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evostisrt4
04-05-2004, 05:55 PM
i recently got 40k from a downfall and i need a new car so what do u suggest a sti or a srt4?
help plz http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/banghead.gif

evostisrt4
04-05-2004, 05:59 PM
I need help i recently got a 40k downfall and i need a new car with evo out of question(my friend has one and wont let me get one) Which car is better? why?
:banghead:

LjasonL
04-05-2004, 06:11 PM
How the heck is this even a question? I could see how some people might like the SRT4 over the regular WRX, but the STi??? C'mon now...

I'll tell you what I would do if I had $40,000 thrown at me... I'd probably spend some on the car I already have, but instead of going out and wasting it all on a brand new car, I'd put the rest into an investment somewhere it will actually make me money. Then perhaps in the future you wouldn't have to choose, you could buy both.

evostisrt4
04-05-2004, 06:19 PM
i dont have a car i wreked my eclipse (wich was widebody ) and the cluch line snapped i need a new car!!! ALOT of peeps say that the srt4 is a wiser choice cuz it is cheaper and becouse with 5k ull make it have 300hp

Calebz
04-05-2004, 06:23 PM
Yeah .. the SRT4 is fabulous.. If you want a cheap disposable front wheel drive car

Theres no comparison between the 2 cars you have listed.. The STi out classes the SRT4 in every possible way, with the exception of the fact that the STi doesn't come with a stereo

And yes, I have driven both of them

evostisrt4
04-05-2004, 06:28 PM
ya fullyloaded it is bout 35k and srt4 is bout 22k with everything and 25k with the stage 2 mopar turbo toyz making it push 300hp and my friend got smoked last week in his evo with a rolling start by the srt4 with the stage 2

LjasonL
04-05-2004, 06:53 PM
ya fullyloaded it is bout 35k and srt4 is bout 22k with everything and 25k with the stage 2 mopar turbo toyz making it push 300hp and my friend got smoked last week in his evo with a rolling start by the srt4 with the stage 2

$35,000 maybe at your local dealership, but that's not how much they cost. And there is no way you're gonna get an SRT4 to do everything an STi will do with $10,000 in mods. Not to mention, even if you did, you're comparing a car with $10,000 in mods to a stock car. That should tell you something.

Neutrino
04-05-2004, 08:28 PM
well first of all friends do not have the right to deny you a 30K car unles they are buying one for you. they can give you advice but you have the final say.

IMO the EVO is the best car of the three

But anyway back to your question. If you plan insane power levels out of the engine the SRT4 and the EVO are much better in that regard since they do have closed deck iron blocks as oposed to the sleeved open deck aluminum block in the STI.

On the other hand the STI will have a better drivetrain. And its clealy better stock.

But here is another thing to consider you could buy the srt4 or some other car even cheaper and save the rest of 20K or more for inverstments or college.


BTW make sure you don't pay with all the money down so you could build some credit.

freakonaleash1187
04-05-2004, 08:36 PM
there isnt any comparison between these two cars. the only thing the the srt-4 might have against the sti is the price. but if you have the money to buy either one, so get the sti. but dont get blue because i see that too much.

96berettakid
04-05-2004, 09:32 PM
Out of the 2, I'd get the Sti. Maybe I'm the only one though, but if I had 40 grand to burn, I'd be getting a Cobra. Maybe it's just me.

dayna240sx
04-05-2004, 11:59 PM
I think 300 hp is quite enough for a person who doesnt know the difference between an srt4 and an sti...

If I was in your shoes, I'd buy an M3, either used or put your 40K down and take the rest out to build your credit.

How old are you btw?

FDTT
04-06-2004, 03:33 AM
WRX and invest the rest. If you really want to hit the 300hp mark you could do it with a WRX and 2k or so. And then invest the rest.

Zwrangler
04-06-2004, 04:46 AM
lol, if its all about just getting 300hp you could just get a camaro for like $6000 and that would have 300hp to begin with. its obviously not an issue of power here its an issue of which car you prefer and thats a personal taste thing not something that everyone can argue about and say "you're wrong" or "this is better", its all personal taste.

You may be too young to actually take their advice kid, but the older members who suggested you invest some of this money are right. If i were in your shoes i'd get a wrx or maaaaybe a used STI if i could get one for cheap and still save some cash. be wise about it and .......... I can't believe i'm saying this but... don't go spending it all on a car :p

BP2K2Max
04-06-2004, 10:58 AM
Out of the 2, I'd get the Sti. Maybe I'm the only one though, but if I had 40 grand to burn, I'd be getting a Cobra. Maybe it's just me.
definitely just you. i would either buy an m3 like dayna said or i'd save it for a down payment on a 2007 R35 skyline.

evostisrt4
04-06-2004, 04:35 PM
im 16 and i dont kare about 300hp but thats what seems is the only way ill beat my friend who has a evo and i really like the srt4 so plz tell me what u whould rather have me do im getting my car by next weekend

MR2Driver
04-06-2004, 05:03 PM
The STI can apply the power better using all of its wheels. The more power you add the the FWD SRT-4 and the more it understeers on throttle, the harder it is the launch, and the more your tires will spin.

