metro performance......

ok, i have looked and looked for ways to make my metro 1.0 have a little more "nut" instead of tha 55hp it has. so far i have come across getting tha 3 cyl turbo motor from a pontiac firefly or chevy sprint and dropping that in, for a gain of 15 hp. i figured i would because than i have a turbo and everything to work with instead of guessing around. but besides that, is there any other way to make legal hp focused on the g10? also i live in nh and suspension is a big key to me, i havent found any swaybars/struts/springs for the geo. h&r does make springs, but they lower it too much. for suspension im mainly looking for a close to oem height but with stiffer springs and definetly stiffer struts. if anyone can help in anyway it would be much appreciated

-lucky

Not sure if you have heard of this website, but maybe you could find a few preformance upgrades at http://www.geopartstore.com/

OMG... Why even try to make a geo go faster? Even if you could find the parts to make more hp and have better handling it is the WORST platform to start out on. First its a 1.0L!!! The only car with anywhere close to that displacement thats worth anything is the RX-7 (and RX;2-3-5-and 8's), (1.3L) and that really doesnt count because its a ROTARY motor. If you want somthing faster or somthing that handles go buy somthing else. If you looking to spend very little heres a small list of GREAT cars to start with: good RWD cars are; Nissan 240sx, Nissan 300zx, Mazda RX-7, Toyota MR2, or BMW 3 series (E30, the older ones). Good FWD cars are the Integra. Civic, Accord (older 2 doors are nice), eclipse, talon (TSI's are AWD and are great, if you can find one) and im sure theres more because I dont really pay much attetion to the FWD geanra. But you should notice one thing... THERE ISNT A SINGLE GEO IN THERE... much less domestic... but domestics arent bad either... you can get cars like a fox body mustang or older camero IROC Z or lots of cars... just dont try and modify a GEO... its pointless... they were slow... are slow... and forever will be... SLOW.

thanks dorkula, ill check out tha site tomorrow. as for rb i own a 90 240sx that will be parked for a while because im workin on alot of stuff on it at once. the reason i want more hp in tha geo isnt to make it go fast or handle good to be cool. if u read a little better i wanted to make it handle better because of hills, sharp turns, and potholes all at once. i want more hp in it so i can get up the hills i live on in a higher gear and/or at a lower rpm. some hills i have to go up in 3rd gear doing 50mph and loseing speed. i got a better car that im working on to make faster, im only workin on the geo because its my daily driver, and to get up hills a little easier and basically make the ride around my house a little more enjoyable.

as far as your list of cars go, fwd sucks, hondas suck even more, and newer mopar sucks lol.
like i wrote im not "modding" the car or "pimpin it out" im only simply puttin or tryin to put more hp in it for driving reasons. my nissan on the other hand i have plenty of work to do
stickin with tha ka24e but puttin a turbo and intercooler on it (nothing big) intake blah blah blah lmtd slip in rear, silvia front end, kouki tailights and wing, re-doing the interior etc..... all over a time period of at most 2 yrs.

I plan on pimpin out a geo, just to see how fast I can get one to go, for the fun of it.

I do respect your opinion kouki, but I believe you are being a little too rude about it. Please, next time try to construct your criticism instead of trying to meanlessly bash somone. I am sure that somone can find just as many things wrong with your car of choice just as you do with our car of choice.

The cars you listed are fun cars, no doubt. Please don't take my words to harshly, they where only meant to express MY opinion, and where not meant to spark any kind of flame war.

Hey, I love vehicles, no matter the type.

- Anthony

well then dorkula, u might be able to help me, i do plan on putting the 3 cyl turbo motor into my metro, and oviously i need the motor and ecu, but what else would i need for the swap? im guessing i need probibly a different "downpipe" and im guessing theres wirin to do but i cant find sufficent enough info as to exactly what i need.
as far as u pimpin out ur geo keep me posted because its definetly different and id like to know how your doin
-lucky

I think you'd be a lot more satisified with a 1.3L DOHC suzuki swift motor conversion. The 3cyl turbo only puts out 74hp, vs the stock 52. The dohc 1.3L would be the same amount of work, and 100hp. And there are tons of bolt on mods available for it. You can see my old convertible if you check out my cardomain link in my sig. Or go to www.teamswift.net. There's tons of info on this swap. I'm also gonna make a 1.3L swap instruction manual when I get my new vert.

