Veiws on Nitrous Oxide.

What do you guys think of it? Do you use it? Do you think it's cheating? Dangerous? What? What? What? Just spill your guts about it.


I was always totally against it until recently... when I bought my NA Z (go ahead and laugh...) I needed some more power so I decided I should get a NOS kit (...'cus when I get it I'm gonna kill your car!). I had originally planned on getting a TT engine swap until I found out how much it would cost me... $7,500-$10,000 including engine. So nitrous was the alternative...

What are your views?

i use to be against it cause i always heard of it blowing engines, but then i heard it was mainley the way peple install and use it, so i'm kinda iffy on it

If you think it's cheating, then you must think all other mods are cheating too. It's just another way to get power, and a damn good one as far as power/dollar goes.

I've been running it for 50,000 miles on an internally stock engine and everything is still wonderful.

I say GO FOR IT!!!

I agree it is another way of just getting power for the car. Most would say it isnot good for your motor but if it used properly it will not be bad to where it blows the engine!

I agree with ldelaysionl.It IS just another way of getting power.Most people dont like it though.I dont use it.In much easier and short words;

Its frowned upon

I agree with ldelaysionl.It IS just another way of getting power.Most people dont like it though.I dont use it.In much easier and short words;

Its frowned upon

Who frowns upon it? Many pro drag cars use it. Top respected tuners like Top Fuel and Veilside have put it on their cars. The only people I know who frown upon it are the people who are pissed cuz they spent 3 grand on a turbo kit and got beat by someone with a $500 nitrous kit.

all it is, is basically more oxygen shot into your intake *or into your injectors themselves...*

its how it breaks down with heat N2o

at 400 or so degrees, it breaks apart
N 20

the nitrogen goes out your exaust as the oxygen burns

fully safe

only do it if you want to own people :icon16:

Nitrous=cheating........I can't stand the people with their cheap ass integras who squeeze and think their car is faster than mine because their nitrous oxide injected piece beats my NA car for a 1/4 mile.....tell me, what happens when that bottle is empty? Also, it's easier to hide nitrous applications, which adds to the "cheating" image of it.

I too used to be against it before I knew a lot about cars. Now though im all for. Not the first thing "I" would do but not a bad first mod none the less. I dont think its cheating, powers power no matter how you get it. Now IMO I would give someone who did an engine swap or turbo kit more "respect" then someone who just did a N2O kit because it shows more skill as a tuner. Still though I wouldnt look down on the person who did the N2O kit instead.

i think it's "cheating" too. when you've, more or less, maxed out your cars potential and it's running 13's or 12's, so you get nitrous to up it to 11's or 10's then it's fine. but anything's gonna be significantly quick with a shot of nitrous on it. if one of your only mods is nitrous and you brag about how fast of a car you have, i think it's stupid. it's not like you can say wow, that car responds well to mods, anything's gonna boogie with a 100 shot.

i think it's "cheating" too. when you've, more or less, maxed out your cars potential and it's running 13's or 12's, so you get nitrous to up it to 11's or 10's then it's fine. but anything's gonna be significantly quick with a shot of nitrous on it. if one of your only mods is nitrous and you brag about how fast of a car you have, i think it's stupid. it's not like you can say wow, that car responds well to mods, anything's gonna boogie with a 100 shot.


now in this way I can agree, but, not so much cheeting, just being a 16yr old :disappoin

Nitrous is in no way cheating any more or less than any other type of mod.

As far as easy to hide the fact that you have spray? Not so. If you know what you're looking for anyway. It's awfully hard to hide that extra plate behind the MAF, those extra lines going to your injectors, or for you other "old school" guys out there, the large plate under the carb with the steel lines coming out.

Nitrous Oxide was first used in WWII aircraft to provide a boost to gain altitude quickly in a dogfight. It didn't take long for some aircraft mechanics to start hooking up homemade systems to their cars in the 50's and by the 60's, there were full-on kits. NO2 has been around ever since in auto racing and on the street.

