I took the plunge...

Well I took the plunge today and called Luke to order the Impul body kit for a P11, and the Nismo grill !!!

I can't wait to get it. I've wanted the kit for over a year! ...can't believe I paid $3700 (US) for a kit and grill, but I've worked hard for it :D

:flipa: Bastard! I love that kit. I hope it just bolts on. They japanese don't have the 5mph bumpers, that I know of, so there may be some massaging to get it to fit. Still...bastard! :flipa:

yep.. i was assuming as much.. but for that money you better believe i will cut/sand/jaws of life/bang the shit out of anything in the way to get the bumpers on, lol!!!


about getting the kit... :evillaugh i cant wait... w00h00!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

by the way.. this was the first time i spoke with Luke from Digital Racer over the phone, and i just wanted to let everyone know that he was as courteous as he's been on the forum and email :)


dont hesitate to call him... the number is on http://www.digitalracer.com

Chew dat!

Originally posted by b-b00gie
by the way.. this was the first time i spoke with Luke from Digital Racer over the phone, and i just wanted to let everyone know that he was as courteous as he's been on the forum and email :)




Over here we call it "sucking up to get a better deal"..LOL :D :D :D :D

(JUST JOKING !!)

lol... no, i did plenty of that BEFORE we set prices.. hahaha... j/k

no really.. i was just letting ppl know how i felt cause sometimes people are a little nervous about doing deals with people over the internet. hell, if i trust him with almost $4000, then i think everyone else should too... :)

Agree, good to do deals with people who are helpful etc and dont treat you like shit.

Thanks for the good comments b-b00gie :D
because of your pleasing words ;) ..hehe...i am glad to inform you that IMPUL said it will only take 5weeks to get here!!!! But the Nismo grill will take longer. The TEIN Type NA for momog20 is also coming soon.
Hey J, u FINALLY updated the website (www.g20.net)...2 updates in 2 months!?!??! hehehehe, justplaying.....i still haven't uploaded all the G20 stuff on my store yet hehe.
Thanks to those that have visited my site, appreciate the support. I really want to do some sort of gathering of all the primeras we got here, the pics from that Japanese site looks so cool, it would be nice if most of the forum people can meet up...too bad the US is too damn big (and Canada too Jason!)
anyway, thanks again for the kind words.
:)

Yes it is a bugger that we all couldn't get together for a big meeting etc as there are some really nice cars out there.
I think by the support and amount of people on A.F is a sign of just how popular the Primera/G20 is world wide.

w00h00!!!! 5 weeks?!?!?!

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I take that as you being pretty HAPPY !!!:D :D

who? me.. happy?? nah!!! *backflip* :D

haha, yeh, i was surprised too, lets hope everything does comes through on time!
man, you're still a lucky bastard!!! :D
i ordered the impul grill along with your kit, i hope i dont have to do too much of hacking and cutting to fit it in :confused:

*b-b00gie sits patiently and twiddles his thumbs as 42 days have gone by...* :D

[QUOTE]Originally posted by b-b00gie
[B]by the way.. this was the first time i spoke with Luke from Digital Racer over the phone, and i just wanted to let everyone know that he was as courteous as he's been on the forum and email :)


I have to agree with that Luke seems like a nice guy to do business with and I'm getting my springs 100$ cheaper than I would've paid here in Montreal.

Originally posted by b-b00gie
*b-b00gie sits patiently and twiddles his thumbs as 42 days have gone by...* :D

You are going to get old and grey with worry waiting for this kit !!!!!

should be sometime soon i hope... tomorrow is 6 weeks even..

Originally posted by b-b00gie
Well I took the plunge today and called Luke to order the Impul body kit for a P11, and the Nismo grill !!!

I can't wait to get it. I've wanted the kit for over a year! ...can't believe I paid $3700 (US) for a kit and grill, but I've worked hard for it :D

:eek: :eek: $3700??! wouldn't you rather have a turbo? :) do you have a pic of this body kit? i'd like to see.

well a turbo or DET would cost more and the hp to $ ratio isnt really such a deal... you'd have to keep a low boost pressure in order to keep stock engine internals and tranny etc.. if you replace these things you are getting way into the $5000+++ range. i mean.. look at the JWT Turbo kit coming out (if it ever does) the thing will be $3500 and will only be 177hp to the wheels... add an intercooler on that kit and you're now up to $4500... add custom piping... add blow off valve.. the list goes on and on and you're now over $5000 and still not breaking 200hp (safely anyway) ... i wont even get into the cost of electrnics and even more expensive.. guages...


