Skylines through Motorex
PapoSwing
04-13-2004, 04:48 PM
has anybody bought a skyline GT-R34 form motorex? If so how much was it (without the conversion) and in what conditions? I'm just wondering if I buy a skyline form another dealer, could Motorex then pick it up and do all of the conversions? Or I can send it to them either way, I just want to know if they won't be hard asses in terms of it being a vehicle they did not personally find for me. Any other info in this subject would help me alot in my final decsion.
oi_boy
04-13-2004, 05:50 PM
70-80k through motorex. top quality conditions. you can buy a car yourself then ship it to motorex to legalize it. but as of 2003 motorex is no longer legalizing r34 models. i bought my r32 GTR from Ins Imports. they have good prices and the reps are super nice. i am having motorex do the legalization for me. i would check them out at www.jns-imports.com
PapoSwing
04-13-2004, 06:54 PM
Are you serious! A stock R34 will cost me 70 grand? Is that including conversions and shipping or just the actual car? I thought these r34 were going for around 50K. Is there another place where I can get one?
And why the hell is motorex not converting r34 to US specs? Where else can I get converted for US spec? I have also been seeing different r34 models like V-spec I, V-spec II, and base. What is the difference between them?
And why the hell is motorex not converting r34 to US specs? Where else can I get converted for US spec? I have also been seeing different r34 models like V-spec I, V-spec II, and base. What is the difference between them?
oi_boy
04-13-2004, 07:51 PM
thats for the car, shipping, and legalization fees. legalization is 25k. around 50k for the car and 75k for the whole legalization. motorex is not legalizing r34s because their contract with the DOT and EPA went up. as far as i know, they dont have any plans of renewing it any time soon. the models of the vspecs are tuned...like i said in the other post. there is no other RI that can legally legalize skylines. any and all skylines have to go through motorex.
1999-2002 GT-R GT-R Vspec
Weight 3388 lbs 3432 lbs
Length 181.1 in 181.1 in
Width 70.3 in 70.3 in
Height 53.5 in 53.5 in
Wheelbase 104.9 in 104.9 in
Turning Radius 5.6 m 5.6 m
Fuel Capacity 18.0 gallons 18.0 gallons
1999-2002 GT-R GT-R Vspec
Weight 3388 lbs 3432 lbs
Length 181.1 in 181.1 in
Width 70.3 in 70.3 in
Height 53.5 in 53.5 in
Wheelbase 104.9 in 104.9 in
Turning Radius 5.6 m 5.6 m
Fuel Capacity 18.0 gallons 18.0 gallons
RazorGTR
04-14-2004, 04:13 AM
Except right now the R34 can't be legalized in the States. That should be sorted out soon. So will RBMotorings compliance paperwork.
TuxedoCartman
04-14-2004, 04:48 AM
oi boy is actually misinformed. Motorex isn't able to legalize R34's currently because they need to use the OBDII system on 98 and newer GTR's. That's the last of the R33's and all R34's. Motorex was using the older, easier to use OBDI system on their cars, but the government put a stop to that.
They are "supposedly" working on developing an OBDII system for R34's that will pass EPA and DOT standards. They say that by September they'll be able to legalize R34's for road use. It's not that I don't believe them, but they also said last August that it'd be done by the end of 2003. We'll see...
They are "supposedly" working on developing an OBDII system for R34's that will pass EPA and DOT standards. They say that by September they'll be able to legalize R34's for road use. It's not that I don't believe them, but they also said last August that it'd be done by the end of 2003. We'll see...
PapoSwing
04-14-2004, 11:50 AM
Even if Motorex isn't legalizing GTR34 s anymore, If I found a GT r34 thorugh another dealerahip (let's say at a lower price than 50 k) would motorex still have legalized it if they hadn't found the cars themselves?
And when is motorex expecting to continue legalizing R34 for the US?
And when is motorex expecting to continue legalizing R34 for the US?
TuxedoCartman
04-14-2004, 12:38 PM
Yeah, they legalize cars they don't find themselves. They make all their money (which isn't as much as people think) on the legalization of the cars.
SkylineUSA
04-14-2004, 01:15 PM
oi boy is actually misinformed. Motorex isn't able to legalize R34's currently because they need to use the OBDII system on 98 and newer GTR's. That's the last of the R33's and all R34's. Motorex was using the older, easier to use OBDI system on their cars, but the government put a stop to that.
They are "supposedly" working on developing an OBDII system for R34's that will pass EPA and DOT standards. They say that by September they'll be able to legalize R34's for road use. It's not that I don't believe them, but they also said last August that it'd be done by the end of 2003. We'll see...
