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bone stock 04 comp g 1/4 times


titleist312
04-17-2004, 07:08 PM
Took my car to the track today for the first time its bone stock and the temp was 78f. my best time was 14.847@90.91 i was actually very happy plus im still hitting rev limiter once in a while and i also noticed the car wont let me do a waterbox burnout even with the traction control off(discouraged). also the headlight comes out in 10 seconds literally its just 1 tab to pull up on. again remember guys tommorow sun. is the gtp car club clash at tristateraceway in earlville iowa. if anyone has any questions please call me, sam stumpf @ 563 580 1154.

jeffs_GTP_sleeper
04-17-2004, 09:02 PM
That time looks like about average 14.5-15.1 FOR THE 04GP TRACK TIMES POSTED ON CLUB GP. Good job! :)
It really isn't very hard to get the headlight out is it? :grinno:

Ripn12s
04-17-2004, 09:14 PM
Sweet that you finally took it to the track.

wonder if you can pull a fuse like us 98-03 guys do to kill the traction control completly

GTPgirl
04-18-2004, 02:43 AM
...you can pull a fuse to kill the traction control? That's wild...didn't know you could do that.

kilroypr
04-18-2004, 07:15 AM
Sweet man, that is what it takes to move from mag racer to the enthusiast.

jeffs_GTP_sleeper
04-18-2004, 07:52 AM
Sweet man, that is what it takes to move from mag racer to the enthusiast.

What is you best track time?

kilroypr
04-18-2004, 08:07 AM
I do more circuit than 1/4 mile. Doing the 1/4 mile got too excited and busted my new engine using the perf shift button incorrectly and reving it to hard(past 6000 rpms for couple of secs) running with a stang(IMPORTANT, that day I was able to drive the car back home. After the hit ended The car had a heavy miss on 5 checked and looked like the piston or something hit the spark plug head and ungapped it. I regapped it and drove home without hesitation or anything except that the car was making the distinctive engine broken noise. When the engine was taken apart, the crankshaft and block were fine but the pistons 3 and 5 had the outer top lip broken above the ring and that was what hitted the spark plug and ungapped it. The debry were rambling on the cylinder luckyly I did not forced the car after the track so the valves and cyl walls got really no substantial damage). What I did that day before braking it was 13.75@107.15. Remember that I really suck from the dead start.

Ripn12s
04-18-2004, 10:02 AM
Scan tool runs should never be posted.

Take it to the track or say you dont have times.

kilroypr
04-18-2004, 10:15 AM
That was track time sir. That was when the piston cracked. The hp was scan tool reading. :)

Ripn12s
04-18-2004, 10:23 AM
I still call BS.

Sorry but trap speed of 107, dont think so.

kilroypr
04-18-2004, 10:25 AM
Well man BS it is. Thanks anyway, that is why the pistons broke remember?
I was beating the shit out of it and the pistons broke. Had a swell time, anyway the new engine just arrived and we are going to install it this week. Let me fix my cam to get pictures of the busted engine so you can see the chirped pistons

GTPCatz
04-18-2004, 05:49 PM
Our Transmissions will handle RPMS up to 6500 RPMS

GTPCatz
04-18-2004, 05:49 PM
I also agree on the 107 MPH
Can you post your timeslip?

Ripn12s
04-18-2004, 07:10 PM
GTPgirl,

Fuse 28 in the engine bay fuse box. This will totally disable traction control / magnasteer / ABS / and your AC

kilroypr
04-18-2004, 11:40 PM
Our Transmissions will handle RPMS up to 6500 RPMS
The tranny was not the issue, the engine had two pistons broken after the hit

GTPCatz
04-19-2004, 12:09 AM
you got that timeslip yet?

kilroypr
04-19-2004, 07:07 AM
I got it, but what is the point? Will happen as the VIN number and the final axle ratio, I post it everything is ok for a short while and then the next subject and start all this crap again. SO I will leave it like this, it will not change what will happen tomorow or the day after. Always something will be wrong and I will have to "proove" it. IT is not impossible, and even worst that I got the pistons all fu**ed up, for now to me is more important to get the damn thing running and get forged pistons(too da** expensive) for the core they said are leaving than keep prooving to you every bit I say.

kilroypr
04-19-2004, 08:13 AM
11:45 AM
21-Mar-04

M Rivera

Car # . . . 969
Class . . . N/A

DIAL . . . N/A
R/T . . . 0.945
60' . . . 2.143
330' . . . 5.817
1/8 . . . 8.883
MPH . . . 83.380
1000' . . . 11.537
1/4 . . . 13.750
MPH . . . 107.150

And the Da*n Engine broke that Sunday will send you guys the print out in a bit.