i mean dont get me wrong... if i keep my car long enough i will get a DET, but theres no way that for $3700 i could have had a turbo. also, once you slap a turbo or swap a motor you have to go through the ordeal of finding someone who's "into" cars to buy your's when you're ready to sell. most people really dont want to deal with problems of maintaining turbos (non factory). i truely believe you have to know a good deal about mechanics to keep on top of the upkeep of a turbo...

so anyway.. i went with the cosmetics for now... $350 for a nismo grill and $3350 for the Impul kit... and unlike a turbo G20... i will be the ONLY person in the North America (or probably the only one or few outside of Japan) who owns this kit... so i went with some unique-ness for now...

you can see the kit and grill here...

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2482

its the pics of the white car i posted...

Originally posted by b-b00gie
well a turbo or DET would cost more and the hp to $ ratio isnt really such a deal... you'd have to keep a low boost pressure in order to keep stock engine internals and tranny etc.. if you replace these things you are getting way into the $5000+++ range.

Not really. The DET can take a butt load of boost if you have a well tuned ECU. Timing, fuel and air metering are more important but you won't have to open up a stock DET till you get over the 450hp range.

i mean.. look at the JWT Turbo kit coming out (if it ever does) the thing will be $3500 and will only be 177hp to the wheels... add an intercooler on that kit and you're now up to $4500... add custom piping... add blow off valve.. the list goes on and on and you're now over $5000 and still not breaking 200hp (safely anyway) ...

Oh I think you'd be seeing over 200whp with this setup. Remember that 177hp was on a pure stock motor, no intake, no exhaust. Ploink in some 370cc injetors and you can safely hit 200whp. Don't think that a 'meager' 200 hp at the wheels isn't alot. I took a ride in a DET swapped 200sx this feb at saltfest. He probably had about 230hp and it was a hoot!

once you slap a turbo or swap a motor you have to go through the ordeal of finding someone who's "into" cars to buy your's when you're ready to sell.


:eek: Aww here we go with that crazy talk again! :silly2:

most people really dont want to deal with problems of maintaining turbos (non factory). i truely believe you have to know a good deal about mechanics to keep on top of the upkeep of a turbo...

True in a way. You should alway be aware it's there. But in a properly installed and well thought out turbo install it should be very reliable. But as enthusiests (sp?) we know more about and take better care of our cars than most sane people anyway. :)

Originally posted by G-Forces


Not really. The DET can take a butt load of boost if you have a well tuned ECU. Timing, fuel and air metering are more important but you won't have to open up a stock DET till you get over the 450hp range.




uhm... i've done a ton of research on that and theres NO WAY the DET's stock pistons can handle 300+hp!!! the stock pistons are cast not forged and the piston rings will literally deteriorate when you get close to 300hp... (expensive upgrade) dont forget to grab an hks metal head gasket along with that ($$$)

...and 450hp!@#!@ on that stock lil turbo??? (another expensive upgrade)

and... i wont even mention the tranny... (most expensive upgrade)

you're now up into the $thousands in upgrades on the DET to get over 300hp!


hey dont get me wrong i want a turbo bad as hell.. but i'm just being realistic.. if you want a 250whp G20 with everything included... you are looking at $5000 easily :flash:

Originally posted by b-b00gie
uhm... i've done a ton of research on that and theres NO WAY the DET's stock pistons can handle 300+hp!!! the stock pistons are cast not forged and the piston rings will literally deteriorate when you get close to 300hp... (upgrade)

I disagree. Why then can this internally stock DE(!) see close to 300 horse power at the wheels! and still be running?
http://www.se-r.net/about/200sx/scc/feb99/index.html
The DET stock internals can take a bit more abuse. Again, it all comes down to tuning.


...and 450hp!@#!@ on that stock lil turbo??? (another upgrade)

Nahh we were talking internals. Of course a t25 will never be capable of acheving that amout of flow!