As far as being dangerous to your motor. That depends on you. Here are the most common mistakes.

- Smacking a 250 shot to a stock motor = BOOM
- Incorrect installation resulting in a lean condition under spray = BOOM
- Revving the engine in neutral and hitting the button to show off to your friends = BOOM

So basically if you're not a complete idiot and follow your manufacturers specifications for that application, you'll be fine.

I don't think of it as cheating. It is always considered more admirable to run all motor though, and I don't think that that perception will ever change. It does damage one's engine, as any form of forced induction will. It all depends on how big a shot you use. The bigger, the less longevity your engine life will have.

Using nitrous is definetly not "cheating", this point has already been made, but if nitrous is cheating so is any other modification. There are a couple chipped VW's around here running low 14's and they love to talk smack about my honda. Now, i dont like when people talk smack, especially when they dont give my car any respect at all. It may not be the fastest in the world, but they act like it's a dx or something. If i were to get cams, springs, retainers, intake mani, and headers, it would cost me upwards of $1500 and i might be able to hang with/ beat these guys. Personally I'd rather spend 500 bucks on an N20 kit and definetly be able to take these guys... and have a grand still in my pocket. Just think of it this way, these vw guys spend 500 dollars and bring their 1/4 mile times down a full second, why shouldnt us N/A guys be able to do that too?

and about nitrous being safe, my cars got so many miles on it already im gonna need a rebuild soon anyways, so who gives a fuck

i like the idea but honestely i wouldnt ever use it. if i did have it and the funds to keep it full...where the he(( would you use it besides at teh track. in my opinion if you use nitrous on the streets, you deserve to get yoru car wrecked. its rediclious. but thats my only beef with nitrous. other than that its a great power adder to get that extra secone or 2 lower on your ET. also it would be one of the best things on my car. i know you say its easy to find ifa person has it if you know what your looking for. but honestely i think ive got a way to completely hide it and fool everyone (provided they dont start takin my body pannels off and finding the bottle and lines ^.^;;

frankly, this thread can go on for ever with peoples opinions about if nitrous is cheating or what not, as for my :2cents: dollar for dollar on hp nazzzzzzzzzzz could work wonders but as far as being compared to other mods its basically a cheap way out. For example a guy with a honda wants to run 13s, how would he rather run it, A. all motor set up B. turbo set up, or C. 200 shot of nazzzzzzzzzzz on stock motor, will leave that up for the people to decide. what set up do you think you would get more respect in running or running against?

Like I said before... I was totally against it back in the day. It has a bad image... the light was actually shined unto me twofold:

1). I learned that it's the only way my NA Z car will ever reach it's potential. Other than swapping in a TT engine for a hefty price, I can never reach 300HP with any other mod!

2). I am really into the whole JDM scene... what would everyone think if I rolled up in my Z32 with NOS? RICER! Fast&Furious! That used to run through my head... But then like someone mentioned earlier: I found out Veilside and TopSecret use nitrous in some of there shop cars and have done so for years! Even D1GP (proffesssional drift) competitors use it! I can't believe how narrowed minded I was....

or C. 200 shot of nazzzzzzzzzzz on stock motor, will leave that up for the people to decide. what set up do you think you would get more respect in running or running against?

I seriously doubt you can use 200hp shot on a stock motor! GENTLEMEN: This is a classic depiction of someone that doesn't know jack about nitrous... :screwy:

frankly, this thread can go on for ever with peoples opinions about if nitrous is cheating or what not, as for my :2cents: dollar for dollar on hp nazzzzzzzzzzz could work wonders but as far as being compared to other mods its basically a cheap way out. For example a guy with a honda wants to run 13s, how would he rather run it, A. all motor set up B. turbo set up, or C. 200 shot of nazzzzzzzzzzz on stock motor, will leave that up for the people to decide. what set up do you think you would get more respect in running or running against?

