94 z28 Camaro Rear end problems

I have a 94 z28 Camaro and at the begining of august last year my spider gears broke, and i have a new carrier and gears put in. I had a richmond 4:10 ring and pinion gear put in, and im not sure what kind of carrier unit. 4 months later a tooth broke off the ring gear, but the gears were sopose to hold up to 450 hp, and i am only pushing 285. The shop ordered some other gears that were sopose to be stronger, but friday i was coming home from a trip and my rear end started whinning. i got it up on a lift at a friends house and found oil on the bottom of the rear end housing. the very back ring on the yoke going into the rear end was away from the housing about 1/8 of an inch. What i am wanting to know is, "Will the stock rear end not support a 4:10 ratio without a spacer?", "Would a Trans am rear end support 4:10 gears?", "would the carrier unit make a difference", "why would the bearings and seals be burning out so easily?" Anyone who can help will be appriciated. thanks

I think it is supposed to be a third series carrier.

maybe its time to take your car to a different shop

Ok thanks for the help. if any one else has any suggestions then please let me know.

yeah, sounds to me like crappy workmanship, if a rear end is set up properly than you shouldnt be having these problems, for the pinion to actually come out from the housing the bolt holding it in place would have to come loose, or not been proporly torqued to begin with, inproper contact pattern and backlash settings would create all the problems your talking about. the stock rear end should handle 4.10 gears and 285hp just fine. take it to someone who knows what they are doing.

NO. if you go to 4.10 you need to get special spacers/paddels and a few otehr things to help keep the 4.10 in thier. www.slponline.com has the parts you need

OR i could be wrong and you should do what phantom sez ;)

OR i could be wrong and you should do what phantom sez ;)
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dunno specifics, but i do know ive seen fourth gen camaros running 4.10 gears with no problems. rear end looked stock to me. thats what i was basin mine on. never heard about these spacers and dohickeys.

yeah the 4.10 will work on stock rear ends just the mods are inside. so you put those spacers on and it will look stock from the outside ^.^

man IROC you've been off your game lately. im a little worried, you feelin ok...

lol, so there is a noticeable difference huh? in all seriousness, i just switched meds for my ADHD, so i am a bit loopy till my body adjusts.

haha i use to take ritalin or however the fuck you spell it

thats what im off of, it wasnt strong enough, im on a higher dosage of concerta now.

what gear did you car come stock with? If it was the 2.73 or 3.08 then you'd need a spacer. But if it was stock 3.23 or 3.42 then 4.10 will fit with out a spacer..I think.

what gear did you car come stock with? If it was the 2.73 or 3.08 then you'd need a spacer. But if it was stock 3.23 or 3.42 then 4.10 will fit with out a spacer..I think.
nope 4.10 need this kit reguardless of what it came from the factory. ive looked into getting 4.10 adn intstall guides all over the net.


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it came stock with 2.73 gears

and to put my foot down....

I AM THE ADHD KING!!!!
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haha, i get mad easily over stupid shit sometimes, i was torquein my head bolts and the ratchet slipped off and i busted my hand on the heater core thing and i beat the fuck out of it with a hammer

LOL!!! really now i got ya beat! i was replacin my radiator in my 84 camaro and i almost got it out then my hand got cut up bad by the condenscer... soooo (its an emty R-4 system) i take out the condencer and take a sledge hammer, cinder block brick to it, toss it 20 feet in the air and bent it in half! lets say that condenscer saw my bad side ^.^;;

Richmond doesnt say anything about spacers or paddles. Just on which series carrier is used. 3.08 and lower or 3.23 and higher. The paddles SLP sells are for the governor style posi units. Sounds like it just wasnt set up correctly.

heater core is in the cab you must mean the radiator or condenser

my friends can always tell when im workin on my car, cause there are always parts scattered throughout my front yard. when something is a bitch to take out then it flies into the yard. when i did my exhaust i blew up the old muffler with fireworks...

yea it might have been the condinsor, i dunno, its on the firewall right in the way of the back head bolts, i jus took the mangled thing out and put sheet metal over the holes, haha i have parts all over my garage, i took out the old wiring harness and all the parts and wires are all over the garage... lol

shit is thrown through out the garage, and i wonder y i can never find anything i need....

what about a bent axle tube? would that cause enough heat to hear on the spyder gears, and cause the ring gear to get hot enough to break, and cause all the seals to get burnt?

Probably not. You would be wearing out axle bearings and there would be a bad wear pattern on the axle from the bearing.