Hey dont get me wrong i want a turbo bad as hell.. but i'm just being realistic.. if you want a 250whp G20 with everything included... you are looking at $5000 easily :flash:

Didn't say it wouldn't. I priced out how much it would cost to safely turbo my G using the F-max stage 2 as a base. I stopped when I got to over $10K Canadian! Taxes and duty are a bitch! That is the main reason my project is on hold. :p

i'm not sure if the DE and DET have different pistons or not... i'm not saying that the DE would have better pistons, but maybe they use the same ones... that 200sx was running 292 hp.. which is probably the limit...


i have a good GTI-R DET upgrade article... the pics are too big to post here, but basically put when they tried for over 300 hp the second and third rings on the pistons melted to a molten mess. this isnt due to the boost pressure.. its the compression pressure... the cast rings cant handle the compression and will begin to fall apart, the engine will still run but like HELL.. you'll see lots of smoke and burning oil :D if you upgrade to forged pistons.. yep you can go with very high boost... but then you've got the tranny probs... :(

anyway.. we've gotten way off point and basically what i was saying is that for $3350 i couldnt walk away with a complete turbo and goodies... so i went with the IMPUL kit cause no one has it... :licker:

The DE has anywhere from 9:1 - 10:1 CR pistons depending on year and domestic market. The GTi-R has 8.3:1 and the BB has 8.5:1 pistons. (correct me if I'm wrong) All are cast. I'd like to read that article if you have a link to it but it sounds a little monkey to me...

Could be bad tuning or a lemon motor...or a badly rebuit motor? :huh: Not enough infomation to really tell. Still sounds fishy to me. 300hp to any internally stock SR shouldn't be that tough even at the wheels.

Anyway yeah $3500 for a complete turbo kit would be pushing the limits of your deal finding abilities. I'm mean we're not driving hondas here were I could get supercharger kits out of vending machines. :D

I think what b00gie meant is that will the car be able to handle 400+hp....the DET pistons are different from the DE as Jason pointed out...i dont know the exact compression ratio, but those figures sounds right. It's a known fact that one can tune the bejeezes out of a SR motor but to get all that power and actually use it on a track can be quite difficult and would lots of those green papers called money.

anyway..b00gie, i called IMPUL again today...same thing they told me 3 weeks ago..."it's on its way"...i SWEAR i am not driving around with it right now :D :D :D the freggin Nismo suppose to be here by now though..."suppose"
as soon as it arrives, i'll call you and ship it to you right away....i was going to open it up,takesome pictures for the folks on this forum...paint it and put it on my car to see how everything fits...hahahaha JK!!!:)

btw...thanks Shaun for the gracious comments...it was nice speaking of the phone with you, love your sarcasm
:sun:

Jason, I'll email you the article... It's from a Nissan tuning specialist in the UK that deals mainly with GTI-R's and 240sx's....

Originally posted by G22DET
btw...thanks Shaun for the gracious comments...it was nice speaking of the phone with you, love your sarcasm
:sun:

Sarcasm? Huh? I wasn't rude to you was I? Did'nt mean to be, especially cuz you really are saving me 100$ :)

Should be callin you this afternoon.

YAH u big rude meany!!!! hahaha, no i didnt think you were rude, just pretty funny some of the stuff you said :D
if you want, u can call me right now...i just called you but no one was home.
:)

wooooohooooooooo!!!!!

i was just talking to Luke online and look at the good news he told me...


YhonY [2:13 PM]: btw, good news on the impul
YhonY [2:14 PM]: it's in the US now
YhonY [2:14 PM]: at the custom, so should be anytime before they release it


:flash:

if you want, u can call me right now...i just called you but no one was home.
:) [/B][/QUOTE]

Phew sure am glad I did`nt say anything stupid :) I`m sorry for taking so long for the springs but I have a customer who has a US addy so I want to see if I can get it shipped to him so I can save on customs charges...Looks like it`ll have to wait til Monday.

someone had asked what the IMPUL and Nismo grill looked like.. here's a pic i havent posted before...

cant wait looks like i should have the kit/grill soon!!

Sure is a nice kit you have coming.

The grill......it looks like it attaches over the 2 grill Primera bonnet?

Originally posted by b-b00gie
someone had asked what the IMPUL and Nismo grill looked like.. here's a pic i havent posted before...

cant wait looks like i should have the kit/grill soon!!