Cheap way out? All of you are incredibly misinformed. My old nitrous setup ran me nearly $3000 when it was all said and done. It's hardly the cheap way out if you are really serious about it.

What the H#ll? You can't put a 200 shot of N2o on a stock motor, especially a 4 cylinder (which honda kind of specializes in), the f**king thing would blow the cylinder head right through the hood, how's that for running 13's? Most stock 4 bangers would probably handle 60-70 shot boost with a dry system, 100+ on a wet system, and maybe 125+ on a direct port system.

To add some of my thoughts into this, nitrous actually gets more expensive when you get into more computer controlled stuff, like a multi-stage computer thing, or that window switch thing, and maybe a direct port system, plus if you want like over 100+ HP of boost on a four-banger, you have to upgrade your engine parts, advance/retard timing, maybe better fuel injectors.

IMO, I don't think nitrous is cheap at all, it actually depends how much you use it. I think the reason why super/turbos are expensive is because you waste extra gas on everyday driving.

209_Neon, If the honda would actually reach the finish on a 200 shot of nitrous with a stock motor, running 13s. I will kneel down and bow...

To add more stuff to my post, as you gain more BOOST, You are required to gain more TUNING SKILLS, because you must make the engine handle the boost properly and without any damage.

Nitrous is not cheating like every1 else has said it's just another way to get power out of your car. Nitrous is not for every1 and it's not my cup of tea but I'm thinking I might use it on my new car just for a change. I love guys with S/C that get beat by nitrous cars and say it's cheating LoL.

Also like Self said when you get serious about nitrous it's not that cheap. Starting adding things like nitrous&fuel guages, purge kits, bottle heaters, etc, not to mention the $40 charge everytime you fill the 10lb bottle it adds up quick.

Cheap way out? All of you are incredibly misinformed. My old nitrous setup ran me nearly $3000 when it was all said and done. It's hardly the cheap way out if you are really serious about it.

are you seriuos? 3grand for a nitrous setup :eek7: that sucks
everyone i know with it it ran them more like $800

frankly, this thread can go on for ever with peoples opinions about if nitrous is cheating or what not, as for my :2cents: dollar for dollar on hp nazzzzzzzzzzz could work wonders but as far as being compared to other mods its basically a cheap way out. For example a guy with a honda wants to run 13s, how would he rather run it, A. all motor set up B. turbo set up, or C. 200 shot of nazzzzzzzzzzz on stock motor, will leave that up for the people to decide. what set up do you think you would get more respect in running or running against?

So you're asking me who I would respect more:

A. The guy who spent thousands of dollars on a turbo kit and other mods to get his Civic into the 13's

B. The guy who spent even more to get his Civic into the 13's all motor

or C. The guy running the same times as them with a basic nitrous kit

I'll give more respect to C. He's keeping up with the other 2 on a fraction of the budget.

i believe 3000 bucks easily. i mean if you think about it a kit for a v-8 (ive seen this somewhere) where the nitrous is screwed directely into the intake manicold. that manifold musta cost alot i cant rememebr how much but the kit was about 2000 bucks. and as for respect to the above post. i would give most respect to B. he put most time and effort into his car to make it wat it is. its not that you can keep up with them but look at the journey taken to get 13's. the B person would know his car alot better than a guy who slaps a nitrous kit. but like i said. it not that you can keep up, it how well you care for your car and have a drive to win

oh, maybe v6's and 4 cylinders are a whole lot cheaper.

Not much horsepower though (60-100+ gain). A V-8 would be able to handle a bigger shot of nitrous, usually probably a 250+ shot of nitrous. V6's and I4's would need a hell of alot of tuning before it can take the same level of nitrous as the big v-8's (especially I-4's).

Not much horsepower though (60-100+ gain). A V-8 would be able to handle a bigger shot of nitrous, usually probably a 250+ shot of nitrous. V6's and I4's would need a hell of alot of tuning before it can take the same level of nitrous as the big v-8's (especially I-4's).