GTPCatz
04-19-2004, 11:22 AM
no i want to see the timeslip....not what it says

and we want proof because so far you have lied to us about almost everything

kilroypr
04-19-2004, 11:43 AM
For the record, the only lie I posted was the one the I BELIEVED IN THE FIRST PLACE. I WAS LIED AND MY MISTAKE WAS NOT TO DOUBLE CHECK IT, I TOOK IT FOR GRANTED BUT THAT WAS ALREADY FIXED.

About the TS, you'll get it. I will post the fu**ing TS, but, I do not have to proove anything to you. I f**ked you with the GM Database where a local GM Dealer printed what my GP has from it's VIN number, the 3.29 OEM Axle ratio and I will do with this.
If you want to keep getting it no problem, you will get it and I am more than looking forward to scan it or better picture it for you.

When I am wrong I accept it like on this post, I forgot about the speed sensor and you and Ripn12s were correct and for THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE I ACCEPT I WAS WRONG, I FORGOT ABOUT THE SPEED SENSOR.
THE PCM PROGRAMMING MUST MATCH THE FINAL AXLE GEAR RATIO TO MAKE THE
TRANNY SHIFT PROPERLY USING THE ENGINE RPMS AND SPEED SENSOR INPUT TO CONTROL IT.

About the old tranny gear ratio I will ask my father to show me how he counted the teeth. He is the one that knows most about this crap in this house and if what he counted was the final tranny gear instead of the diff gears then I will post it without any problems, I am not GOD, I do not know everything but as you said the RWD axle ratio is controlled at the axle not the tranny. I do not have a problem accepting that I make mistakes, but that I lied NO, the only one posted was the one I believed.

But for the TS crap that has nothing to do with what 240 wants to do in the first place with his cars I will post the TS so then 240 can keep doing his thing without "US" pointing his thread elsewhere.

GTPCatz
04-19-2004, 03:00 PM
we shall see....

BTW: your getting your threads mixed up...this isnt 240's thread...lol

gtgp97
04-19-2004, 06:35 PM
1/4 . . . 13.750
MPH . . . 107.150

haha yeah right...that trap speed is ridiculous....isnt that 60' a little slow also for this low of a time?

jeffs_GTP_sleeper
04-19-2004, 10:33 PM
11:45 AM
21-Mar-04

M Rivera

Car # . . . 969
Class . . . N/A

DIAL . . . N/A
R/T . . . 0.945
60' . . . 2.143
330' . . . 5.817
1/8 . . . 8.883
MPH . . . 83.380
1000' . . . 11.537
1/4 . . . 13.750
MPH . . . 107.150

And the Da*n Engine broke that Sunday will send you guys the print out in a bit.

I don't get it. I thought you were getting 7 second 0-60s with the LS1M?!?

GTPCatz
04-19-2004, 11:02 PM
according to that he is getting 0-60 in 4.7 sec

jeffs_GTP_sleeper
04-20-2004, 01:34 AM
according to that he is getting 0-60 in 4.7 sec

With a 13.7s 1/4 mile time? Or did you use the 107mph trap speed, which I thought would usually be indicative of a 12.7-13.1s 1/4 mile time. How did you figure his 0-60mph?

GTPCatz
04-20-2004, 12:13 PM
http://www.teamnabr.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8

jeffs_GTP_sleeper
04-20-2004, 03:50 PM
http://www.teamnabr.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8

Thanks, I just don't understand how he could get 7+ seconds on the LS1M and then a 4.6s 0-60 at the track.

kilroypr
04-21-2004, 03:12 AM
No camera, sloppy B/W scanner.

Made 3 runs that day, only found 2 TS. Still looking for third one.

This was the first morning run.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/114180Firstquarterrun-med.jpg

This was the last

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/114180MyBlownEngineTS-med.jpg

When made the tests with the LS1M tool was on an uneven surface, cool tires, crap.

Here I got someone telling me what to do and when.

