles, do a little cutting and welding to fit the tranny, but it will work. all you have to do is shell out alot of money cause it is't easy.

smaller radiator????? When you put a gsr into a civic you have to get a bigger radiator so it can cool effeciently...so why would you get a smaller one for a big h22a? I don't know about aftermarket radiators but are they smaller and keep your everything cool or are they the same size as stock??

Originally posted by vietgangsta
The reason your friend doesn't have any problems with his gsr engin(b18c) in a civic is because it's the same size as the b16a in an Si; hell there are kits that you can buy to do the swap. It's basicly the same type of engin. The h22 however is huge compared to the b18c, but it will fit. You might have to get rid of ac, get a smaller radiator,get new axles, do a little cutting and welding to fit the tranny, but it will work. all you have to do is shell out alot of money cause it is't easy.

Just wondering but why is this topic in the N20/turbo/superchargers forum?

i actually seen a 2000 civic hatchback with a h22a in it. it had a turbonetics t4 turbo, turbonetics racing wastegate, spearco intercooler, hondata management system, c&r custom radiator, msd ignition system, greddy type-s blow off valve, he's running 11 psi and putting out more than 450HP!! on a stock bottom end and still has ps and ac. it's the company car and a daily driver. this place is located in lawrence,ma. he said it drives really good and said don't believe in those myths about understeer or blowing out your shocks.

Originally posted by 94civic
i actually seen a 2000 civic hatchback with a h22a in it. it had a turbonetics t4 turbo, turbonetics racing wastegate, spearco intercooler, hondata management system, c&r custom radiator, msd ignition system, greddy type-s blow off valve, he's running 11 psi and putting out more than 450HP!! on a stock bottom end and still has ps and ac. it's the company car and a daily driver. this place is located in lawrence,ma. he said it drives really good and said don't believe in those myths about understeer or blowing out your shocks.

Does he get 450 horsepower at the wheels? Because if he does, how can you have that much horsepower when you only running 11psi? People who run 11psi on H22a engines usually have no more than 360 horsepower at the wheels. You have any more info or pics of this car, I would appreciate it.

i'm not really sure. he just said it had 450 hp, he didn't say anything about if it was at the wheels or the flywheel

The H22 can be thrown in a civic. Its pretty pointless tho. Just because its a 2.2 doesnt mean your cars gonna be fast. I wanted an H22A (the JDM ONE) in my civic but the only reason i wanted the bigger engine is because the engine block is so much larger, it can handle boring more than lets say a B16, with slightly less worry about warping in extreme heat.

I think you should look at actual figures for the H22 before you go through the hassle of the swap. The hp is 200 for the US H22A. Now you can save yourself a lot of work and weight by getting the 97-00 Integra type r B18C5 engine. This puts out only 5 hp less then the H22.

Well anyways. I think...save your money and your time and just go with a B18c5. Build it up. Add a turbo. Youll be happier

The B18C5 will save you some time, and probably some money IF you can find one.

if you are going to turbo it then you should go with a b18c and not the type r motor. reason why is because if your not beefing up the internals then the b18c has lower compression than the b18c5, so this way you'll be less likely to ruin your motor

If you want to just do drag racing that is cool but if you like the whole road racing deal or drive a lot you want to go with a b-series motor.Like some of the others have said you will have problems with the axles binding(smashing together)which can equal busted axles.Good luck with what route you choose.

The ride is just fine. You can also have A/C in your car. Check out this link. It is a personal friend of mine. He has an Integra with a H22a swap and A/C.

http://www.teamkoncept.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=232

i agree with jdm db8.......if your car is going to be a mostly drag car......an h22a has no contest.......a lot of pro import drag racers have h22 mills in their cars........stephan papadakis has 'em in both of his cars........and i've seen a DAILY DRIVEN TEN SECOND BOOSTED H22 CIVIC HATCHBACK..........i have also heard about the crazy understeer but as long as you don't cut her loose on the highways, i don't really see a problem?.......unless of course, you want to road race like db8 stated........

I'm just wondering but how many of you have actually experienced or rode in a H22a civic? If you haven't, don't say anything.

Originally posted by Hanguk87
I'm just wondering but how many of you have actually experienced or rode in a H22a civic? If you haven't, don't say anything.