Actually its 96 and newer that are not being imported right now. 96 was when the OBDII started:)
They are "supposedly" working on developing an OBDII system for R34's that will pass EPA and DOT standards. They say that by September they'll be able to legalize R34's for road use. It's not that I don't believe them, but they also said last August that it'd be done by the end of 2003. We'll see...
Actually its 96 and newer that are not being imported right now. 96 was when the OBDII started:)
SkylineUSA
04-14-2004, 01:17 PM
oi boy is actually misinformed. Motorex isn't able to legalize R34's currently because they need to use the OBDII system on 98 and newer GTR's. That's the last of the R33's and all R34's. Motorex was using the older, easier to use OBDI system on their cars, but the government put a stop to that.
They are "supposedly" working on developing an OBDII system for R34's that will pass EPA and DOT standards. They say that by September they'll be able to legalize R34's for road use. It's not that I don't believe them, but they also said last August that it'd be done by the end of 2003. We'll see...
Actually its 96 and newer that are not being imported right now. 96 was when the OBDII started:)
No, no one knows when they will be able too start importing them again.
They are "supposedly" working on developing an OBDII system for R34's that will pass EPA and DOT standards. They say that by September they'll be able to legalize R34's for road use. It's not that I don't believe them, but they also said last August that it'd be done by the end of 2003. We'll see...
Actually its 96 and newer that are not being imported right now. 96 was when the OBDII started:)
No, no one knows when they will be able too start importing them again.
oi_boy
04-14-2004, 01:32 PM
Yeah, they legalize cars they don't find themselves. They make all their money (which isn't as much as people think) on the legalization of the cars.
The legalization is actually a side project of their actual business.
OH YEA THIS JUST IN!! I called motorex today to ask them when theyll be legalizing 96+ models again, and they said by the end of this year.
The legalization is actually a side project of their actual business.
OH YEA THIS JUST IN!! I called motorex today to ask them when theyll be legalizing 96+ models again, and they said by the end of this year.
SkylineUSA
04-14-2004, 01:35 PM
They should have told you, they hope to be legalizing them by the end of the year. :iceslolan
oi_boy
04-14-2004, 05:55 PM
they said for sure, theyre almost done with the paperwork
TuxedoCartman
04-14-2004, 08:55 PM
I so want to believe them. I SOOOOOOOO want to believe them.
By the way, your totally right SkylineUSA. 1996 is the newest they can import. Don't know what I was thinking earlier. Moment of stupid.
By the way, your totally right SkylineUSA. 1996 is the newest they can import. Don't know what I was thinking earlier. Moment of stupid.
VQuick
04-14-2004, 09:30 PM
Even if Motorex isn't legalizing GTR34 s anymore, If I found a GT r34 thorugh another dealerahip (let's say at a lower price than 50 k) would motorex still have legalized it if they hadn't found the cars themselves?
It would be highly unlikely that you'd find an R34 GT-R for much less than $50k. That's about how much you can expect to pay for one...in Japan. The US dealer would have paid close to that just for the car, and the selling price will be even higher. Why? They would have to pay the total of $70k+ that we told you about before, since the car would be legalized by Motorex. Of course, the dealer still has to make a profit after all that, so the car would be even more.
The car would only be legal if it had been done in the past, before Motorex had to stop legalizing 96-up Skylines. Chances are you won't find an R34, anyway. The few who managed to get an R34 are probably going to hold on to them now.
It would be highly unlikely that you'd find an R34 GT-R for much less than $50k. That's about how much you can expect to pay for one...in Japan. The US dealer would have paid close to that just for the car, and the selling price will be even higher. Why? They would have to pay the total of $70k+ that we told you about before, since the car would be legalized by Motorex. Of course, the dealer still has to make a profit after all that, so the car would be even more.
The car would only be legal if it had been done in the past, before Motorex had to stop legalizing 96-up Skylines. Chances are you won't find an R34, anyway. The few who managed to get an R34 are probably going to hold on to them now.
matada
04-16-2004, 12:36 AM
Keep watching the prices of the 34's. They are starting to show a steady, constant increase in price at the auctions. In fact, ALL models of the GTR are starting to go up. The demand and popularity of the vehicles, as well as some countries recent slacking of their importation guidelines have led to a rush of auction purchases.
The price of the 89 has increased by roughly and average of 1000 USD in the last 6 months. The 34 has increased by an average of 3000 usd. If this trend continues, don't expect the Skyline to be a readily obtainable car, as the current owners and sellers will realize the profit potential and start selling the cars for a higher price or just hanging onto them.
