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jsb88
01-06-2003, 09:21 AM
I think AF should design our own car to beat this time, and call it the AF roadster. We could design it all online! I bet that would break a record, fastest production car and first car where the designers didnt meet.

Menu dei Motori
01-06-2003, 12:09 PM
yea we should ask in the design modelling and graphic section

jsb88
01-07-2003, 02:01 AM
Yes.... Who has a wind testing tunnel? :D But seriously we could design a good car!!!

Menu dei Motori
01-07-2003, 07:13 AM
for wind testing we could ask at ferrari :D

farbod
01-07-2003, 01:00 PM
yeh i love ferrari


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farbod
01-07-2003, 01:15 PM
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i this car is the BEST SUPER CAR AROUND..........................





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farbod
01-07-2003, 01:19 PM
does eny one know how much it costs
i realy want to know
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Pennzoil GT-R
01-08-2003, 08:59 AM
Well this car is in EVO magazine this month, in an interview with the TVR engine shop guy "Andy". What he says pretty much clears up any speculation of power figures, prices etc.. For the power figures, noone knows, the race cars were restricted to around 660 to 680bhp, but the fully unrestricted road car engine was only ever dyno'd once on TVR's 1000bhp dyno.......and it broke it. The torque from the engine snapped the input shaft to the dyno before a proper reading could be taken. The only way the car ever had a half accurate power figure was when the car was run seperately on 2 banks of cylinders, and each of the two banks was dyno'd seperately. From combining this TVR could only estimate the power, to be around 940bhp at 7200rpm.

And on it's price/availablilty. The owner of TVR drove the car once, and knew straight away the car was too dangerous. It was too powerful for its own good. Nearly 1000bhp in a car weighing just over a ton. So as for the rumours that one or two will be built per month for customers, its no longer true. The undisclosed number of cars already built have been locked away, and you will never be able to buy or drive a road going TVR Speed 12:(

Menu dei Motori
01-08-2003, 10:42 AM
horrible news you have there :( :( :(

farbod
01-08-2003, 12:58 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: thats not good :eek: :eek: :eek:

jsb88
01-09-2003, 02:17 AM
Well if it is too powerful, with over 1000bhp, weiging just over a ton, then if you were to crash you would go home in a matchbox. With no airbags this would be a disasterous offering to the public. Imagine the insurance costs!!! :( Sad but you have to agree sensible.

farbod
01-09-2003, 04:56 AM
well the insurance on one of the old minies for someone under 21 i £2,000 so for the tvr i cant even imagine howe much it will be. but i supoes someone who is ready to buy a car well over £100,000 is not going to worry about the insuarence .


does eny one know the price of this car?


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jsb88
01-09-2003, 07:57 AM
Are you sure it is £2000!! I pay £1000 for my Jag!! and my wifes first car was a mini. On limited milage or expectancy of about 12k miles a year, it owuld cost a lot less than that... That is a true rip off.

farbod
01-09-2003, 01:35 PM
the price is diffarent for diffarent ages if you are under 21 usualy the insurance is much more expensive. and yes it was the old mini




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Pennzoil GT-R
01-09-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by farbod


does eny one know the price of this car?




there is no price, they arent for sale and never will be.

jsb88
01-10-2003, 10:25 AM
I know about insurance policy rules, but £2000 for a buggered old mini is a bit too much. That is why my sons car is insured under my name for £400 a year.

farbod
01-10-2003, 01:53 PM
maby i am wrong




WHY IS THE TVR NOT FOR SALE IS IT A CONCEPT CAR?????????








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jsb88
01-11-2003, 02:05 AM
Well this car is in EVO magazine this month, in an interview with the TVR engine shop guy "Andy". What he says pretty much clears up any speculation of power figures, prices etc.. For the power figures, noone knows, the race cars were restricted to around 660 to 680bhp, but the fully unrestricted road car engine was only ever dyno'd once on TVR's 1000bhp dyno.......and it broke it. The torque from the engine snapped the input shaft to the dyno before a proper reading could be taken. The only way the car ever had a half accurate power figure was when the car was run seperately on 2 banks of cylinders, and each of the two banks was dyno'd seperately. From combining this TVR could only estimate the power, to be around 940bhp at 7200rpm.
By GTR

Menu dei Motori
01-11-2003, 04:54 AM
what´s all in the evo of this month?

