r33 awd?
dett
04-18-2004, 04:34 AM
r33 came in awd right?
styln32
04-18-2004, 05:27 AM
haha ya it did gts-4 and more importantly GTR
SkylineUSA
04-18-2004, 04:36 PM
No, its not AWD per say.
styln32
04-18-2004, 08:55 PM
How do u mean is there a difference between 4wd and awd both skylines mentioned have a 4 wheel steer and four wheel drive doesnt that fit under Awd.
R33
04-19-2004, 12:15 AM
It's a complicated 4wd system which is rear wheel bias. The car will only be 4wd as and when the system thinks that it needs to be so eg when the sensors detect rear wheels slippage or when the g sensors detect that the rear is snapping out.
Even when the car is on 4wd mode, it is still complicated. Because the exact torque split between the rear and front is still determined by the system.
At any other time, the car is rwd.
Even when the car is on 4wd mode, it is still complicated. Because the exact torque split between the rear and front is still determined by the system.
At any other time, the car is rwd.
SkylineUSA
04-19-2004, 01:00 AM
It's a complicated 4wd system which is rear wheel bias. The car will only be 4wd as and when the system thinks that it needs to be so eg when the sensors detect rear wheels slippage or when the g sensors detect that the rear is snapping out.
Even when the car is on 4wd mode, it is still complicated. Because the exact torque split between the rear and front is still determined by the system.
At any other time, the car is rwd.
Yep, like I said its not All Wheel Drive per say. It part time AWD, which is better than any other AWD system, because it lets you get more power to the ground than in a typical AWD system.
Even when the car is on 4wd mode, it is still complicated. Because the exact torque split between the rear and front is still determined by the system.
At any other time, the car is rwd.
Yep, like I said its not All Wheel Drive per say. It part time AWD, which is better than any other AWD system, because it lets you get more power to the ground than in a typical AWD system.
R33
04-19-2004, 02:41 AM
If I am not mistaken, the Porsche Turbo, and the mighty Murcielago has the same system now. Correct? If so, copycat! :evillol:
Moppie
04-19-2004, 02:48 AM
Any AWD system with open diffs devides the power up defferintialy, and can become one wheel drive, or two, or three wheel drive.
Any form of electronic control simply takes control of how that power is distrubted.
I hate to say it SkylineUSA but your only arguing symantics. Any vechile with the ablity to power 4 wheels is considered 4 wheel drive, and any vechile with the ablity to power all wheels, be it all at once, or selectivly is considered All Wheel Drive.
Any form of electronic control simply takes control of how that power is distrubted.
I hate to say it SkylineUSA but your only arguing symantics. Any vechile with the ablity to power 4 wheels is considered 4 wheel drive, and any vechile with the ablity to power all wheels, be it all at once, or selectivly is considered All Wheel Drive.
GTES-t
04-19-2004, 03:41 AM
He may be arguing symantics, but he's correct.
AWD: In an all-wheel drive system, power is distributed to all four of the vehicle's tires, all of the time. True torque can be directed to where it's required, etc. But some power is going to all four wheels.
4WD: In a four-wheel drive system, power is delivered to all four wheels, only when the driver requests it.* Some performance cars have full-time variable four-wheel drive and use a computer-controlled transfer case to route power between the wheels. In normal use, four-wheel drive vehicles operate on rear-wheel drive.
The 'full-time variable 4WD' is the system the Skyline uses, symantics or not.
AWD: In an all-wheel drive system, power is distributed to all four of the vehicle's tires, all of the time. True torque can be directed to where it's required, etc. But some power is going to all four wheels.
4WD: In a four-wheel drive system, power is delivered to all four wheels, only when the driver requests it.* Some performance cars have full-time variable four-wheel drive and use a computer-controlled transfer case to route power between the wheels. In normal use, four-wheel drive vehicles operate on rear-wheel drive.
The 'full-time variable 4WD' is the system the Skyline uses, symantics or not.
Moppie
04-19-2004, 04:01 AM
No, your still argueing symantics, which means wrong or right is simply a matter of interpration.
By Nissans own discription the GTR is AWD, so say its press releases. The same is true for other cars with similar systems.
Read this post: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1356127&postcount=12
part of this thread: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=156994&highlight=AWD
and know that I am your lord. :evillol:
By Nissans own discription the GTR is AWD, so say its press releases. The same is true for other cars with similar systems.
Read this post: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1356127&postcount=12
part of this thread: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=156994&highlight=AWD
and know that I am your lord. :evillol:
styln32
04-19-2004, 05:07 AM
I get wat ya mean now i was a bit sketchy on the technical side of things.
is there any major diff between the gts-4 and GTRs 4wd system.???
is there any major diff between the gts-4 and GTRs 4wd system.???
SkylineUSA
04-19-2004, 12:15 PM
No difference, well the gear ratios are different, but other than that, nope.
Symantics, maybe. My point was to show the guys that do not know, that the GTR's AWD is not there all the time. That is all.
Yes, its AWD at times :iceslolan and its rear wheel drive. Just trying to educate the younger generation, that's all. :smokin:
Symantics, maybe. My point was to show the guys that do not know, that the GTR's AWD is not there all the time. That is all.
Yes, its AWD at times :iceslolan and its rear wheel drive. Just trying to educate the younger generation, that's all. :smokin:
styln32
04-20-2004, 01:59 AM
cheers for that ppl more knowledge into the brain.
tazdev
04-21-2004, 08:42 PM
yes it can be classed as AWD but not in the sence that most people take AWD to mean and that is full time AWD.
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