FWD cars have a low limit to how much HP can make it undrivable. The STI is a superior car, and the EVO has more power potential and aftermarket for the 4G63 engine.

LjasonL
04-06-2004, 05:47 PM
and i really like the srt4

Answered your own question. Have fun.

P.S. Life isn't about beating your friends.

BP2K2Max
04-06-2004, 09:30 PM
if i had had a 300 hp car at 16 i probably wouldn't be here right now. buy a lil somthing to keep you occupied and mobile and save as much of that as you can for college.

freakonaleash1187
04-06-2004, 10:00 PM
i wish i could afford a sti at the age of 16. i can barely afford a $6,500 nissan 300zx. and i also agree with bp2k2max on that somebody as young as you (and me) shouldnt have a powerful car right at the bat.

YukiHime
04-06-2004, 11:33 PM
Can't you just wait until the B4 come over to the States?

drftk1d
04-06-2004, 11:48 PM
im 16 and i dont kare about 300hp but thats what seems is the only way ill beat my friend who has a evo and i really like the srt4 so plz tell me what u whould rather have me do im getting my car by next weekend

If you wanna beat your friend, fuck an srt 4, fuck a sti, buy a bat.
Its only like 20 dollars and you can use it to smash his headlights as well as his head.

evostisrt4
04-07-2004, 01:07 AM
Can't you just wait until the B4 come over to the States? what in the hell is that and BTW i can handle 300hpive already had a supra tt but it got stolen and then i had a eclipse wich wasnt 300hp but was pretty fast(awd) (wreked it )

freakonaleash1187
04-07-2004, 06:42 AM
what in the hell is that and BTW i can handle 300hpive already had a supra tt but it got stolen and then i had a eclipse wich wasnt 300hp but was pretty fast(awd) (wreked it )

so, how did you wreck your eclipse?

dayna240sx
04-07-2004, 08:01 AM
if you cant handle an eclipse, why the hell do you want something faster? So you can kill yourself?

Alldar
04-07-2004, 08:54 AM
what in the hell is that and BTW i can handle 300hpive already had a supra tt but it got stolen and then i had a eclipse wich wasnt 300hp but was pretty fast(awd) (wreked it )
you cant haddle it if you "wrek" it

rabid652
04-07-2004, 08:59 AM
you've gotta be kidding me....

srt4girl2
04-07-2004, 09:21 AM
$35,000 maybe at your local dealership, but that's not how much they cost. And there is no way you're gonna get an SRT4 to do everything an STi will do with $10,000 in mods. Not to mention, even if you did, you're comparing a car with $10,000 in mods to a stock car. That should tell you something.


thats funny....i dont really want to start anything, but we have pulled on a few sti`s...not to mention a long list of other cars nobody thought the srt4 could beat....and we have put about $3000 into our srt so far, but hopefully by my birthday(september) we will have a 550hp srt! i'll keep you guys updated...

Neutrino
04-07-2004, 09:29 AM
thats funny....i dont really want to start anything, but we have pulled on a few sti`s...not to mention a long list of other cars nobody thought the srt4 could beat....and we have put about $3000 into our srt so far, but hopefully by my birthday(september) we will have a 550hp srt! i'll keep you guys updated...


well srtgurl pulled on a viper with a 12.6 with only 1500 in mods with an open diff i might add. So with 3000 in mods i'm sure youre pretty quik.

I hope you got the stage 3 coilovers too, if not you need too;)

youngvr4
04-07-2004, 12:33 PM
16 in a sti = injury. sti is simply faster than a srt4 with the same drivers or with 2 good drivers
13.7 to 13.1. i'll just say the sti is safer than him getting like a cobra, rwd is a lot more dangerous than awd. either way he shouldn't be jumping inside either, but when i was 16 i would have wanted to do the same thing

freakonaleash1187
04-07-2004, 03:26 PM
thats funny....i dont really want to start anything, but we have pulled on a few sti`s...not to mention a long list of other cars nobody thought the srt4 could beat....and we have put about $3000 into our srt so far, but hopefully by my birthday(september) we will have a 550hp srt! i'll keep you guys updated...

550 hp fwd car!!!! i would like to see how you guys pull this off. unless i have been hearing wrong this entire time, a high horsepower front-wheel drive is bad news.

Neutrino
04-07-2004, 03:32 PM
550 hp fwd car!!!! i would like to see how you guys pull this off. unless i have been hearing wrong this entire time, a high horsepower front-wheel drive is bad news.

you can handle them. you just have to know how to launch.

