5 spd shifting

I thought popped into my head the other day. What if I changed my punky 4-speed with a 5spd. Would it shift faster or smoother? Can any one tell me if this is true. Would the dx 5speed shift quicker than the 4 spd and would the si 5-speed shift quicker than the dx 5 speed? This stupid 4-speed shifts like a mofo and takes maybe 5 seconds to shift into 2, 3, or 4th gear.

Big differnce.The gears in a 5 speed are shorter than a 4 speed tranny.You will be able to chirp 2nd with a 5spd.What i do know is that the ex and si trannys are the same,and are made for the mpfi engines,,so yes there is more power in a si tranny

Big differnce.The gears in a 5 speed are shorter than a 4 speed tranny.You will be able to chirp 2nd with a 5spd the 4spd is basically an hf tranny minus the 5th gear. and i can chirp 2nd with my stock hf. its just easier with the dx/si tranny.
This stupid 4-speed shifts like a mofo and takes maybe 5 seconds to shift into 2, 3, or 4th gear.
explain a lil more? kinda got me confused there, sounds like u got an auto or something.

I thought popped into my head the other day. What if I changed my punky 4-speed with a 5spd. Would it shift faster or smoother? Can any one tell me if this is true. Would the dx 5speed shift quicker than the 4 spd and would the si 5-speed shift quicker than the dx 5 speed? This stupid 4-speed shifts like a mofo and takes maybe 5 seconds to shift into 2, 3, or 4th gear.
you must speak of a Auto tranny the 4spd stick shifts just as quick as any other tranny the throw and shifter is the same.
4spd is great for AutoXing i just drop into 2nd and zip round corse you can go from a stop to 60mph in 2nd gear. the DX 5spd has shorter gears same with SI.
Yes you can swap in diff D trannys into the 4spd stick. I almost put in SI tranny before my B16.

what kinda of racing are you doing with it to make you want to change. i think it would be better in drag racing because you would say more in the power band i stead of dropin so many r's so if your drag racing do it go with the 5spd. .....thats just my take.......

I would go with a Si or ZC trans. There is a website some where out there that lists EVERY spec for Honda transmissions. If any one knows of this please post it, I been looking for it.

First off, it's a manual 4spd. I guess I should have been more clear. I have been told by many that my synchros are bad in both 1st and 2nd. They may be the problem so thanks to everyone. And by the way......just the other day, I followed a dx four door to school and I could barely keep up with her. She has a manual and I seriously thought that it was an automatic because she shifted so smoothly. Is the DX trans that quick and good? She just zoomed on out of there while I'm driving like a granny just to keep up.

One more question. What's a good (get to work and get home) shifting point to drive with everyday sort of thing? I shift around 2.5k rpm. Maybe I'm not revving her up alot, but it seems like she's pushing real hard. Just need the advice I guess!

You can shift at 2500rpm. In first gear I normally shift 3000-4000rpm cuz it is so short and then in the next gears normally not as high, in just normal everyday driving.

By the Way I got an Si tranny.

I have a dx sedan and i cant chirp second, but i also have tires that are a little bigger than standard on the front and i weigh 300... maybe thats why...

Oh well its not a bad thing if you can't chirp 2nd, or is it??? I heard some place that it actually wasn't good for your car, but who knows.

Oh well its not a bad thing if you can't chirp 2nd, or is it??? I heard some place that it actually wasn't good for your car, but who knows.

any time you lose traction when drag racing is never going to really help. to be able to chirp your tires in higher gears is all about bald tires and a good clutch. its just loosing traction.

I normally shift between 3,000-4,000rpm's

Losing traction means slower times

Any time the drive/power train is jolted from something like a "chirp" or incorrect downshift that is very hard on these parts. Slamming gears is not a good thing either. When shifting think the shift knob is an egg - gentle & smooth Quick but not fast.

I normally shift between 3,000-4,000rpm's

Losing traction means slower times

Any time the drive/power train is jolted from something like a "chirp" or incorrect downshift that is very hard on these parts. Slamming gears is not a good thing either. When shifting think the shift knob is an egg - gentle & smooth Quick but not fast.

Yeah I know losing traction means slower times but thats what I was talking about, the 2nd thing you said about how whenever its jolted its hard on the parts. I know its better to have traction, but I was trying to say that, but just didnt get it out right, lol.

So what you guys are saying is that you normally shift around 3000 to 4000 rpm? I know I can do that, but is it safe for the engine to shift at those rpms because it revs high for 2500 rpm. I just don't want to hurt it, but I do want to take advantage of the okay to shift at those rpms!

After reading Shaguar47's post at work this afternoon, I decided to try and force myself to shift at 2500RPM's on the drive home. I did it exactly three times before I said "screw this" and shifted like I normally do. I shift between 4-5k. I paid attention to it and most of my shifts were right at 4200RPM's. Some were over 5k, but only when I was accelerating hard, like getting on the freeway.

I've never been afraid to run my rev's high on my Si. It seems to eat 'em up!

cheers

But you have an si and it's way different the base model. Is it okay for my car to shift at 3k to 4k rpm?

It's perfectly fine to shift @ 3-4,000RPM. Your engines powerband doesn't start until it's around 4,000rpm anyway.

Yeop. Its really hard with an Si tranny cuz its geared short compared to the 4speed.

I just shift whenever I hear the engine gettin louder than my music...around 3-3.5

lol ever since I got my exhaust quieted down that could be quite a ways up int he RPM's, especially if I have my music up loud, which i like to do at times.

I just shift whenever I hear the engine gettin louder than my music...around 3-3.5

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Sometimes I wish my trans had a 1.5 gear, that 1st is too short. I use 2nd gear from stops a little too much, burnin' up my clutch in the process.

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Sometimes I wish my trans had a 1.5 gear, that 1st is too short. I use 2nd gear from stops a little too much, burnin' up my clutch in the process.
lol I hear ya, I wish I had a 6th gear, cuz on trips, 4-4.5 gets hella loud, wish I could drop it to 6th and have it be like 3...thatd be nice

:iagree: 80mph @ 4,000RPM in 5th.

:iagree: 80mph @ 4,000RPM in 5th.
I hate it, thats why I wanna get my new muffler on and get my silencer in for long trips.

Yeop. Its really hard with an Si tranny cuz its geared short compared to the 4speed.

So true, so true. Again this morning on the way to work I shifted at 2500 thru 5th gear. I was at 42MPH in fifth. I also would love a 1.5 gear.. stop and go traffic with the Si tranny is not alot of fun.

heh i'm like in 2nd all the time i'm going to miss it when i got a Y1 lol also STD powerband*if you wanta call it that* starts more like 3k

any time you lose traction when drag racing is never going to really help. to be able to chirp your tires in higher gears is all about bald tires and a good clutch. its just loosing traction.

I don't really think that's right. Being able to chirp tires is not a sign of bald tires. It's just the opposite; the tires are catching traction. When the tires chirp; for instance, from 1st to 2nd, the chirping sound is the power travelling through ur tires and the power being put to the ground. There's a difference if they're slipping between shifts or if your wheels hop...but if they chirp, they catch traction. It would be good if you could chirp all gears, then ur getting perfect traction between shifts. If they hop or slip...no traction.

This is something I didn't know. You see, I'm used to driving low gear cars with alot of torque (GEO Storm GSI) and with my civic, I just felt as if it shifted real good at 2.5k rpm. But whay you guys are saying is safe, then man oh man. Where the hell have I been!