Smoked a Camaro

We started from a stop and he was about a car back at 50-60mph. After that he decided not to race anymore. It was a 90something V6 camaro. So wohooo I can destroy a camaro even if it is just the 3.8L. :rolleyes:

cudos to you old chap!!!! good kill :smile:

The race was fair and a win is a win :smile:

good kill but it is to be expected if you hit 60 in under 5 seconds you can run with/beat a SS so next time put one of those big boys down for the count then i will be truly impressed but i always like to see a camaro lose.

Well he probably won't take down an SS just yet, but he could definetely catch some bigger fish if he hits 60 in under 5s (I'm impressed if that's true). Keep up the good tuning.


:smokin:

1996 Camaro SS can only do 0-60 in 5.8 seconds.

I used to own one.

If he's able to hit 0-60 in less than 5 seconds, it wouldn't even be a race, more like a slaughter.

thats not intirely true, youd be surprised how some cars acceleration dramitically drops after 50 60 mph, if he doesnt have alot of top end the ss will catch him quick, i can hang with alot of cars that run around 14s in like the first 1/8th mile,i was runnin low 10s, and broke into the 9s in the 1/8th mile, shit i even take them off the line, but this is in a big bronco, and i had a full tank of gas, some odd 25 gallons, but the top end isnt very good so they catch me pretty damn fast

Am I misunderstanding or were you just trying to justify your statement on the performance of a Camaro SS based on your Bronco?

what are you talking about.. you can hang with cars that run 14 in a 1/8 mile. and you run 9s on a 1/8 mile track.....well yes i quess you can hang with them.... is that what your sayin or not..... any way nice kill what do you think you whould run in the 1/4mile jeffs_GTP_sleeper ???

good kill

dont count out those comp G's, they respond very well to tuning. 15 seconds stock in the 1/4 mile as tested by the scca(i'm sure it can do better). Hopefully he invests in a smaller pulley.

any way nice kill what do you think you whould run in the 1/4mile jeffs_GTP_sleeper ???

I don't know, but I would hope it will be deep into the 13s. I am seriously debating going out to SAC tonight. If I do I'll get back to you with what I got. Thanks for the other responses.



15 seconds stock in the 1/4 mile
Yeah most people on clubgp are getting ~14.8s in the 1/4. The best to date for the Comp Gs is a 14.5s Stock 1/4 time.

Hopefully he invests in a smaller pulley.
My pulley is pretty small, 3.25 < 3.8(stock) and I have a 3.0 to run at the track with some higher octane fuel.

i was using that as an example, i ran a 16 in the 1.4 mile, the top isnt very good

What are you running to get 4.95's 0-60?

THe 90's had a 3.4 BTW. so you knwo w/e..

THe 90's had a 3.4 BTW. so you knwo w/e..



From '93 to '95 the 3.4L was standard. In '95 however the 3.8L became an option, in '96 the 3.4L was droppin in favor of the 3.8L and it became the base V6.

Thanks for clearing that up for everyone.

Oh dont even even get me started on the 3.4 ltre DOHC Piece of shit, one of the worst engines GM ever made.... :mad: Try working on one, and you will know what i'm talking about.

Well after looking at the mid 90's camaros it looked more like a 95 than a 96.

95:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/3/web/315000-315999/315251_4_full.jpg

96:
http://www.swbs.com/a.gif

Good kill. BTW the 95 is the same as the 96 body style wise. In fact 1993-1997 are the same body style. In 98 they revised the look again until 2002. The V6's are typically the same engine as yours, just w/o forced induction. I raced a heavily modified GTP in my former n20 owerd LS1 camaro and got killed (He runs low 12's). His name is Martin, you may know him on the ClubGP board (Mr2177)

nothing like a blown 6 :grinno: people around this area don't know what a supercharged car sounds like I give it gas let the SC scream and they still insist on going at it :wink:

I would think your 13's, my friend may have a freak 97 GTP. 1.9 rockers, 3.4 pulley his biggest mods and he pulls off a 13.7, plans on DHP and a shift kit soon.

Well I din't do as well as I thought but if I improve my shitty 60' from 2.77 to a 2.0-2.1 I should be deep into the 13s with this setup.