Pennzoil GT-R
01-11-2003, 05:15 PM
its a good issue, the best articles:

Bugatti Veyron
Aston V8 Vantage
Holden Monaro vs. BMW M3
interview with Gordan Murray about the Veyron
800bhp MTM Audi TT
VW Golf R32
"power wars" - a piece analysing the highest power cars, group b cars, dragsters etc.
Merc E55 vs. Audi RS6 vs. BMW M5
Interview with Peter Wheeler - where he talks about the Speed 12
Dax Rush Hayabusa
Audi S4
end of year longterm cars test

jsb88
01-12-2003, 03:17 AM
wow... I should go and get a copy... :)

Menu dei Motori
01-12-2003, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
its a good issue, the best articles:

Bugatti Veyron
Aston V8 Vantage
Holden Monaro vs. BMW M3
interview with Gordan Murray about the Veyron
800bhp MTM Audi TT
VW Golf R32
"power wars" - a piece analysing the highest power cars, group b cars, dragsters etc.
Merc E55 vs. Audi RS6 vs. BMW M5
Interview with Peter Wheeler - where he talks about the Speed 12
Dax Rush Hayabusa
Audi S4
end of year longterm cars test

sounds good
do you know that it costs here at the airport? (it´s the only way i can get it)
14€... what does it cost in britain

farbod
01-12-2003, 08:59 AM
i agree it realy sounds good i cant wait to get it

farbod
01-12-2003, 09:02 AM
ok i am starting to get a little bit confused
1.why is this car not available to buy?
2. is it a concept car?
3.has the top speed been confered yet?

PLEASE TELL ME I WANT TO KNOW

jsb88
01-12-2003, 02:32 PM
I just bought this months Evo on your recommendation. Now sit down and listen children. :D

The car is not available to buy because the boss of TVR, Peter Wheeler drove the car back to his home, and withign 300 yards of driving he realised the car was too fast. Weighing as much as an ordinary TVR with twice the BHP with its 7.7 litre v12 (actually 2 engines joined together) meant that it was far too dangerous a car to manufacture.
The list price for the car £160,000 ($257,000) but he decided that they would never be sold for the road. He has had a few offers from poeple to buy them, but he has talked them all out of buying the car. Maybe they might be sold for racing one day, but not for a few long years yet.
When they were measuring the BHP, the machinery used to measure was destroyed by the cars engine, with a limit of 1000 BHP, so top speed would be well over 240MPH. The tests on the 2 engines linked together showed 940BHP. Buto n a car weighing 1150KG, any Mclaren F1 would not have stood a chance against the Speed 12.

Menu, it costs 3.60 here! (5.51 Euros) so you are paying 3 times the value!!

Menu dei Motori
01-12-2003, 05:17 PM
well

thanks jsb


but at the airport it´s the only magazine shop i know that has the magazine...
i pay the value if there´s good stuff in and that´s in the evo!

farbod
01-13-2003, 02:58 PM
thats aufal i was realy looking forward too seing it on the road.
surely they can fix that problem. they could reduce the horse power a bit and make it heaviour.






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jsb88
01-14-2003, 01:52 AM
But then it wouldn't truly be a speed 12.

Menu dei Motori
01-14-2003, 05:24 AM
a true fan of the car would change nothing!

jsb88
01-14-2003, 09:47 AM
Yes I suppose...

farbod
01-14-2003, 09:51 AM
i guess thats the end of the speed 12

jsb88
01-14-2003, 09:56 AM
Oh well.... :( good car... too good for its own good.