It's not the number of cylinders that makes it strong... it's what the internals are made out of.

If a V8's internals are of cast steel and aluminum... it'll break nearly the same amount of 'nitrous' stress as a motor that is smaller.

Forged Internals make for nitrous monsters.

oh, maybe v6's and 4 cylinders are a whole lot cheaper.

No, that's not the case. It costs so much because that's what it takes to be able to run a 200 - 250 shot consistantly and not have to worry about everything going to pieces.

thats probably why i hear so many stories about blown engine's then

thats probably why i hear so many stories about blown engine's then

haha, now THAT is probably true, lol.

It's not the number of cylinders that makes it strong... it's what the internals are made out of.

If a V8's internals are of cast steel and aluminum... it'll break nearly the same amount of 'nitrous' stress as a motor that is smaller.

Forged Internals make for nitrous monsters.
But isn't it easier on the engine because the stress is more "spread out"?

I seriously doubt you can use 200hp shot on a stock motor! GENTLEMEN: This is a classic depiction of someone that doesn't know jack about nitrous... :screwy:
Ok prince of nitrous, lets go back to english 101, "children have you heard of the word SARCASIM" good you could now sit down! :screwy: LOL did you really expect me to think that 200 shot of dry or wet could last on a stock B,D,F, or even H series blocks on a honda :eek7: .............................you really are a joke! but this time Im not laughing with you just at you!

Cheap way out? All of you are incredibly misinformed. My old nitrous setup ran me nearly $3000 when it was all said and done. It's hardly the cheap way out if you are really serious about it.

Just my :2cents: You got ripped off buddy. No way a nitrous kit can be worth $3000. Let me ask you this what kind of setup did you ask for?
:grinno: :loser:

[I found out Veilside and TopSecret use nitrous in some of there shop cars and have done so for years! Even D1GP (proffesssional drift) competitors use it! I can't believe how narrowed minded I was....[/QUOTE]




Some people set trends and some people follow them what do you do? :loser:

So you're asking me who I would respect more:

A. The guy who spent thousands of dollars on a turbo kit and other mods to get his Civic into the 13's

B. The guy who spent even more to get his Civic into the 13's all motor

or C. The guy running the same times as them with a basic nitrous kit

I'll give more respect to C. He's keeping up with the other 2 on a fraction of the budget.

Let me see. I would say this is insane! :screwy: How can you respect someone with a nitrous setup compared to an all motor setup. :disappoin Look the people doing all motor setups in a 1/4 have put more work and money into there cars thus making it more of a appreciated vehicle as well as respected in the drag scene. :mad:

I guess it is just your :2cents: so I will let this one go with just my :2cents: :biggrin:

It's not the number of cylinders that makes it strong... it's what the internals are made out of.

If a V8's internals are of cast steel and aluminum... it'll break nearly the same amount of 'nitrous' stress as a motor that is smaller.

Forged Internals make for nitrous monsters.

I agree but put it this way both motors can't handle the same amount of shot of nitrous! Which makes the v8 more prone to a higher shot of nitrous. :2cents:

Cheap way out? All of you are incredibly misinformed. My old nitrous setup ran me nearly $3000 when it was all said and done. It's hardly the cheap way out if you are really serious about it.



$3000 wow you got steal on that one, but you should have through in a few more grand and you could have ended up with a stage 10 nitrous kit. :spit: dude you cant be serious, please tell me your not. gezzzzzzzzzz for 3 grand that nitrous kit better have come with a 10second motor!lol

go for it!

Back to the original topic. Nitrous is cheating if it's against the rules of whatever organization you're running in. If your car is not racing competitively in an organized sanctioning body that specifically prohibits its use, then I see no problem with it.

I personally would never run nitrous because I don't go to the drag strip often enough where it would be worth the expense, and it's banned in virtually all forms of circuit racing as a legitimate safety hazard (running car into wall = nitrous system cracked + spark = not good).