Plus you have to realise that a proper setup will push vay less boost in 1st gear so you have way less than 550 Hp to worry about at start.

LjasonL
04-07-2004, 04:35 PM
thats funny....i dont really want to start anything, but we have pulled on a few sti`s...not to mention a long list of other cars nobody thought the srt4 could beat....and we have put about $3000 into our srt so far, but hopefully by my birthday(september) we will have a 550hp srt! i'll keep you guys updated...

Oh I never said you couldn't "pull" on an STi with the $10,000 in mods (and I knew someone was gonna say this).

I said you can't make the SRT4 do everything the STi can with the $10,000.

Can you make it AWD for thos bad weather days or back road drives?
Can you make it run the same times on an unprepared street surface as it does at the track?
Can you make it pull a 1.7 60' on true street tires (no drag radials!)
Can you make it pass a crash safety test with 5 stars?
Can you give it a 6 speed transmission for more flexibility on the road course or street?
Can you strike fear (or at least respect) into the hearts of auto enthusiats worldwide with the mere mention of your cars name and it's history?

Uhh actually I think those alone are enough to prove my point, without even getting into the rest of the stuff you get with a stock STi.

The SRT4 is a good car for the money, but can you honestly say if I held out the keys to one in one hand, and the keys to an STi in the other, you'd take the SRT4?

evostisrt4
04-07-2004, 08:00 PM
i got rear ended so belive me i can handle it it wasnt my fault and i can handle it no prob i ran 12.9 easy so dont tell me what i can and cant handle

freakonaleash1187
04-07-2004, 10:30 PM
it sounds like your are getting upset. please dont get upset. what kind of car did you run a 12.9 in?

evostisrt4
04-07-2004, 11:41 PM
eclipse gsx

96berettakid
04-08-2004, 08:31 PM
16 year olds running 12.9's... no wonder my insurance is so freakin high.

BP2K2Max
04-08-2004, 10:24 PM
considering you have to be 16 to get a license, you're going on your 3rd car since you turned 16 and YOU'RE STILL 16 i'd say hold off on the $35,000 sports cars. that's the problem with getting top of the line cars so young. there's no where to move but up. no one wants to go from a fast car to a slower car. at this rate you'll be in a ferrari by 21.

Skyline_R32_Canada
04-08-2004, 11:33 PM
:bs:

i dont believe this horseshit for one second, do you really think this kid had a supra tt and an eclipse gsx and he is asking US whether or not to pick the srt-4/sti????

first he gets his supra stolen, then his eclipse wrecked...any parents whos kid got a car stolen/wrecked wouldn't let him drive for years.

evostisrt4
04-09-2004, 12:40 AM
k just to let u know u can drive at 15 in LV and my parnts dont care the insurance payed for it thats how i got the 40k ( and i have no tickets) a clean record so dont tell me what i should and shouldnt be driving i also have a job at discover card and make a stedyt liveing (apx 1000) a month on 25 hours a week so that is how my parents dont give a shit i pay 4 everything my self


Damn! i work hard 4 my money! and i should be able to drive a ferarri at 21

ledfut
04-09-2004, 05:48 AM
I'm tooling along in the fast lane south of Atlanta on I-85 at about 80 mph. There is about 2 car lengths between me and a truck in the adjacent lane. I see a white car coming up v-e-r-y fast in the middle lane behind the truck. I'm thinking to myself "If he tries to cut in front of me, He'll lose control or hit me or the truck." He cuts in front of me doing probably 100 mph pulling off the lane change like he's on rails. Incredible! I'm a believer after witnessing that. If I had a cool 35 grand, I'd be driving one too! Go with the WRX.

dayna240sx
04-09-2004, 08:02 AM
:bs:

i dont believe this horseshit for one second, do you really think this kid had a supra tt and an eclipse gsx and he is asking US whether or not to pick the srt-4/sti????

first he gets his supra stolen, then his eclipse wrecked...any parents whos kid got a car stolen/wrecked wouldn't let him drive for years.


I'm having a hard time beliving this too. Why did the insurance company give you 40K for getting rear ended? My sister got rearended in my dads car a year ago and they just gave her what the car was worth. I know your eclipse isnt worth 40K.

