6bolt swap details
dsmodder
04-12-2004, 12:44 AM
hey im thinkin about doin the 6 bolt swap into my 97 gsx. magnus motorsports offers a kit do to it with everything you need for 1500. basically what i need to kno is.... does the swap use the 2g head and just get rid of the block? so id have to get a 1g block and save my 2g head? or is it all 1g. also, if it is all 1g, would components such as intake for a 2g bolt up on a 1g??
kjewer1
04-12-2004, 03:29 AM
You can use the 2g head, but you will have to bore out the stud holes. 7 bolt block uses 11mm studs, and 6 bolt block uses 12mm studs. ;) What do you mean by intake. If you mean the manifold, a 1g head requires a 1g manifold.
dsmodder
04-14-2004, 01:29 AM
basically i have a 2g with 100,000 miles on it and when the engine quits i wanna swap in a souped up 6 bolt engine. until my 7 bolt quits. i wanna throw on an intake for it and was wonderin if it would work on my new 6 bolt. im thinkin about makin my own intake tho and replacin the piece of shit MAS with either a HKS VPC or some translater off of dsmparts i think. the vpc looks badass but you have to have them program this rom shit. im leanin towards this GM MAF with the translater. any suggestions.
JoeWagon
04-14-2004, 01:41 AM
MAFt instead of VPC. Put it in the intercooler pipes, too.
Julioluko
04-14-2004, 02:03 AM
Hey Bro i just wrote up a 7 page proceedure on how to do this swap, so hold on a week for me to throw it on the internet, (I'm really busy right now with work and school) but I'll get it on here soon enough. lata
dsmodder
04-17-2004, 02:15 AM
upper or lower intercooler pipe joe?
dsmodder
04-17-2004, 02:16 AM
oh and also is there a way i could mount my bov so taht it vents to the atmospher with this MAFt setup in intercooler pipes and so it doenst mess up anythin....
EclipseRST
04-17-2004, 03:56 AM
yea just remove the dump tube... but is your BOV stock?
dsmodder
04-17-2004, 02:13 PM
yea its stock 2g hah but i might get a hks for free haha
JoeWagon
04-17-2004, 05:10 PM
Yes. If you put the MAF in the UICP, it's called 'blow-through', and you can vent all day with no harmful affects. If you get a new UICP to do the MAF with, please make sure not to put the 2g back on it :) If you don't get the HKS, use a 1g used for under 50 bucks.
dsmodder
04-20-2004, 05:42 PM
cool thanks but joe 1 more ? where is the best place to mount the bov. close or far from the intake mainfold?
JoeWagon
04-20-2004, 06:39 PM
I don't think it matters, but I'd put it where the stock one is, because that's exactly how long your existing vacuum lines already are.
If you aren't recirculating, you'll put it before the MAF, so between the SMIC and MAF.
If you ARE recirculating, put it where the stock one was, so you don't have to buy a new BOV return hose... unless the recirc port of the BOV is larger than stock.
If you aren't recirculating, you'll put it before the MAF, so between the SMIC and MAF.
If you ARE recirculating, put it where the stock one was, so you don't have to buy a new BOV return hose... unless the recirc port of the BOV is larger than stock.
dsmodder
04-22-2004, 01:33 AM
im kinda confused. so from the turbo.. nothing in the lower ic piping. after the intercooler then the bov? then the MAF. and how far would you put all this from the throttle body.
JoeWagon
04-22-2004, 02:12 AM
Here's a picture of a blowthrough UICP from Dejon Tool:
http://www.dejontool.com/images/DSM-2g%20SMIC/UIP-2gD.JPG
http://www.dejontool.com/images/DSM-2g%20SMIC/UIP-2gD.JPG
dsmodder
04-22-2004, 05:23 PM
cool thank you
dsmodder
04-25-2004, 04:48 PM
hey joe.... and im puttin all this blow through and MASt stuff together on paper i was wonder... with a 1g 4g63 in my 2 eclipse. do most of the parts for the 1g engine work in a 2g engine bay??? like say for example which blowthrough UICP from Dejon Tool would i use a 2g or 1g? basically i need to kno the overall picture of what a 1g would look like in a 2g engine bay. would an exaust manifold for a 1g engine fit in a 2g bay?? stuff like that.
JoeWagon
04-25-2004, 05:25 PM
I'm not sure about the UICP because it has to route like a 1g engine, but fit in the 2g bay. I'd ask SBR which. Make sure to tell them if you're on the stock sidemount or a FMIC. Kevin would know, I'm sure.
1g exhaust manifold should fit in a 2g bay. Most everything will, except for stuff that's routed precicely around the bay, like a UICP.
1g exhaust manifold should fit in a 2g bay. Most everything will, except for stuff that's routed precicely around the bay, like a UICP.
dsmodder
04-25-2004, 08:00 PM
right on thanks for all the help
EclipseRST
04-26-2004, 03:43 AM
i have a 2g UICP in my gst right now with the 6 bolt and it fits fine, but if you were talking about a 1g i couldnt tell ya... as for the manifold, yes a 1g manifold will fit but if you got a 2g manifold, use that, little better flow!!!
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