I got a best of [email protected] w/ a 2.77 60' because I can't launch the damn thing. I am hoping this is just because it is the first time I have ever been to the track with any car. I am probably going to go again next week just to nail the launch.

if you think your comp gtp does 0-60 in under 5 secs with nothin but some headers and exhaust i wanna no what your smokin cuz obviously your hallucinating, road and track quotes that family sedan at 6.8 0-60 stock so either tell us what else you got under the hood or quit tellin fish stories

msn autos has it at 7.12 0-60 and 15's in the quarter i can give you the link if you want lol :screwy: :rofl:

1st: Those times aren't always accurate
2nd: Just because they're a magazine doesnt mean they are the best drivers.
3rd: The GM 3800 responds very well to minor tuning.
4th: Family sedan with the heart of a lion, i know personally, i've taken quite a few down some back roads by the shop i work at.

Get your nose out of the magazines and get into some cars for a change

ive raced one in my 3000 and smoked it on the highway so i think ive got my nose outa the mags thank you

msn autos has it at 7.12 0-60 and 15's in the quarter i can give you the link if you want lol :screwy: :rofl:

Who gives a shit what results they got? If you had actually taken one WOT i might believe you, but i know what those cars can do and i know it's very believeable.

ive raced one in my 3000 and smoked it on the highway so i think ive got my nose outa the mags thank you

Doubt it :rolleyes:

i think its capable of those times but no way with nothin but exhaust and headers lioke i said i raced one and it couldnt hang with a slightly modded 3000 SL so no way, but im not saying the car sucks it doesnt thats just not possible

why do you doubt me,, like i have somethin to prove here on the internet :sly: i think your being naieve if you beleive this guy. but truthfully i raced one for about 5 miles on the highway with more thatn one pull so, believe dont believe me i really dont care. :grinno:

I already told you i know for a fact they can. I've driven one.

I even just recently did maintenance on one, guy just bought it and i asked if he'd done anything with it, and he was testing in the high 14's(stock) Not all track and testing conditions are going to be the same wherever you go. And you would think that someone who drives the car all the time like my good ole buddy steak, they will know how to launch the car better. And as for your race, some people just can't drive, are you sure it was a comp g?

yea im sure cuz it was an auto and my Girlfriend was driving it an i know she can drive, so .. all im saying is there is no way that car being only slightly modified is capable of of vr4 0-60 times

if you think your comp gtp does 0-60 in under 5 secs with nothin but some headers and exhaust i wanna no what your smokin cuz obviously your hallucinating, road and track quotes that family sedan at 6.8 0-60 stock so either tell us what else you got under the hood or quit tellin fish stories

My car is good for a sub 5s 0-60. I just raced it on Wednesday and can post a time slip where my 1/8 mile can be converted to a 0-60 time right here:

http://www.teamnabr.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8


I got a 9.1 @80.9(1/8) on my 14.0s(1/4) run. This is the first time I have ever been to a track and I am sure I will do better next week. I am sure with practice I can improve my 2.77 60' to atleast a 2.2 on street tires which should get me deep into the 13s.

Here is a link to the 1/4 mile listing from clubgp. You can see what mods were used to get whatever times. There are 100s of GPs running sub 5 second 0-60s and there are scores running sub 4s 0-60s.

http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/qtrmile.asp?txtfunc=1

but truthfully i raced one for about 5 miles on the highway with more thatn one pull so, believe dont believe me i really dont care. :grinno:

Did you ever imagine the possibility it was a Grand Prix GT? or even a GT with GTP badges?

yea im sure cuz it was an auto and my Girlfriend was driving it an i know she can drive, so .. all im saying is there is no way that car being only slightly modified is capable of of vr4 0-60 times

Too bad you are wrong. :grinno:

My mods:
Headers, 2.5" exhaust with no cat, 1.9 Rockers, Intake, and a 3.25 pulley

If I can get a 14.0 with a 2.7 60' imagine what I would have with a 2.1!
A 3000SL does not stand a chance from a stop, sorry. A VR4 would probably be fun race if it was stock.

By the way I am not pleased with my sub 5s 0-60 and 14.0s pass

I had a freakin 2.77 60'!!!!!!!! I should have a 4.5s 0-60 and a 13.5s 1/4!

your numbers are alittle off. how is your car goin to do 0-60 in under 5 seconds yet still run a 14.0? most cars that run's 14.0 does 0-60 in around 5.5-6.0 seconds. and a car that does do 0-60 in 4.9 seconds are low 13 second cars. if you claim that if you can run a 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and only run a 13.5 then that means your top end must really suck balls. becusae a 4.5 0-60 second car is usually in the high 12's trapping close to 110mph. what was your trap speed for that run by the way? i'm not here to bust your balls but your 0-60 does not match your 1/4 time. OR your car falls flat on its face after it hits 80 or 90

good job tatII I AGREE TOTALLY THAT EXACTLY RIGHT! :iagree:

OK used the LS1M software to calculate a 0-60 on the street. Now for the track, I got a 9.1 @80.9mph in the 1/8 on the [email protected] run.

convert 1/8 to 0-60 (http://www.teamnabr.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8)

At this site it is possible to convert 1/8 mile times to 0-60s and mine comes up at 5.0s with a 2.77 60' shitty launch. THAT is how I have a 4.95s 0-60 time. I will do better this wednesday, and if anyone wants to see a sort of quick GTP come to Sacramento Speedway this Wednesday.