Menu dei Motori
01-14-2003, 10:01 AM
and i think that´s good!
a true enthusiast takes it as it is
that´s why i hate the tuning firms :D

farbod
01-14-2003, 11:14 AM
atleast we know it would have whiped all the other cars in a race i mean have you ever heared of a car that is "too fast to drive"



i recon they should make a new car not the speed 12 they could call it the speed 13 and they could fix all the problems of the speed 12.

farbod
01-14-2003, 11:24 AM
have you heared of the buggati veyron it is proberly the only car that could stand a chance in a race againts the tvr speed 12. it has 1001bhp
0-100km in 3.2 seconds 0-300km in under 14 seconds and a max speed of over 250 miles per hour. you might want too read that bit again.
BUT dont get your hopes up because it costs a whoping £750,000 and well over $1,000,000 thats £750 per 1bhp.

jsb88
01-14-2003, 12:11 PM
If TVR did sell to racers then they would probably make a few easy 10's of millions.

Scott 02
01-22-2003, 03:07 PM
I think so.

jsb88
01-22-2003, 03:13 PM
Menu I sent the EVO magazine...

1) I hurt my fingers playing 5's so the adress is a bit messy, but should do.
2) I fogot to right Germany, but did put Air Mail, which might have Germany on the sticker, and they can work out Worthsee i in Germany.
3) they only had normal large brown envelopes, no squidgy ones....

Hope it turns out all right! :)

Menu dei Motori
01-23-2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by jsb88
Menu I sent the EVO magazine...

1) I hurt my fingers playing 5's so the adress is a bit messy, but should do.
2) I fogot to right Germany, but did put Air Mail, which might have Germany on the sticker, and they can work out Worthsee i in Germany.
3) they only had normal large brown envelopes, no squidgy ones....

Hope it turns out all right! :)
ok
you´ll get the laraki cd next days!

greets
Menu

jsb88
01-23-2003, 12:39 PM
Can't wait!!

farbod
04-03-2003, 01:28 PM
me too
yo is eny one online at the moment

Spagnet
06-11-2003, 07:24 AM
I think that tvr only made 2 of the original Speed 12's, both with the 850bhp 7.7L engine, but that never went into production. They're both rotting in the backyard of the factory in Blackpool, cuz ive seen them, what a shame. The Cerbera Speed 12 has the same engine, but in a modified Cerbera shell, which means that the Cerbera Speed 12 isnt quite as fast as the original. Oh, and tvr have opened a factory in the states i think, though i dont know where. They used to be illegal due to US emission laws, but now the laws have been changed, tvr have started selling in the states again. They're really cheap as well, a cerbera speed 12 only costs £150k in england!

farbod
06-11-2003, 11:29 AM
ONLY 150k is alot of money you know

jsb88
06-12-2003, 01:45 AM
For a 1000+Bhp car? which would be one of the fastest in the world if made? thats cheap I assure you. That thing could kick the Enzo at three times the price!

Scott 02
06-12-2003, 10:26 AM
That thing could kick the Enzo at three times the price!
Heck yeah! no competition

farbod
06-12-2003, 11:17 AM
i supose so the only other car that has 1000bhp wich is the bugatti veyron costs 750k

Guyanson_Mendiola
11-10-2003, 02:21 AM
is there any TVR dealership in the United States?

Spagnet
11-11-2003, 10:53 AM
As far as i know, TVR have recently (like in the last couple of years or so) started having dealerships in the US again. Im sure that i saw one in Orlando, not too far from international drive when i went there this summer. there wont be many dealers yet, there are only a handful in the UK, but you can bet that it wont be long before there are quite a few in the states.

Bing Dang Wong
01-09-2004, 05:03 AM
lol Speed 12 is t3h leet it will beat my Mazda 121 it must be pretty fast!!!!!!111111111111111111111111111111111

Linketh
01-09-2004, 05:04 AM
Ive heard that it has a 7.7 liter V12 making 818 hp. From what I know, it does 0-60 in 2.9 seconds.
not by TVR but i let a profesional driver take my one out for a spin and he got to 290 on the straigh at eastern creek <aus> i got it imported from UK and its a trailer bitch or show car ie: insured but not registered lives in a high security garage wit hmy other cars. my daily driver is a mustang because i dont beleive in ricing i like speed 12's they are very comfortable in the cabin IMO

Bing Dang Wong
01-09-2004, 05:07 AM
I only have a few show cars, my best one is my stock hyundai excel

jsb88
01-09-2004, 05:31 AM
not by TVR but i let a profesional driver take my one out for a spin and he got to 290 on the straigh at eastern creek <aus> i got it imported from UK and its a trailer bitch or show car ie: insured but not registered lives in a high security garage wit hmy other cars. my daily driver is a mustang because i dont beleive in ricing i like speed 12's they are very comfortable in the cabin IMO

A mechanic who sells LAN supplies...? :eek7: http://www.1337-lan.tk/ ?

