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How much NOS?


P10Skin
01-12-2002, 08:04 PM
Hi Guys

I am seriously looking at getting a NOS set up what is my best option? (frogger, wet, dry etc)????? and How many HP could the engine run with out me having to install new pistons and rods?

Cheers

John

kenchan
01-12-2002, 09:00 PM
as soon as the weather gets warmer here, I plan to do a zex 50shot (dry kit). guessing that I can put down about 150hp at the wheels...so about 0-60mph 7.5sec, 1/4mile 15.0sec

good enough for my commuter sedan.

P10Skin
01-12-2002, 10:31 PM
I was thinking sumthing along the lines of a power shot 50-100 HP would this work? or am I better witha frogger system of the same HP?

G22DET
01-13-2002, 01:35 AM
NOS good enough for your commuter? it doesn't do anything unless the button is pressed so the car is still slow as before...even when NOS kicks in, only faster for a little while.

P10Skin, there are a lot of other options than NOS that can make your car faster. If you are building a drag car, go for NOS because that's its ONLY purpose. For a street commuter, you want power and torque ALL the time.

P10Skin
01-13-2002, 01:37 AM
Nah the main purpose for NOS in my car would be power on tap for the odd drag run I do, Burnout comps and beating hondas at lighs :D

p_r_i_m_e_r_a
01-13-2002, 02:35 AM
I do have to agree with G22DET,

IMO once you get those x-tra HP's you will regret not "always" having them on tap.

But I'm also positive that a local shop can provide you with a
100shot NOS in about 4-hours.

Hey either way it's still a big step in making you ride faster:)
Thats all that counts.

P10Skin
01-13-2002, 02:59 AM
But is the engine capable of runnign 100 HP NOS with out taking damage? and what is my best choice as far as injection goes? wet, dry, frogger? etc

Thanks

John

G-Forces
01-13-2002, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by P10Skin
But is the engine capable of runnign 100 HP NOS with out taking damage? and what is my best choice as far as injection goes? wet, dry, frogger? etc

Thanks

John
Without getting some sort of GOOD ecu tuning that would be very pushing it. You could probably get a 50shot with some sort of piggy back fuel richener and be OK. But for a 100shot you should probably look into getting a JWT NOS ECU upgrade. I've heard really good things about this upgrade from NOS people.

p_r_i_m_e_r_a
01-13-2002, 06:10 PM
I've seen multiple Sr20's running 150-shot NOS with precise engine management, so yes a 100-shot is possible.

For starters, and to play it safe a 50-70 shot is the way to go.:rolleyes:
I'd recommend buying a MSD ignition system no matter what you decide.
A direct port setup will help each cylinder gets its fair share of NOS.

Does anyone know the current price of a JWT NOS system?

P10Skin
01-13-2002, 07:48 PM
What about timing???

as far as I understand when Nitros is compressed it brakes into oxygen and nitrogen so u have to add more fuel to the mix to keep the mix correct but wouldnt you also need to advance or retard the spark to give it the proper amount of time to burn????

G-Forces
01-14-2002, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by p_r_i_m_e_r_a
Does anyone know the current price of a JWT NOS system?
I'm not exactly sure but I think it's and extra $400 over the price of the ECU upgrade. Expensive but it's about as good as you're going to get. NOS support right in your ECU, sweet stuff. :D

AznVirus
01-14-2002, 02:45 PM
id go with a dry nos setup. ive heard that wet can really hurt your engine :eek: why not get a turbo and prolong the life of your engine? or get a DET at that?

p_r_i_m_e_r_a
01-14-2002, 06:40 PM
This is interesting............

Nitrous Oxide Systems, the leader in nitrous technology, is announcing the availability of the worlds most sophisticated nitrous delivery system ever…. The NOSzle™. This patented new nitrous delivery system is so revolutionary that that it makes all other direct port wet nitrous systems obsolete.The NOSzle system is available for 8 Cyl. P/N 08008NOS, 6 Cyl. P/N 08006NOS, and 4 Cyl. P/N 08004NOS, EFI engines. The NOSzle system is capable of producing 75 to 600 bolt on horsepower.

