A rant about riced up posers

Ok so I bought my 91 hatch about 2 months ago. It looked ok, was lowered, has an annoying muffler, and had a couple of other little things like tinted windows and sport pedals. A nice start I figured, since I wouldn't have to spring for the coilovers and whatnot. So yesterday I wind up rolling over this big ass piece of asphalt that comes rollin into the street (and if i find the kids that did it they are paste) and I slam over it. Not bump, not grind, SLAM. My car jolts twice and then I hear the muffler rattle. Just as a precautionary measure I take it down to midas where a buddy of mine is the manager. we toss it up on the lift to make sure I didn't fuck anything over. Aside from a couple scuffs on the fuel tank and a slight dent in the muffler everything looked ok. Then we get to the FUN part:

My muffler is just that, a plain old fucking muffler. The annoying sound is because the asshat put a resonator tip on it, nothing more. Factory piping and everything.

The car DOES NOT have a lowering kit in it, they chopped the springs and redrilled the holes! As a result of this not only do I need to get some new springs (who knows how bad they might have fucked this up) but the wheels are spaced out a little from the body, and if I turn the wheel too far the tires will rub the fender.

So basically I now have a factory civic with a resonator tip, tinted windows, and knock off "racing" pedals.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH FUCKING POSERS!!! JUST SAY NO TO RICE!!!

that sux man, and didn't they also put neuspeed stickers all over it? better take those stickers off.

Oh yeah, the neuspeed and ractive stickers are commin off saturday afternoon.

its all good .. what was the age of the kid you got it from .. 15

try 26

haha, yah... i cant believe somebody would do that shit to their car, but hey i guess if they cant afford new stuff :-/

Shit dude that sux about your car. I hate when people don't do things the right way cuz on the springs issue thats not even safe. Something could happen with that and cause him to get in an accident with someone else.

Thats part of the reason why i will never buy a pre-modified car. The other part is that want to have something suited to my tastes

Definitely sucks about all that mickey mouse shit done to your car.. Should've checked it out before you bought it, but im not going to lecture you cause no one likes that shit. when I was new to the game, (I had a jetta at the time) I cut the springs and it was slammed to the ground. it looked sick but rode like ass, and the springs would jump out of place every now and then and "bang back into place". I literally had no front suspension; had about half an inch of it. I rode through the parking lot of the speed shop on my way to buy real springs (yeah i put 2 & 2 together) and hit a speed bump that i wasnt aware of--the front end jolted so hard my head almost busted through the sunroof. I had a headache after...go figure. My jetta wasnt ricey though (no stickers,huge spoilers, etc...,) Moral of the story--do it right the first time and dont be cheap(and learn from your mistakes.)

If kids want to rice up their cars, they need to stay to the cars true form. This is something I've told my friends and classmates and it's actually my moto: "Always get something that serves a purpose!" Cleartails and resonater tips serve no purpose except that you know nothing about cars!

If kids want to rice up their cars, they need to stay to the cars true form. This is something I've told my friends and classmates and it's actually my moto: "Always get something that serves a purpose!" Cleartails and resonater tips serve no purpose except that you know nothing about cars!
Wait hold on, usually rice means puttin gaudy graphics, wings, fucked up chrome wheels, cuttin your springs, stickin a tip on your exhaust, shit like that, I think you should replace RICE with MOD, theres nothing wrong with moddin your car, and I agree, you should mod it with taste. But I doubt that keepin your car clean, and "true to its form" would be called rice. I'm not startin a fight or anything, I'm just sayin...does that make sense?

im not trying to be an asshole, but why didnt you look at it before you bought it? or ask him what kinda stuff was done to it? like muffler and springs.

wasnt the ride way shitty with cut springs??

i agree completely about doing stuipd shit like that. sorry you got fucked over man.

im not trying to be an asshole, but why didnt you look at it before you bought it? or ask him what kinda stuff was done to it? like muffler and springs.

wasnt the ride way shitty with cut springs??

i agree completely about doing stuipd shit like that. sorry you got fucked over man.