The price of the 89 has increased by roughly and average of 1000 USD in the last 6 months. The 34 has increased by an average of 3000 usd. If this trend continues, don't expect the Skyline to be a readily obtainable car, as the current owners and sellers will realize the profit potential and start selling the cars for a higher price or just hanging onto them.
oi_boy
04-16-2004, 02:20 AM
i think you have one too less zeros. where i looked it was averaging 10k for 32 gtrs and 30k for a 34.
thegladhatter
04-16-2004, 03:09 AM
i think you have one too less zeros. where i looked it was averaging 10k for 32 gtrs and 30k for a 34.
Practice reading for comprehension!
....They are starting to show a steady, constant increase in price at the auctions. ....The price of the 89 has increased by roughly and average of 1000 USD in the last 6 months. The 34 has increased by an average of 3000 usd. If this trend continues, don't expect the Skyline to be a readily obtainable car, as the current owners and sellers will realize the profit potential and start selling the cars for a higher price or just hanging onto them.
By what YOU are saying....the price has increased by $10,000.00 over the last 6 months. That is NOT what has happened. What has ordinarily gone for $7000.00 is now averaging $8000.00. Mark deals in more cars in this area than ANY other dealer. He would know.
Practice reading for comprehension!
....They are starting to show a steady, constant increase in price at the auctions. ....The price of the 89 has increased by roughly and average of 1000 USD in the last 6 months. The 34 has increased by an average of 3000 usd. If this trend continues, don't expect the Skyline to be a readily obtainable car, as the current owners and sellers will realize the profit potential and start selling the cars for a higher price or just hanging onto them.
By what YOU are saying....the price has increased by $10,000.00 over the last 6 months. That is NOT what has happened. What has ordinarily gone for $7000.00 is now averaging $8000.00. Mark deals in more cars in this area than ANY other dealer. He would know.
matada
04-16-2004, 04:06 AM
Actually, what I am saying is a 1989 GTR was about 580000 yen at the auction last Novermer, before tax and other fees. Now, the same vehicle is averaging about 680,000 to 720,000 yen. This is an increase of about 1000 dollars over the last 6 months.
Anyone who can show me a non accident 34 GTR for 30k and I will buy it this instant. They don't exist. Period.
Anyone who can show me a non accident 34 GTR for 30k and I will buy it this instant. They don't exist. Period.
thegladhatter
04-16-2004, 06:06 AM
BTW Mark...My post was directed at him as he was having trouble comprehending what you had posted. ...just trying to clarify...
RazorGTR
04-16-2004, 03:14 PM
Matada I find that quite interesting as I've been watching the GTR sales prices drop for the R33 and R34. I know they will fluxuate so please do keep us informed.
Seems the R32 GTR has stabilized again maybe increasing slightly. I doubt they will drop much more though as fewer and fewer become available.
Seems the R32 GTR has stabilized again maybe increasing slightly. I doubt they will drop much more though as fewer and fewer become available.
matada
04-16-2004, 08:29 PM
The 34 has reached as low as I believe it will go. I don't forsee a good condition R34 GTR selling for any less than 35k in the next few years. Since GTR production has been halted and lack of a turbo vehicle replacement from Nissan, loyalists are starting to buy the 34's because they are the newest and best platform that is available. T
he 33 is kind of an exception to all that is GTR. It just isn't as popular as the other two, so the prices for them may remain reasonable for a longer period, but eventualy, they too will increase.
The 32 is the GTR from which all baselines were drawn. It has always been a cult classic, and there are twice as many on the road as the other models. The problem in these vehicles is finding non-accident grade ones with good trannys. If you can find a good 93 32, it will most likely run you in the area of 15k at the auction. By the time it hits the floor, it is a 20k plus car. The 89 is coming up because the ability to bring them into some countries under the "15" year rule.
My suggestion to the buyer is to grab a good condition 91-92 and hang on to it. It is the lowest priced, and is pretty much guaranteed to increase in value.
he 33 is kind of an exception to all that is GTR. It just isn't as popular as the other two, so the prices for them may remain reasonable for a longer period, but eventualy, they too will increase.
The 32 is the GTR from which all baselines were drawn. It has always been a cult classic, and there are twice as many on the road as the other models. The problem in these vehicles is finding non-accident grade ones with good trannys. If you can find a good 93 32, it will most likely run you in the area of 15k at the auction. By the time it hits the floor, it is a 20k plus car. The 89 is coming up because the ability to bring them into some countries under the "15" year rule.
My suggestion to the buyer is to grab a good condition 91-92 and hang on to it. It is the lowest priced, and is pretty much guaranteed to increase in value.
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