GTPCatz
04-21-2004, 12:43 PM
I cant even read those....
I still call BS until you get some readable copies

GTPCatz
04-21-2004, 12:51 PM
So what I can read i think
you raced the same car in both time slips?

you start out at 14.590 @ 99.75 on the first time slip.....then you get 13.7 @ 107

how did you pick up 8 mph?

jeffs_GTP_sleeper
04-21-2004, 02:44 PM
So what I can read i think
you raced the same car in both time slips?

you start out at 14.590 @ 99.75 on the first time slip.....then you get 13.7 @ 107

how did you pick up 8 mph?

I read a 14.3 @ 102 and then a 13.7 @ 107. Different but it could happen the same day right?

GTPCatz
04-21-2004, 05:28 PM
your looking at the wrong car....that car your talking about is 745

he said he was in car 969.

jeffs_GTP_sleeper
04-22-2004, 12:49 AM
your looking at the wrong car....that car your talking about is 745 he said he was in car 969.

Oh, ok you are right.

kilroypr
04-22-2004, 08:43 AM
Well the first slip was my first time on the strip like that so the guy coaching me maybe was easy on me and the car, it was with the day to day setup except the GAS mix. The second run was better. I made a 100+ pass and I felt confident. That TS I am still not finding. At the third hit I changed the gas mix, more klots 115 than 93 and installed the 2.8" thrasher pulley. Car idled normally. During the hit after 1000' it felt funny, picked up really strong on the upper 4000+ rpm band and as soon as leaving the trap started the strong cliking sound. SES and hesitation. SES was a miss on 5. Took spark out and the gap was 0. Later I learned that pistons 3 and 5 had lost their border and the broken clicking sound was the debri inside the cyl. This debri did not messed the cyl but messed up the valves. I am working to get the car again on the road and add more stuff to make the 2.8" a valuable tool(not for destroying the engine) on the track.
And the images I have are far better than the ones posted but they are to big. The treshold for this site is 80k and mine are around 450k.
To be honest the strip does not cut it. All the hassle with the lights and how to get the car out of the starting line, heating the tires at the water box, wait 1+ hours to be on it just 20 seconds?
The circuit is more fun, twists & turns. Racing other people and even tought you got to wait 1+ hour to get on the track you spend from 20 to 30 mins on each run. And is harder to break the car at least my first time on the circuit nothing major broke, just spark plug cable 4 burned because of the broken exahust manifold.

jeffs_GTP_sleeper
04-22-2004, 12:23 PM
and installed the 2.8" thrasher pulley.
Later I learned that pistons 3 and 5 had lost their border and the broken clicking sound was the debri inside the cyl.

And is harder to break the car at least my first time on the circuit nothing major broke,
Well I bet it wouldn't have broke if you didn't use a pulley that small. What mods do you have again?

GTPCatz
04-22-2004, 06:11 PM
The only way you could run the 2.8 is if you have an intercooler

Ripn12s
04-22-2004, 06:38 PM
and installed the 2.8" thrasher pulley.

:22yikes: :nono: :banghead: :disappoin

kilroypr
04-25-2004, 11:19 AM
Well I bet it wouldn't have broke if you didn't use a pulley that small. What mods do you have again?


What I have are Champions 408CP(Same as Autolites 104 but with copper heads), OEM GAP, MSD 8.5mm spark plug cables, DHP V1.0 PCM(ECU), 2.93 axle, SLP Headers 3", 3.4" thrasher pulley(2.8" when the pistons broke), 180 degf tstat, Thrasher CAI, 9" K&N Cone Filter, TB Screen removed, that is about it.

Nothing major inside the tranny or engine originally cause they were under waranty. Now GM will leave the core and the engine just have pistons broken so I am planning to install Intense Rockers, Intense Diamond Coated Pistons, Stage 2 CAM, The intercooler that I designed and rectify the heads and install oversize valves. That is what I am thinking about the core they are leaving here.
And with that I will install the intense shifter kit on the tranny. Was thinking about a 2000rpm converter but that is an overkill. It is used just for drag is not practical.

SEXYCARKILLER
04-25-2004, 11:27 AM
JUST SHOOT IT !!!!!! :loser:

SEXYCARKILLER
04-25-2004, 11:27 AM
~Revenge is best served on a cold plate~

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