I didn't know as much about modding cars then (not like I know that much more now) so I didn't know what to ask. He said it had coilovers and a high flow muffler, so I think he was either lying out his ass, or didn't know what the prior owner did.

couldn't tell much on the ride, the roads near where I drove it are actually pretty good, so there wasn't much to base it off of, next time I buy a car, it's potholes and speedbumps.

the previous owner did this to jer's poor si:
http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Staff/LadynredSi/jer/jer_006.jpg

:uhoh: :banghead:

he doesn't mind as much now that his b16 is in. i suppose the good part is it's red and not yellow :evillol:

Man, you guys are gonna think im a ricer when you see my car....It's only half done, but its not like bright pink or anything, just silver and white....But with the way you guys are talkin about painted interiors... :rolleyes:

i doubt it. it's not IF the interior is painted...it's HOW. his interior was painted ghetto style. lets put it this way...the previous owner used the SAME CAN of spray for the interior, valve cover, and the rims. because it is (who knows what kind) crappy paint it is flaking off the panels. it looks fine and dandy in pics, in person it looks like @ss crack.

now on the other hand...there are people like ci5ic who take time & pride in their work.
http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/members%20rides/members%20pics/image005.jpg

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/members%20rides/members%20pics/image011.jpg

sorry i don't have any better pics...but you get the point. he did an excellent job

See for me when it comes to the interior i'm an all or nothin kind of guy. I'm cool with different parts having different colors (seats different from dash) but having different insets like vent housing, speaker panels etc different from the rest just doesn't do it for me. Though Ci5ic did do a nice job, i've looked at the rest of his pics, his custom fiberglass work is quite nice.

Without ricers there'd be no cars to make fun of. I say if it makes you happy to put pedals/huge spoilers/stickers/fart pipes/paint your dash bright yellow/ then do what you want and fuck what other people think. But that's just me.

So whats the judges ruling on this....

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/428000-428999/428493_13_full.jpg

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/428000-428999/428493_10_full.jpg

I'M BLIND!!!

:grinno: j/k, looks fine and dandy to me

Man, you guys are gonna think im a ricer when you see my car....It's only half done, but its not like bright pink or anything, just silver and white....But with the way you guys are talkin about painted interiors... :rolleyes:

Hey now... my girl told me, if I manage to talk her into getting a civic, that she wants her painted bright pink, with a full body kit.
And of course, I told her that's fine, as long as I get to do the engine work and pick out the engine for her. (probably B16A).

Hey now... my girl told me, if I manage to talk her into getting a civic, that she wants her painted bright pink, with a full body kit.
And of course, I told her that's fine, as long as I get to do the engine work and pick out the engine for her. (probably B16A).
Bahh i gave up trying to influence my ex's car decisions....she ended up getting a fucking hyundai accent (by choice!) she said it was "cute" :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

lol that sucks. i talked my girl into getting a civic instead of getting an eclipse :P

Shit it would have been better if she had gotten a fuckin tiburon, but an accent?? i still dont understand what it is about (most) females and cars :uhoh:

She deserves a pimp slap.

Bahh i gave up trying to influence my ex's car decisions....she ended up getting a fucking hyundai accent (by choice!) she said it was "cute" :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

She WANTS an eclipse... and although I think an eclipse is a pretty car.... it's not a Honda. It's not a Civic.... it's a friggin' chrysler.

I'm thinking after I finish off my Civic, that'll be the thing that will push her over to liking Civic's more :)

There you go, thats whe way to do it

my girlfriend wants a del sol. now if only i could find someone selling one cheap enough...

my girlfriend wants a del sol. now if only i could find someone selling one cheap enough...

Yeah ive been looking into del sols too but the cheapest is like 4K. And thats way too much for me....

Yeah my rule of thumb is when searching for a car teh more mods or "rice" it has the harder its been driven.

WOW that leaves my car really driven hard.
-um nevermind, but you get my point-

She WANTS an eclipse... and although I think an eclipse is a pretty car.... it's not a Honda. It's not a Civic.... it's a friggin' chrysler.


I thought I'd correct you about the Eclipse; I assume you are refering to the motor. As we all know, DSM = Diamond Star Motors, a colaboration between Mitsubishi and Chrysler. Now, the RS GS, etc Eclipses (the non-turbo ones, as well non- turbo'd Talons and Lasers) have a chrysler motor, a Neon Motor to be exact. I agree with you here...these cars are a chrylser under the hood, no matter what the badge says. I wouldn't waste my time getting one. They are just a pretty Neon. However, the Turbo'd Esclipses (and the other turbo'd DSM's) have a 4G63 motor. We better recognize this Mitsubishi motor as the samer one in the Lancer Evos. I wouldn't call all Esclipses a Chrylser, only the N/A ones. The 4G63 motor in the GS-T and GSX is far from Chrylser, it's one heck of a motor. The only Eclipse route I'd go is GS-T or GSX.

:werd: the 4g63 is a stout motor and has been great except for in the 2g's which some tend to get crankwalk.

Yeah ive been looking into del sols too but the cheapest is like 4K. And thats way too much for me....

Yeah my rule of thumb is when searching for a car teh more mods or "rice" it has the harder its been driven.

WOW that leaves my car really driven hard.
-um nevermind, but you get my point-

Mod doesn't = rice. lots of stickers - mods = rice

There may be a fix for crank walk, right now there is only a patch, replace the thrust bearing every other oil change.

