3000gt SL vs Ford Probe GT

who do you guys think would win between these two cars? 93 Probe Gt slightly modded and a 97 3kgt SL stock.

unless the probe has the jdm engine i would definately say the 3k

gimme a break, a probe gt has like the same engine as my moms sport contour, 3kgt should swallow it.

come on people please answer my question? out of all of you only 2 decided to be nice enough to answer it. where are the 3000gt fans???????

Lol listen dude the Probe GT would eat the 3000GT alive, Idc what yall say it will. Slightly modded meaning CAI and exhaust Im guessing right? the Probe is lighter and also has a better engine in my opinion JDM or the 165hp Domestic one. Oh and by the way a Probe GT stock could stick with my V6 Camaro and a SL and a 98+ V6 Camaro run basically the same. well when ever I raced one it was even. But yeah Ide put my money on the Probe heh a probe is labled a ford but its a mazda inside. People have the wrong conception of a probe since its a ford. It will out handle a SL and out Run it.

i'm not much of a probe fan, but it does have a greater advantage over the GT because of it's weight, it's size will give it it's handleing ability, so it's a bit of a challenge...

so you guys are saying that a 165 hp probe can beat the SL?

OH MY GOD, you guys are purely ignorant of speed

a probe gt is not as fast as an eclipse gst it can not run the 1/4 mile in 15.2 it does not have 222hp and it will not beat a 3kgt sl wich has 222hp against your weak 165hp. and v6 maro's and stangs are slow as all hell!! my friend has a slightly modded v6 stang and he would still have a hard time ruinning with a sl. it is a honda killer but thats about were it stops.

I'd go with the SL. I don't know if you guys bothered to actually compare times on the 1/4, but I just did. Now ordinarily I would say go out and race the damn thing, but just to let Zanark know what an SL does, here's what I came up with.
I found a page of time slips posted by a guy with a Probe Gt with intake and exhaust...later Nitrous. But as you can see:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5335/slips.htm
he ran 15.4-16.3 over 11 different runs with GReddy exhaust and different intakes. With nitrous he got into the 14s. The SL runs low 15s-high 14s stock....quite a few members in this forum will attest to that, Nesryn being one of them. So you tell me who is eating who alive?

and the damn probe has the same exact engine as my moms contour only my moms contour has 170hp v6 24 valve and all, i barely and i mean basrely beat a eclpise gs there is no way in hell that probe will outrun a sl with just exhaust and a cone wich gives it no more than 10hp, WOW now i could beat the gs by 3/4's of a car length.

175hp :grinno:

lol then those #"s are damn wrong and a Probe GT will kill a V6 Mustang. 3000GT SL's are fucking SLOW idc what yall say I used to race em all the time with my V6 Camaro. There heavy as all fuck and honestly I kno w a Probe GT would kill it Ive seen it done course the SL was an Automatic but nonetheless. And how the hell can a Stock SL get into the high 14's stock with only 222hp o_O? Any way lol its just my opinion hell Idk who would really win honestly Idc this is all in good fun convo. Im only talking from my experience with 3000GT's which were slow as hell. Lol besides one time this Vr4 with that auto wing shit pulled up besides me, good god that ate my ass alive. An old pimp looking dude was driving that shit to. Mother fucker looked like an old mississippi pimp.

222hp gets it into high 14s with good traction, a good driver, pretty good gearing and aerodynamics....And the most important...TORQUE, 205ft/lbs of it. Hp and weight aren't everything...if they were...there would be no need to race, we could just all break out our calculators and figure whose car is dominant in alot safer a way...the point is that the SL has been proven to run that stock. The probe isn't capable of it.
I'm with youngvr4 on this one...V6 mustangs and v6 camaros are slow...their missin 2 cylinders...

I'm with youngvr4 on this one...V6 mustangs and v6 camaros are slow...their missin 2 cylinders...

lol :iceslolan

The Probe is should have the word 'anal' in front of it because thats all its worth. The Anal Probe is a slow, underpowered car that can barely pass out of creeper mode. The SL will out pace, out run and totally out class it in every aspect.

The idea that a Probe can destroy a V6 Mustang is like saying a heaping pile of swage can overtake a fresh pile of menure. - its not saying much.

does nobody notice that i was the 3000/stealth national gathering second place fwd trophy winner thats against blown and bottled beasts and i have neither, i have expertise racing the and theres no way there gonna take us out unless as i said before they have the jdm engine which is pretty out there as well considering a 3000 with the same money will annihilate it, just my $.02

Wtf... leave for a while, come back and what the hell is going on. A Probe GT beating an SL? Lmfao... Man those things are all over the place and I race em all the time and never got beat by one. And Zanark, the SL will get into the 14's. Mine stock runs 14.9. Lmfao... nicely put Yogs :)

lol god damn ive learned something. And Im highly impressed by those #'s on a stock SL, hell I thought the only 3s worth buying was the Vr4 guess I was mistaken. Still gotta admit the Probe was the best FWD ford ever made! Even though it was made by mazda lol. any ways any of you ever seen a Convertible VR4 in person? I bet that woudl be interesting imagine all the females taht would flock and all the supras youde just rape with the right mods. Ah to be rich.