As far as it being difficult to hide, there have been some NHRA teams where Nitrous is illegal, not too long ago that got lifetime bans for running nitrous, and they weren't found in tech inspection. There are sone VERY creative ways to hide the bottle, plumbing, and injection systems.

Nitrous Oxide was first used in WWII aircraft to provide a boost to gain altitude quickly in a dogfight. It didn't take long for some aircraft mechanics to start hooking up homemade systems to their cars in the 50's and by the 60's, there were full-on kits. NO2 has been around ever since in auto racing and on the street.

Hmmm I wonder. What is the state of water/water-methanol/water-alcohol systems for cars? Do any people use such a system? Can't say I've really heard of it...

And no... I don't see it as a cheat. An edge is an edge.

But I wouldn't use it.

Ok prince of nitrous, lets go back to english 101, "children have you heard of the word SARCASIM" good you could now sit down! :screwy: LOL did you really expect me to think that 200 shot of dry or wet could last on a stock B,D,F, or even H series blocks on a honda :eek7: .............................you really are a joke! but this time Im not laughing with you just at you!


DUDE! Don't try to turn this around! English 101? LoL! You didn't even spell SARCASM right.... and yes, I did expect someone of the likes of you to believe you can get 200HP-shot on a stock motor. You know nothing... :loser:

Just my :2cents: You got ripped off buddy. No way a nitrous kit can be worth $3000. Let me ask you this what kind of setup did you ask for?
:grinno: :loser:

Do any of these kids know jack? There are computer assisted nitrous systems! Your are ignorant! :iceslolan People like you make me sick! Why don't you research a lil' before you flap your jaws! Oh yeah... and you're the~> :loser:

hey man, werent you the one who said not to get so offensive! dude, its just the internet, this is where we can talk sh*t to anyone because we dont know them. everyone is just expressing their opinion. sure, a little harshly<sp> but still, its all fun man, relax.

anyway, to answer your question, nitrous is tricky. it all depends on what youre doin. for a daily driver, no more than 75 on 4cyl while i dont know jack shit about what a v8 can do but im guessing 125, on a daily driver that is, and i mean real daily. i mam more of an allmotor guy, because when you can compete against two types of forced induction, besides superchraging, and you come out on top, you get a little more respect that way. or if you lose, but stayed close, people still think, "wow his sh*t was allmotor!" :2cents:

I personally dont think it is cheating...some people might think that doing engine swaps is "cheating" cuz it wasnt built for your car or whatever. Point is that some love cars and love working on them, hence the fine tuner, some love to make their cars quick for cheap...how does that saying go...u can only have 2 of the 3:
cheap
reliable
fast
And N2O is a cheap and quick but no the most reliable system, plus i doubt very much that people who just street race would like to have Nawz in their car...as far as i'm concerned, I dont go to any strips so having N2O in ma car is a big waste, specially when most of my races are on the streets at a light, hit that switch and i dont think i have big enough brakes to stop ma ss from flying through the next light...

[I found out Veilside and TopSecret use nitrous in some of there shop cars and have done so for years! Even D1GP (proffesssional drift) competitors use it! I can't believe how narrowed minded I was....




Some people set trends and some people follow them what do you do? :loser:




Oh and I suppose your the almighty of street-racing NEON's? Can I have your autograph?

HEY! could some of you moderaters end this thread or shut them up

DUDE! Don't try to turn this around! English 101? LoL! You didn't even spell SARCASM right.... and yes, I did expect someone of the likes of you to believe you can get 200HP-shot on a stock motor. You know nothing... :loser:
wow great eye, you should be the moderator of spelling because as far as purchasing a N/A z, and then adding nazzzzzz sure does makes you a guru in the racing world doesnt it. :screwy:

that one i have to laugh at

Some people set trends and some people follow them what do you do? :loser:


Oh and I suppose your the almighty of street-racing NEON's? Can I have your autograph?[/QUOTE]

And I am so honored to meet to drift/drag/nazzzz prince! I think I need you autograph.

jesus christ

this thread is D E A D :thefinger

You need to grow up, guy and let the big boys talk... we are having a discussion about NITROUS as you may have noticed until you made unintelligent comments... you're gonna get this THREAD locked!