"located in the Blue Mts. in Australia." Isn't that quite far away from Sydney?

The "admins" appear to be Alex Dan and Dave, a company on this scale (judjing by the website) would surely mean that you, Linketh would have a hand in the running of the site?

I am particularly interested in your very aggressive signature defending the fact you has these cars. You are new, has anybody even doubted you before this moment? (Linkeths cars list):

2002 TVR Speed 12
1998 Ferrari F50
2002 Maserati 3200 GT
2000 Ford Mustang

And his signature - "I own these cars they are very nice if you doubt me i will OWN you" Ooh Scary...

Linketh
01-09-2004, 05:36 AM
A mechanic who sells LAN supplies...? :eek7: http://www.1337-lan.tk/ ?

"located in the Blue Mts. in Australia." Isn't that quite far away from Sydney?

The "admins" appear to be Alex Dan and Dave, a company on this scale (judjing by the website) would surely mean that you, Linketh would have a hand in the running of the site?

I am particularly interested in your very aggressive signature defending the fact you has these cars. You are new, has anybody even doubted you before this moment? (Linkeths cars list):

2002 TVR Speed 12
1998 Ferrari F50
2002 Maserati 3200 GT
2000 Ford Mustang

And his signature - "I own these cars they are very nice if you doubt me i will OWN you" Ooh Scary...
hey i didnt come here to flame mate i came here for a good discussion i never give out my real details on forums. that site is one i just found and my name isnt linketh do you think i would keep my name if it was? its a stupid name but i use it as a handle for ps2 online so i use it for everything please dont be scared of me i jus twant to be friends ill admit that i dont own a ferrari f50 or a speed 12 but the maserati is mine and so is the mustang. the speed 12 belongs to my father but i wanted to make an impression so i posted it was mine im really sorry i hope i dont get banned will i get banend for this? i dont want to im only new and i shoud get a warning and im really dsorry il ledit it and put in my proper details if you want me to ill even make my sig my credit card details just dont ban me please


EDIT: you need more proof have a look further thru that site seriously it isnt even finished go on have a look thats proof it isnt my site and my name isnt any of them

jsb88
01-09-2004, 05:39 AM
No of course you won't get banned. Don't worry too much it happens all the time, and at least you had the guts to admit it.

Linketh
01-09-2004, 05:43 AM
No of course you won't get banned. Don't worry too much it happens all the time, and at least you had the guts to admit it.
**sniff** thanks for being so nice to me but i do own the maserati and the mustang. the speed 12 is my fathers also he lives in england sumwhere. ran off wit hhis secratery <happens so often nowadays>

EDIT: and the stats about the speed 12 that i posted are true as i have driven it before but i dont own it. once again im really sorry im still a little paranoid about getting banned

jsb88
01-09-2004, 05:51 AM
The only reason you got caught is because I am very suspicious, I have done this loads of time dont worry people don't get banned that easily!

Linketh
01-09-2004, 05:53 AM
The only reason you got caught is because I am very suspicious, I have done this loads of time dont worry people don't get banned that easily!
oh thats good news! do you beleive me about the other cars tho? i hope you do because well yeah its true. shame i dont own the speed 12 its a real nice motorveichle<sp?>

jsb88
01-09-2004, 05:55 AM
Motorcar
Vehicle
Auto
Car - 4 useful words and their spelling for this website!

Linketh
01-09-2004, 05:56 AM
Motorcar
Vehicle
Auto
Car - 4 useful words and their spelling for this website!
what about automobile?

jsb88
01-09-2004, 05:57 AM
good point! missed that one.

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