ill def check tha site out tomorrow, gotta go to sleep tonight lol. but i would assume that switching to the dohc would be more work, because not only do i gotta replace the ecu, which is tha easy part, but i also would have a lot more wiring to do. again im completly a noob to geo work so ill believe you and read about it first before making a decision. and would it be easier to find tha sprint/firefly motor or is the swift more readliy accesable??
-lucky

Yes i was a bit harsh... sorry... and yes FWD SUCKS! (why I listed RWD first) but hey... I havent been able to convince one FWD junky to get a RWD car yet. Its funny, most honda kids think that FWD is better for some reason, ive heard everything from "the engine is in the front and so is all the weight and that puts all the weight on the front tires giving you more traction", to "you cant oversteer in a FWD". I could go on about why they are wrong but you all know what id say. But anyway congrats on having a 240... used to want to buy one but then i bought an RX7 but i still have this name. Only thing is that the US KA24E is not a strong motor... even if your not going "big". I know everyone does it but the SR is the better choice and the RB is the best but its expensive and harder to do. I knew a guy that had a turbo KA with 10psi of boost... a week later the block cracked. But anyway its your car and you can do what you want and i HAVE heard of good success with the KA. Drive on.

lucky, in my part of this little ball of vibrating atoms we call earth, the metro/sprint/fly is way more plentiful than the swift. this is a bummer, there are maybe three or four swifts, in comparison to a couple hundred of the 3 cylinder cars. sooo, for me, the natural choice is the 3 raging cylinders of screaming death. putt putt putt.

Otherwise, one day, when I have both time and money to spare, I will ship in a couple of DOHC swift engines, and have some fun. til then, putt putt putt......

Have fun with the car, they are great.

Before suzuki started doing the 1.3l engines, they had a turbo that worked with the 1.0l engines. They where fairly popular in canada from what I read. I am having my geo shipped this weekend. I will do some shopping around for turbos in a week or so, and will post what I find.

- Anthony

P.S. Since I am fairly new to this, how much work are we talking about with this engine swap (swapping the 1.0 with the 1.3)?

- Anthony

Sorry for the TRIPLE post, but I think the fin to a car is made to help out FWD cars. I do not know for sure, but from the looks, it looks as though the wind while driving would cause the rear of the car (where the fin is) to be pushed toward the ground, giving more traction. Not sure though.

- Anthony

FWD cars have by default, a weakness in the tranny. They have to cram everything, and a differential in that casing. They understeer really bad unless you have an LSD, and love to break motor mounts. But, if you live in a snowy area like me, be glad you have fwd.. cause rwd sucks REALLY bad in the snow. They did make the suzuki swift's in an awd version overseas.
On the subject of the swap. I bought my first swift donor car for $200. Find a junkyard with a wrecked swift GTi, and strip it. You'll need all the wiring, fuel pump, axles, hubs, brakes, bigger rims, engine mounts, i'd take the tranny too, and it has rear disc brakes. A fun upgrade. It also has recaro seats, and a nicer steering wheel. A whole parts car would be a lot more help than just the engine.

to rb yea i like rx7's too but theres more rx7s then 240s in my area so i went with the car less used. i thought about an sr20 or even a ca18 to go in it but its hard to find parts for it on the northeast, and the parts i can buy cost way too much which is why ill be sticking with the ka24.
and between pinds post and geozuki (also i saw your metro on cardomain.com geozuki, i liked it too bad what happened.) it seems there will be less work to put the 3cyl turbo in then the dohc. if i was keeping the metro for performance purposes i would definetly swap in the dohc, but because this is my winter/all year round car im not looking to put a lot of time and money into making it fast, just a lil to give it more power. so between work, money, and abundance ill be sticking with the putt putt putt lol.
and geo i also know what snow is like living in new hampshire, and i did have to drive my 240 one winter and it does suck, can be fun but does suck lol. again thank you everyone for all the input.
if anyone can help me in anyway on getting info on the 3cyl turbo swap itll be most appreciated, again thanks!!!
-lucky


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