Very well said:)

Originally posted by Bianca
I think you should look at actual figures for the H22 before you go through the hassle of the swap. The hp is 200 for the US H22A. Now you can save yourself a lot of work and weight by getting the 97-00 Integra type r B18C5 engine. This puts out only 5 hp less then the H22.

well, 1.8 vs. 2.2 = torque

Originally posted by Bianca
Well anyways. I think...save your money and your time and just go with a B18c5. Build it up. Add a turbo. Youll be happier

yeah, maybe swapping costs, but last i seen the H22A and tranny and everything is 2300 and the B18C5 and tranny, etc... was 5800

I would just spend the at least 4500 it will cost afer the suspension and engine stuff, and just build up your stock engine, and turbo that or something. a turbo B18C5 will be so much momey by the time you get it in there.

My friend spent about 6 months putting together figures for all the pros/cons of a few engine swaps, talking to several shops and engine importers. He actually ended up going with the friendly LS-Vtec hybrid, because the cost was great for what he ended up with. The H22A shouldn't be counted out if you really want to do it, but he said when he inquired about such a setup, all of the shops recommended against it, but didn't say they would turn the job down. The difference is simply the amount of trouble you're going to go to getting the engine to fit in with accessories such as AC, PS, etc... Someone mentioned a kit, but there's more of an investment there I'm sure, and someone asked about radiators. In my experience, you can definitely buy aftermarket radiators that are rated better than stock ones, which are still much thinner. Anyway, swapping something like a B16A-2, LSVtec or a B18C (at the inflated price) is just going to be easier. They probably won't necessitate dropping money into your suspension/engine accessories right away. I don't think there's such a thing as an "impossible" engine swap. People have put a V8 into a Ford Focus, so it's all just a matter of how much time and money you have to invest. Personally, I think if you sit down and weigh out all the factors like time/money versus the end result, you'll find that the H22A is not the best choice for a daily-driven Civic, but if you were looking for a boring daily driver, you probably wouldn't be contemplating the swap anyway.
Good luck!
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Ok Ok this is an old post but I got to reply to it. A H22 into a Civic or CR-X is very doable, and its not that bad. There is no understeer and the H22 is not to heavy. A B-series engine setup weighs 300 lbs and the H22 weighs 385. that’s not that much more. A good set of springs and shocks will compensate for the added pounds. BTW I speak with experience here I have a 91 CR-x with a H22 turbo in it. The only problem I have is torquesteer. But its not that bad

I NEED SOME info on swapping h22a into EK 96-99 civics. any website or stories from the owners of this cars?

listen ive gota eg civic hatch that has the h22a! GO FOR THE SWAP YOU GET BRUTE POWER AND CRAZY AMOUNTS OF TORQUE! BUT, (THATS A BIG OL' J-LO BUTT) YOUVE GOTTA DO MADD SUSPENSION WORK. when i had gotten it done in the first place the shit was understeering like a bitch once i hit 7o mph. but now that i had tuned the shit outta my suspension i hit 1o sec. Eazy ina 1/4 mile (ALL MOTOR), and i only get underateering once i hit 13o mph!

what kind of suspension to do you use then ?

coilovers, what type of springs and shocks ?

is tein ha good enough?

What kind of times were you running with a turbode h22a crx?

Originally posted by 95CiViCSHPwR'd
listen ive gota eg civic hatch that has the h22a! GO FOR THE SWAP YOU GET BRUTE POWER AND CRAZY AMOUNTS OF TORQUE! BUT, (THATS A BIG OL' J-LO BUTT) YOUVE GOTTA DO MADD SUSPENSION WORK. when i had gotten it done in the first place the shit was understeering like a bitch once i hit 7o mph. but now that i had tuned the shit outta my suspension i hit 1o sec. Eazy ina 1/4 mile (ALL MOTOR), and i only get underateering once i hit 13o mph! You´re doing the 1/4 mile in only 10 seconds all motor?? Which other mods do you have got?

Originally posted by c_walkin
im thinkin of swaping engines in my car.... i think im gonna put a h22 in it.... then someone told me to change the psi in it to 8////// what does that mean and how would i do it?????????????????/:confused: h22a = naturally aspirated = no turbo = no psi (yea, maybe in the tires ;) )