-Dustin

I like a car to look bone-stock..except for aluminum rims and other fancy equipment offered on the nicer models by the same manufacturer.
Why? I can't stand talking to police...and judges...and attorneys.
Except for the way I drive, I try not to attract attention. No loud stereo. No stickers, not even bumper stickers.
I don't like anything that'll stick in the mind of a witness if I ever have to make a run for it.
And if that ever happens, I want a reliable car to get me where I need to go.
Flunky

:werd: the 4g63 is a stout motor and has been great except for in the 2g's which some tend to get crankwalk.

I've heard a lot of horror storys about the 97 and 98 year model engines... haven't researched it or anything, but I heard something about a '7 bolt motor' being defective, and people usually having to swap in a japanese '6 bolt motor' to fix and avoid the problem.... not sure exactly what that means cause I haven't researched it any, but that's what I get word of mouth.

But if the cost of FINDING the car for less than a 'fast and the furious' price and the cost of changing out defective motors is so high... I don't see any reason to get my girl an eclipse.... I'd rather get her something like a Del Sol... something I know I can fix fairly easy IF it breaks. I don't even care about the amount of 'rice' on it, as I'm sure I'd be doing an assload of work to it anyways in order to keep her eyes on it and stop her dreaming about an eclipse. :lol:

Yeop. Some 7 bolt 4g63's never have crankwalk but then again others do. Its just kind of a wait and see situiation. The 6 bolt 4g63's never had a problem with crankwalk and that is why many people put 6 bolts in their 2g eclipse.

I'm going to have to research this 6 bolt, 7 bolt thing now.

I've known some people who have waited for their 7 bolt to get crankwalk and if it doesnt, great...but if it does they are kinda prepared and swap in a 6 bolt.

I'm assuming you all know what crank walk is...

1st gen 7-bolts do not have the problem, only 2nd gen. So far the best guess as to the problem is sticky piston oil squirters. the 2nd gens changed to that the oil sqirters are run off the main bearings instead of the main oil galley. At idle wth the clutch in the thrust bearing sees the highest load and lowest oil pressure. With the oil squirter stuck open, it may starve. There are two fixes for this, one is to modify the block to accept 6-bolt style squirters wich are bolted in (instead of pressed) and run off the main galley, the other is to remove the squirters (which many 6-bolt owners do anyway, for safety).

Plugging the squirters is an easy job, any machine shop could do it during a rebuild easy.

I'm assuming you all know what crank walk is...

1st gen 7-bolts do not have the problem, only 2nd gen. So far the best guess as to the problem is sticky piston oil squirters. the 2nd gens changed to that the oil sqirters are run off the main bearings instead of the main oil galley. At idle wth the clutch in the thrust bearing sees the highest load and lowest oil pressure. With the oil squirter stuck open, it may starve. There are two fixes for this, one is to modify the block to accept 6-bolt style squirters wich are bolted in (instead of pressed) and run off the main galley, the other is to remove the squirters (which many 6-bolt owners do anyway, for safety).

Plugging the squirters is an easy job, any machine shop could do it during a rebuild easy.

dsm's make me proud to have a honda. :icon16:

i try to buy a completely stock car and do all the mods yourself, but i expect its hard over the states as 4th gens are modded a lot more than here in the UK

Mod doesn't = rice. lots of stickers - mods = rice

i did your equation and i came up with 4 :confused: i guess i should have paid attention in math class :icon16:

i did your equation and i came up with 4 :confused: i guess i should have paid attention in math class :icon16:

Don't worry, when I took my college math and english assesment tests, they said I read at >college level, however my structure is terrible, and I need to take pre-algebra. I finished algebra 1&2, but that was a decade ago rofl.

Shit math is like my only good subject, I hate the others. But then again I'm still in high school, lol.

i did your equation and i came up with 4 :confused: i guess i should have paid attention in math class :icon16:

That's funny... {I got 1320 - the square root of 'The Fast and the Furious'} when I did the equation

Math is my best subject too... on my college entry tests I scored 50points ABOVE College graduate level. And I usually only make A's unless I forgot to do my homework or something :rolleyes: ... And A's in english classes... however I get B's in history and science classes :uhoh: .. go figure.

I got D's in everything, but a 33 on my ACT

work ethic > me

Yeah I never said I got good grades, just that math is my best subject, lol.

Yeah I never said I got good grades, just that math is my best subject, lol.

Yay Math!
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Yay Math!
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Somehow I think that kid needs to get out more, LOL :lol:

Just maaaaaaaaaaaybe.

Just maaaaaaaaaaaybe.

That or he needs to chill out on the caffeine.

Shit maybe a lil bit of both.

HaHa...Those guys and their Rice. Funny Shit. Sorry about your car man.