http://www.3snationalgathering.com/03drags.htm the first place guy for the turbo quick 8 had a gorgeous vr-4 spyder i think he ran like an 11.1 not absolutely sure though

lol god damn ive learned something. And Im highly impressed by those #'s on a stock SL, hell I thought the only 3s worth buying was the Vr4 guess I was mistaken. Still gotta admit the Probe was the best FWD ford ever made! Even though it was made by mazda lol. any ways any of you ever seen a Convertible VR4 in person? I bet that woudl be interesting imagine all the females taht would flock and all the supras youde just rape with the right mods. Ah to be rich.

doesnt yogs have a spyder? yeah yogs has a convertible vr4.

lol well yogs is a lucky son of a bitch. Or he just works really hard for what he has either way thats cool

Yeah - I have a VR4 Spyder :iceslolan


Its out of storage now and in need of a nice polishing.

ive seen 2 Spyder VR4's around my house. Very nice indeed

you sure are lucky ive never seen one here in my town.

there's one for sale up here 97 i believe, 25 grand

Yeah - I have a VR4 Spyder :iceslolan


Its out of storage now and in need of a nice polishing.


Do they spyder's have the 18 crome like the normal VR4's or are they dirffrent rims?

there's one for sale up here 97 i believe, 25 grand

Couldn't be a 97 - they made them in 95 and 96. They look virtually the same though. :smile:


Do they spyder's have the 18 crome like the normal VR4's or are they dirffrent rims?

They came with the 5 spoke chrome rims (which was the same as my 94 VR4) The six spoke chrome 18s were an option which were the same rims that the coup VR4s used.

I have one thing to say. The SL in 3000 GT SL, stands for SLOW. That race would come down to driving ability. The sad part about the SL is that it makes roughly 60 more HP than the Probe, but only runs about .5-.6 tenths faster in the quarter mile. And thats in optimal conditions. In my opinion the only 3000GT is a VR4 AWD. Now that is a performer, not a throw back base model.

I think it has already been decided which of the two is faster, but just to put this to rest. I have owned a 1996 Probe GT with cat-back exhaust and intake (that's all it had, nothing else). I just recently bought a 1992 Base 3000GT with no mods. Without a doubt the 3000GT is the better performer and much quicker both 0-60 and 1/4 mile. As for the last post, is .5-.6 seconds anything to laugh at? That's a big difference on the track here in AZ. Maybe the horsepower to track time gain there doesn't look great, but with the weight difference I say it's awesome.
As it was said before, just my $.02

A probe gt wanted to race me (3kgt base) so I did. I whooped him twice. both times going from about 10-20mph to about 90.

I have one thing to say. The SL in 3000 GT SL, stands for SLOW. That race would come down to driving ability. The sad part about the SL is that it makes roughly 60 more HP than the Probe, but only runs about .5-.6 tenths faster in the quarter mile. And thats in optimal conditions. In my opinion the only 3000GT is a VR4 AWD. Now that is a performer, not a throw back base model.

first of all the sl is NOT the base model...it goes base, sl, then vr4..so its not jus some "throw back base model". also .5 - .6 tenths of a second is a pretty good difference and the point is..its still quicker :)

I have one thing to say. The SL in 3000 GT SL, stands for SLOW. That race would come down to driving ability. The sad part about the SL is that it makes roughly 60 more HP than the Probe, but only runs about .5-.6 tenths faster in the quarter mile. And thats in optimal conditions. In my opinion the only 3000GT is a VR4 AWD. Now that is a performer, not a throw back base model.

.5 - .6 IS a lot of difference.

While the SL is not going to dance with the big boys, its often underestimated.

.5 - .6 IS a lot of difference.

While the SL is not going to dance with the big boys, its often underestimated.

This guy does realize that 5/10th's of a second is a HALF A SECOND DIFFERENCE, and 6/10th's of a second is OVER HALF A SECOND DIFFERENCE.....hmmm, all be it that the SL is heavy, and the probe is light, they SL still has a better weight to horsepower ratio than the probe, but just barely. But, obviously enough to beat the probe by over half a second in a 1/4 mile drag, which BTW is an eternity and several car lengths....

Yeah and a Ferrari Enzo beats my Honda by ONLY 6 seconds...

Ok...the day after i got my 95 3000GT Base my sister saw a 97 Probe GT and she is looking for a car...so...we talked to the guy for a little and he let us drive it. My sister got to drive first then my dad...then me. That thing had something compard to my car. My dad even said that. I have driven one...its ok and it has some power...but nothing like a 3000GT.

Now as far a weight...i would take a heavier car befor a lightier some for all around use. The heavier car will stick to the ground better then a lightier car...just my $.02.

Yeah and a Ferrari Enzo beats my Honda by ONLY 6 seconds...

:cwm27: Lol! Nicely put. But anyways, this is ridiculous. Stock for stock no Probe has anything over any SL. 1/4 mile times prove that, as does personal experience. So what's left to argue?

nothing

nothing

agreed