BP2K2Max
04-09-2004, 08:49 AM
Damn! i work hard 4 my money! and i should be able to drive a ferarri at 21
good, you can sell me your used STI (which is what you should get) for a good price when you get it, right?


i can't say i don't believe you, this kid had a stealth R/T that he blew the motor up in and then him and his parents were talking about getting a evo all before he was 17. if what you say is true, good for you. being that you'll buying the car yourself it should be more incentive for you to keep it safe.

kfoote
04-09-2004, 09:44 AM
When I was looking at cars last year, the SRT4 never even crossed my mind as a potential car to get. The two problems as I see them with these choices are that the STi has some very strange handling characteristics that no other car I have ever driven has (including the WRX) that are related to the differentials, and a 300+ HP FWD car will have silly amounts of tourque steer, neither of which are particularly good situations. The safest bet for a driver without track experience (I'm talking road course or significant auto-x experience here), would be a modded standard WRX.

evostisrt4
04-09-2004, 11:18 AM
eclipse isnt worth that much nut together with a supra and my own money it equals exacly 40k

Skyline_R32_Canada
04-10-2004, 09:29 AM
I'm having a hard time beliving this too. Why did the insurance company give you 40K for getting rear ended? My sister got rearended in my dads car a year ago and they just gave her what the car was worth. I know your eclipse isnt worth 40K.

i rest my case

aznxthuggie
04-10-2004, 01:54 PM
what in the hell is that and BTW i can handle 300hpive already had a supra tt but it got stolen and then i had a eclipse wich wasnt 300hp but was pretty fast(awd) (wreked it )

the b4 (i think whay yukihime is talking about) is the subaru legacy b4, in the us it should make 250hp turbo, its a pretty crazy car, just think its between the wrx and the sti, but its a legacy with a hood scoop lol

and i doubt u had a tt supra, because with that kinna money i wouldn't buy anything slower, also if it got jacked, its still faster than any car u talked about, im jus sayin supra owners tend to stay supra owners

youngvr4
04-10-2004, 02:56 PM
not true, i have a vr4 and i was just about to buy a concorde, lol

evostisrt4
04-10-2004, 05:12 PM
ya i was only gonna get a eclipse to be a temporary car at first then i had it for 6 mmonths and had some minor upgrades put on now that i have all muy money put together im gettin a new car

dayna240sx
04-10-2004, 05:28 PM
I'd get an STi if I had a porky supra. The STi is faster too.

evostisrt4
04-20-2004, 05:13 PM
ya i no the sti is killer thats why I GOT IT
my dealership just got the 05's and i love driving it everysecond of it i alreagy have 855miles on it
i love it ( by the way killed 2 evos already and 1 srt4)

youngvr4
04-20-2004, 05:35 PM
I'd get an STi if I had a porky supra. The STi is faster too.

faster than the supra? oh you mean faster than the srt4?

Polygon
04-20-2004, 05:44 PM
The SRT4 is a good car for the money, but can you honestly say if I held out the keys to one in one hand, and the keys to an STi in the other, you'd take the SRT4?

Yes, yes I can.

dayna240sx
04-20-2004, 09:01 PM
faster than the supra? oh you mean faster than the srt4?

The STi is faster than a supra

STi
0-60: 4.9
1/4 Mile: 13.2
1/4 Speed: 105

Supra
0-60: 5
1/4 Mile: 13.6
1/4 Speed: 105

evostisrt4
04-20-2004, 10:02 PM
thx i love the sti and i want to race a supa i raced a older model rx7 and killed it wow wasnt even funny so if n e one in az area has supra and wants to race tell me

kfoote
04-21-2004, 09:52 AM
ya i no the sti is killer thats why I GOT IT
my dealership just got the 05's and i love driving it everysecond of it i alreagy have 855miles on it
i love it ( by the way killed 2 evos already and 1 srt4)

Hmmm, does this mean you didn't follow the break-in procedure for the engine? :nono:

youngvr4
04-21-2004, 01:51 PM
The STi is faster than a supra

STi
0-60: 4.9
1/4 Mile: 13.2
1/4 Speed: 105

Supra
0-60: 5
1/4 Mile: 13.6
1/4 Speed: 105

ok, wanna magazine race, supra tt in 93 was run at 13.1 in the 1320 in car and driver at a track

http://mkiv.com/publications/car&driver/3_93/6-cd3-93.jpg

wanna go by likely hood, you see supra's run 13.5 at the track same way you see sti's and evo-8 run 13.5 at the track. wanna talk about high speed.......ummm..........lets not go there, we all know the supra will kill the sti on a highway run.

StupidBrodie
04-21-2004, 04:25 PM
unless its raining out :P

evostisrt4
04-21-2004, 05:06 PM
ya ok but i race from stop and some one tell me what the brake in procedures are cuz i was never told about them lol

kfoote
04-21-2004, 05:12 PM
ya ok but i race from stop and some one tell me what the brake in procedures are cuz i was never told about them lol

They're in the owner's manual, though it's probably too late now, which you should have read before doing much of anything with the car. If you can't be botherred to actually read the owner's manual, you probably aren't responsible enough to be driving ANY new car, let alone an STi.

evostisrt4
04-21-2004, 09:58 PM
Ooh Oops Sorry My Foult Oh Well Does It Really Matter? What Can Go Wrong ? What Is The Point Ooh Well I Got A Sti~!!!!!

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