The NOSzle system allows for direct port nitrous delivery on any MPI style manifold with no drilling or modifications to the manifold itself. The NOSzle simply fits under the existing fuel injector delivering nitrous and added fuel at the injector for optimum nitrous distribution.............

http://speedoptions.com/news_curren...search&v=1&pg=0

ericdd
01-15-2002, 05:47 PM
I was wondering if with the sneeky pete cheater system ( small 10"x2" bottle) if you need to increase your fuel with the shot. I want an extra kick but don't want a huge kit that will ruin my motor.

JustinP10
01-16-2002, 03:36 AM
I think the JWT ECU and NOS module run in the neighborhood of $1200, don't forget for anything over an 80 shot of nitrous your injectors (and possibly the fuel pump, i'm not sure) will be very close, if not maxed out, so you'll have to upgrade those as well. That's not including all of the nitrous equipment as well. It adds up quickly. A friend of mine is running all this on his Sentra SE-R, and to do it properly (aka.. still have the motor running after you squeeze) it does cost money, he's going to run the 100shot and he upgraded the injectors (i think he went 50lb (or 550s?) cause he's eventually going turbo and got a nice walbro fuel pump (i think, it might be a TTZ pump, but i'm pretty sure it's a walbro). Hope this helps

2002G20Racer
01-16-2002, 03:48 AM
Im thinking about getting a little cheater system about 50 shot for my G20. I almost never race (havent in like 2 months now) and I dont have a triger finger. So a NOS system would save me gas money, auto's work well with NOS, and it would be easyer on my engine. Remember a turbo is always putting stress on your engine but NOS is only when the trigger is down. I would much rather have a turbo though.

JustinP10
01-16-2002, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by 2002G20Racer
So a NOS system would save me gas money, auto's work well with NOS, and it would be easyer on my engine. Remember a turbo is always putting stress on your engine but NOS is only when the trigger is down. I would much rather have a turbo though.

How does a nitrous system save gas money? you mean in comparison to a turbo kit? Also, that's only if you have a dry system, where there is no extra fuel, but, that's also VERY bad on your motor. And the turbo thing is a myth, they are not harder on the motor than nitrous, as they are not "on" all the time, unless you drive like a crazy focker! :D (if you've seen meet the parents, when they drag race ALL the way home, that part's funny... heh) When you are not boosting, there is nothing hurting the engine, no extra manifold pressure, no extra fuel, etc... the only thing i could think of would be added packpressure from the turbo, but... with a larger exhaust past the turbo, etc... who knows. (I'm sure someone on this list does know.... Bueller..?)

2002G20Racer
01-16-2002, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by JustinP10


How does a nitrous system save gas money? you mean in comparison to a turbo kit? Also, that's only if you have a dry system, where there is no extra fuel, but, that's also VERY bad on your motor. And the turbo thing is a myth, they are not harder on the motor than nitrous, as they are not "on" all the time, unless you drive like a crazy focker! :D (if you've seen meet the parents, when they drag race ALL the way home, that part's funny... heh) When you are not boosting, there is nothing hurting the engine, no extra manifold pressure, no extra fuel, etc... the only thing i could think of would be added packpressure from the turbo, but... with a larger exhaust past the turbo, etc... who knows. (I'm sure someone on this list does know.... Bueller..?)

I did mean in comparison to a turbo and I also drive hard. Avg shift point would be 3.5-4k rpm for me and thats when im driving normal. The only time I drive like a sane person is when im driving my mom or my girl friend. So the car would be under boost every day. But this is a bad habbit and I hope all you out their will be good drivers. Im trying to get rid of this habbit but its sooooo hard.

sfg20t
04-21-2002, 06:06 AM
bringing this post up, cuz i rather continue an old post, rather than put up another one just like it. =) newayz, i was thinking about NOS for my car. just for drag purposes and show. all about the points. newayz, 50 shot would give me how much hp? and i read that there's no need for an ecu upgrade if it's just a 50 shot? i'm not too clear on how nos works, as in 50 shot/100 shot...how long does a bottle last? ok. those are my questions. =) plus, any g20s out there running nos? please let me know what you think.

why not turbo you ask? cuz i have an automatic. and that's that.

P10Skin
04-22-2002, 02:23 AM
auto isnt an excuse if uve got the money to turbo im sure u could get an engine and 5sd box for only slightly more than the whole DET engine so Turbo :D

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