Hey, boogie man :D , you'll be able to have a car that corresponds to the pic in your signature :)

Seriously, though, it looks very nice. Congratulations... :)

ales, all i need is the dual headlights, thats next :) i even have a euro plate too, it reads "SR20DE" ...maybe one day i'll have to get a "SR20DET" plate! :licker:

primera man, no, that thing you see there in the center is actually the hood latch. the owner left if painted white so it shows through a bit even with the black mesh in front of it. i will paint my latch black so you dont see any of it. ;)

actually.. now that i look at it a little harder, primera man may be right... i guess i'll find out when i get the thing!! :D

where (in the USA) can I get one of those Nismo Grill????:p

you can get one from Luke @ Digital Racer. The phone number is on their website, although the grill is not. The price is around $350 US ...its a little pricey but then again all Nismo body parts are, not to mention the fact that they must be imported etc...

www.digitalracer.com

woohooo thanks for advertising!!! ;)
actually that picture with the nismo grill is slightly modified...i think b00gie pointed out before that the center piece is cut open by that owner.
this is what the grill originally looked like (post this pic before)

yep... i'm not sure yet if i will cut mine out too... i'll have to see what it looks like...


btw, on the nismo kit on that pic you posted luke.. i never noticed that the nismo kit has some pieces that go on the bottom of the doors.. :eek:

well Luke got the Nismo grill from customs on wednesday, and shipped it out yesterday... i should have it monday!! :flash: hopefully the Impul kit will get released soon too!

look what Luke emailed me the other day.. bastard tried to get me scared and say that the Nismo grill looked horrible, lol...



DUUUUUUUUDE, the nismo looks like shit...

AHAHAHHA...no way, oh my god, that thing is so nice....
ok, first, it's abs plastic...all shiny and not a scratch on it, u can just put it on as is! second...it's so damn cool...u can either leave the center line in or u can take it out...it's removeable and there's brackets for you to detach/attach third..perhaps the coolest part is that it iwll fit our hood PERFECTLY just like the stock grill...it comes with different brackets that fits either the JDM hood or the USDM hood i want it now..heh..



:D

b-bOOgie....i hope you are going to post some pics soon of this kit etc :cool:

Hey Luke, can you also get the dual headlights? any estimated of how much will they cost?

do you mean for a P11 or P10?

i'm probably gonna have luke get me the P11 dual lights (like the ones in my signature) next week.. they are $900 US for the silver housing ones... he hasnt been able to find the black housing though.


btw this is for the light assembly only.... not light bulbs or wiring, etc..

like these ?

yep those are the ones i want to get..

i wonder if for $900 i get those corners too.. they have the "parking light" in them above the turn signal bulb...

shit thats a few dollars worth....but they like tight !!!!:D :D

Have seen one other car here and they make such a difference to the look of the car....NICE :cool:

Yes, for the P11.

Cool pic, primeraman. Also a good work on the grill on that pic. I'm working on something like that for mine.

I want those lights very badly, but find 900 to high.

I'll have to start saving some bucks for that.

yeah.. $900 is a little steep but the way i see it is... stock P11 lights cost $400-500... so for dual (which i think are cooler looking) headlights.. i'd go another $200-250, so i'm up to $700 or so now, then theres the shipping/customs/the fact that no one else has them here.. thats worth another $200.. so to me $900 is worth it hehe...

lol.. maybe its just my crazy way of thinking.. hell, i paid almost $4k for a grill and body kit!! :rolleyes:

Yeah well....i guess if you look at it that way it's worth it then.

Plus you can sell your old ones if you want and get a little back.

The other thing is I want to put xenon on them, so I will have to add at least 600 more. That will get it to 1500.

:(

if there is an interest on the dual headlights for the P11, i might be able to get a better deal on them...$900 for the set is really expensive, although they are very nice looking....
let me know if anyone is interested.

bboogie- how much is the impul front bumper only? thanx.

not sure...


for the front/rear bumpers and sides... i paid $3350


i'm sure it would be around $1200 or more, concidering if you buy the whole kit at once you save some money..

Luke, I am interested in having my car with the dual headlights. Why don't you find the best price and post it here. If it's reasonable, I am sure more people will be interested.

Do you still have the West Wings front lip?

ok, once i gather around like 5 people, I'll go ahead and make the call...i cant keep calling Japan cuz they are already very very irritated with me with my zillion questions :D
as for the WW lip, i sold the one that i had at the shop but i can always order another for you if you like.
and for Kenchan, the front impul kit is around $1300-1400USD.

thanx for the price info, dudes. that's a niiice bumper. guess I'll work mine until it has too many dings and scratches and get the impul down the road.

Luke, are those lights standard on the japanese primera?

luke- btw, would you be able to help me out on an exhaust? I gotta AT, so don't something too loud. Are Apex's N1 loud?

thanx