I never thought there would be this many doubters for a terrible track time. These GTPs are good for sub 4second 0-60s, that is their specialty, low-mid range power and tons of low end torque. Compared to the average car that runs similar times yes the topend is the weakness.

your clames are just not possible my friend, a gto cant even do what your talkin about and thats your cars daddy so?

just run a quarter and quit guessin

just run a quarter and quit guessin

HEY BLOCKHEAD!
I just was at the track and ran a [email protected] with a 2.77 60' did you forget? That had a [email protected] 1/8 mile which can be converted here to a 0-60 of 5.0s.
convert (http://www.teamnabr.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8 )

Have you been edjumacated yet senor?

your clames are just not possible my friend, a gto cant even do what your talkin about and thats your cars daddy so?


I believe that modifications plays a role here...

That site is very cool! I did the estimate for our race car and it came up as 0-60 in 2.0 seconds, lol, that is if the car woudl run what I think it would (6.40s, 107 mph or so, maybe 6.30s @ 108)

TatII have you forgotten a little thing called final drive ratios, not all cars are going to launch and finish the same, which seems to be what you think in that post.

Modspeak time for me.

3KSL95, consider this your warning. Jeffy here has posted his timeslip, the track he pulled the time at, his mod list, and the site he used to convert his timeslip into a 0-60 time. He admits to a bad launch and fully believes there's more in the car.

All you're doing is coming back and saying. "No, you're wrong 'cause I said so."

Start arguing sense, like Tat is doing, or you'll find yourself on an AF vacation.

Modspeak over.

So, anyhoo, Jeff, you have any good sites lined up for getting performance internals for 3800's? My boss has the engine out of his Bonneville SSEi (wicked rod knock, so he's getting it bored .030 over and rebuilding it) and is interested in cams, pistons, the whole nine yards.

Thanks, I can't wait to see what the car will do on Wednesday with lower front tire pressure, removing the headlight, and using the 3.0 pulley.



So, anyhoo, Jeff, you have any good sites lined up for getting performance internals for 3800's? My boss has the engine out of his Bonneville SSEi (wicked rod knock, so he's getting it bored .030 over and rebuilding it) and is interested in cams, pistons, the whole nine yards.

I think the best place to check would be:
www.intense-racing.com or www.3800performance.com

Also:
www.zzperformance.com and thrashercharged.com

You probably already knew about those though, sorry I can't help.

good luck wed. be sure and post the slip.

I don't know, but I would hope it will be deep into the 13s. I am seriously debating going out to SAC tonight. If I do I'll get back to you with what I got. Thanks for the other responses.




Yeah most people on clubgp are getting ~14.8s in the 1/4. The best to date for the Comp Gs is a 14.5s Stock 1/4 time.


My pulley is pretty small, 3.25 < 3.8(stock) and I have a 3.0 to run at the track with some higher octane fuel.

alcohol injection, screw high priced race fuel

http://www.smcenterprises.com/

good luck wed. be sure and post the slip.

I will be sure to post the best one for you.

Wow I don't feel so bad about my 2.3 sec. 60' times w/ DR's now :p If I were you author, i'd just shoot for a 2.2 sec. 60', cause i've heard that those cars are relatively hard to launch. That is a sick 1/4 mile time for that crappy of a 60'. BTW your 1/8 mile wasn't all that bad (9.1 sec.). I'm surprised with that loss of traction that your car ran that quick through the 1/8 mile mark. All I can say is that it has gotta be the torque.

so the top end is not as good at the low end. yeah i figured that becsaue on the 240sxforums there is a guy with a SR20DET that runs a high 13 and he saw a GTP on the highway and from 40-90 he couldn't gain on him. but once they hit 90-100mph the 240 caught up with the quickness and by 110mph the 240 was like 3 cars ahead. so i guess they really do lack highend compared to its low end.