So you're asking me who I would respect more:

A. The guy who spent thousands of dollars on a turbo kit and other mods to get his Civic into the 13's

B. The guy who spent even more to get his Civic into the 13's all motor

or C. The guy running the same times as them with a basic nitrous kit

I'll give more respect to C. He's keeping up with the other 2 on a fraction of the budget.
well what if guy c did all the shit guy "A" or "B" did, then put nitrous on. he'd be running circles around both of them.

i could strap a rocket on my car and propel down the track in 6 seconds. it doesn't have any reflection on my ability as a tuner or driver and it doesn't speak anything about the car's potential. i'm not anti nitrous. i'm anti 13 second geo storms and dx civics( and other cars of the like) who think they're the shit cuz they stuck a bottle of nitrous in the trunk.

dude, you guys are talking about eachother in every thread youre in. im not pointing, but i know im not the only one who noticed. but youre right, this was about nitrous so lets keep it at that

well what if guy c did all the shit guy "A" or "B" did, then put nitrous on. he'd be running circles around both of them.

i could strap a rocket on my car and propel down the track in 6 seconds. it doesn't have any reflection on my ability as a tuner or driver and it doesn't speak anything about the car's potential. i'm not anti nitrous. i'm anti 13 second geo storms and dx civics( and other cars of the like) who think they're the shit cuz they stuck a bottle of nitrous in the trunk.


youre very right, but some guys do this because theyre the underdoggs, and just trying to make something out of nothing...dont you agree?

Do any of these kids know jack? There are computer assisted nitrous systems! Your are ignorant! :iceslolan People like you make me sick! Why don't you research a lil' before you flap your jaws! Oh yeah... and you're the~> :loser:

So let me see I am a :loser: because I called you a :loser:

I suppose this is one of those things that little kids do. In other words I think you are the kid in this thread. Why would someone with the right mind come on this post and type up some child like remarks. You my friend need to grow up if you think you are the grown up here please don't make comments like Do any of these kids know jack?

Also who are you to call me ignorant just by my one post. I think that you are being ignorant for judging me by a post and not knowing me at all. Please!

One more thing I am not flapping my jaws here to post. You maybe the one to be talking to the monitor while you are posting on this forum. What I am trying to get at is keep the saying true. We here sir are not flapping we are typing and thinking of what to post on here. :nono: Again WE ARE NOT FLAPPING. :lol2:

Let me ask you this I think you have been watching to much of The Fast and The Furious. That is why you made this remark Do any of these kids know jack? There are computer assisted nitrous systems! Your are ignorant!
Of course I know there are computer based nitrous systems. These kits are made to monitor you fuel management thus keeping you from not getting enough fuel and blowing you motor. Also they do not run nearly $3000. :cwm27:

Please stop typing up non sense because you are straining my eyes! :eek7:

yeah, my friend had a ls integra that he wanted to kill the engine to make way for a swap so he put nitrous on it. we drove around and squeezed the juice as often a possible. but our intent wasn't to have some bad-ass nitrous injected integra, we were just clowinin around. we finally cracked his intake manifold and that was the end of that. it was a blast. it was a stock b18 and lasted all of 3 hours on a 100 shot setup. unfortunatley i wasn't there for the whole nitrous hook up so i missed out on a good learning experience but i got to reap the benefits.

i agree with you to a point. if you do it for the sheer exhileration that nitrous provides, cool, then you got the right idea, but if you do it for braggin rights, or to put other people's and their cars down, i think it's lame.

He said the whole KIT cost 3K! Damn, just drop this sh#t already