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xoriceboi
04-19-2004, 07:15 PM
Whats up guys n gals,
I have a 2000 civic lx.....auto;-( with Cold Air Intake/Bomz Header/Exhaust

which is like 110hp if that.
My friend is a mechanic and tells me he can get my lil d16y7 motor to push around 270 hp if not 300 n/a no FI

What he would be doing is:
-Lighten crank
-new cam w/higher lift
-new performance valve springs
-port polish head
-performance torque convertor.

Is it possible or is he yankin my chain. I mean, if it's true i would jump on it in a sec but would like to hear from you peeps first.
Let me know what you guys think, any advice or info would be so much appreciated!

crxlvr
04-19-2004, 07:26 PM
no chance with those mods to be pushin anywhere near 270hp, youd be lucky to even break 170hp with those mods.

xoriceboi
04-19-2004, 07:32 PM
thanx for the quick reply but could you care to explain? thanx alot

B1SiR6A
04-19-2004, 08:54 PM
Its single cam, save the money and swap because in the end its really not worth it, you'll have props for having a quick d series but you wont be able to run with dual cam civics with the same or a little less work done so it just depends on what you plan to do.

crxlvr
04-20-2004, 07:49 PM
whats to explain, there is just no way on earth, that with those mods will you be anywhere near 270-300hp, especially without forced induction.

SiGNAL748
04-20-2004, 08:40 PM
No way you'll be pushing 270+hp in that motor.

Simply because, if i put those mods on my h22, not even I would be pushing that much. And i already have 200hp to boot.

Invest in a dohc b series swap, and shoot for a more realistic goal. Say, 180-200whp.

Good Luck.

xoriceboi
04-22-2004, 05:09 PM
so how much hp would you think that i would get out of this job? He wants to charge me $1k....
does this sound reasonable? I was planning on turboing this but he said to do this performance tune-up before i turbo it. He would also be throwing in a Datsun 240z stock turbo with BOV.

Let me know what you guys think.

xoriceboi
04-25-2004, 01:51 AM
update:
this is what he is gonna do.
-Lighten crank(knife edge)
-new cam w/higher lift
-new performance valve springs
-port polish head
-performance torque convertor
-boring .004
new pistons and rings
oil slinger

SiGNAL748
04-25-2004, 01:59 AM
is he charging you 1k for everything? just parts? just labor?

1k seems pretty cheap for both.

xoriceboi
04-26-2004, 05:38 PM
he's a good buddy of mine, and that price is for the complete job(parts,labor,and service)

also, he has guaranteed me that if he doesn't produce 250+ hp on the dyno, he will give me a full refund. I told him about what you all have said about this job and it makes him want to do it even more now just in spite of all of us doubting him.

Let me know what you guys think!

SiGNAL748
04-26-2004, 08:07 PM
I still think a b series swap would be more worth your money.

although i do find it interesting that he still thinks that he'll be pushing 250+whp on a sohc n/a setup... he's really ripping himself off, as the parts ALONE, should come around the 1k he's charging you for everything.

Anyway, if you go through with this (which i recommend you don't), and he DOES find a way to push 250+whp n/a, i will spank his ass and call him captain.

xoriceboi
04-26-2004, 10:23 PM
haha.........you crack me up Signal;-p so why would anyone go through with these mods if they are so expensive??
How much horsepower would you think this job would do.
He also said that he would be dyno tuning the motor as well.......if that gives you a better idea.

DeleriousZ
04-26-2004, 10:35 PM
if i were you.. i'd try and be there when he's doing the dyno tuning... or at least ask for a few of the sheets just to make sure he's not bsing you.... there's no doubt you'll feel a huge difference.. just make sure it's the difference you think it is with some hard numbers

crxlvr
04-27-2004, 03:36 PM
id love to see the results of a dyno run after this, and 1k seems way to cheap for all the parts he is giving you. i spent near $700 just for cams, and they only give you maybe 15-20hp at best. please get before and after dyno sheets. if this guy can get you 250HP on that sohc N/A, id give em my car.

xoriceboi
04-27-2004, 06:45 PM
so why would anyone go through all this trouble on a motor if it costs alot but doesn't really help any??....

xoriceboi
04-27-2004, 08:02 PM
ok well, i am paying him $500 up front, we are gonna go to the dyno together and if he doesn't get between 200-240ponies, he's gonna keep tuning until he reaches or do what he has to do. And then i make him weekly payments of $50.

tell me now if i shouldn't do it......
And its hard for me to tell who knows what b/c he has a datsun 280z with 600+hp with FI...done all by himself, so i can't exactly say he doesn't know his shiet......and yes, i have ridden in it!

SiGNAL748
04-27-2004, 08:18 PM
I'm not saying its exactly worth the money. But its quite an interesting project. For that money though, its not exactly a bad deal. People might call you an idiot for doing it, but i'm gonna go ahead and give you a thumbs up on the deal, simply because i wanna see the results of it.

You should make a bet though, if he can't make it to 250whp. He gives you half your money back.

And if he does...lets just say you owe him a special favor :icon16:

xoriceboi
04-27-2004, 11:29 PM
he guarantees 200hp minimum,240hp maximum.
I would give him the $500 up front and at the dyno, we would see who is right. If he doesn't get it to 200hp, i either get my money back or i let him keep doing what he does until he reaches his goal.....

i mean, is about 90+hp worth $1000? if he can accomplish this?

crxlvr
04-28-2004, 09:38 AM
maybe, just maybe in a shot in the dark he may be able to pull 200hp out of his ass or something, but go for it, i like the idea that if he cant come through for you, you get half your money back, whats their to lose?

xoriceboi
04-29-2004, 09:33 AM
i ended up not going through with this job, i got a person to buy my car. So i will be back with an rsx or prelude pretty soon.

thanx again you guys for all the help
and you can check out my car here!
http://www.autolocal.com/detail.asp?CarID=5665372

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