Automatic or Manual

I am purchasing a 1990 Toyota celica GT; its a good deal. But it is an automatic should i put body kit on and scoop and wing and fix engine. Or should I drive it sell it, then fix the next car thats a manual. If do it I need advice on how to get horses. I need all the advice I can get from people who know. By the way it is the 2.2 lt DOHC with 135 horses stock and 140 t. What intakes exhaust ? what to do.

well the newer ones it dont really matter what tranny cuz its still fast but i dont know bout older models

well the newer ones it dont really matter what tranny cuz its still fast but i dont know bout older models

haha not true... manual is alwyas better... if u raced stock for stock jsut about necar auto vs manual with good drivers then manual would win hands down

I dont see anything wrong with either, but personally I prefer driving a manual, its a lot funner

I dont see anything wrong with either, but personally I prefer driving a manual, its a lot funner

manual is 10x better

cept when your goign to san francisco for a perfect circle concert with only 2 months of clutch driving and a chredded pressure plate.... that shit is no fun

im jus saying though, if you got the same car yeah the manual would be faster because of the shift ratio, but if its a celica auto and a civiv manual,same driver, the celica's tiem would beat it

MANUAL is the only way to go man...if your going to make a car bad ass(ie. body kit, rims, interior, ect.) you have to haveit manual...i make fun of every car i see thats euroed out and is auto. an automatic transmission takes 10% of your power instantly...like if you have an auto and u dyno it they say to add 10% power to it to make up for the loss...and also if you do it right a manual transmission shifts WAY faster than an auto. you can also choose when to shift it...3,000...or 7,000....and yes...it is WAY more fun

dude i know manual is a ton better, and its a waste to make anything out of an automatic, i mean the automatic for the celica even costs more, and it does shift faster thats the shift ratio, and its alot funner until traffic picks up. and i watch what goes on with celica's over ebay and everytime i see a tricked car i say that looks nice, then i notice the tranny, if its auto i instantly hit the back key.

haha id have to agree with 00 on that one...try drving to an aperfect cirfcle concert in San francisco 100 miles away from you with only 2 months of clutch experience and on a shredded pressure plate.... thats what u need an auto for

I need some help on how to make it fast anyway because i am going to be driving it for awhile. I totally agree it is way funner. But if you tune your car right no human can possibly shift as fast as a machine

But if you tune your car right no human can possibly shift as fast as a machine

not true...ive mastered speed shifting, shifting withought the clutch.... and i can shift gears in less than a 1/4 of a second.... try having ur automatic beat that

The only thing is can you imagine how your cars feels after all of that? Cars have feelings too ya know :)

haha i dont think it minds... it wont hurt my tranny... unless i grind the gear then that fucks it up hella bad but oh well trannys can be fixed....and wounds can be healed Sypherz
haha

You gotta keep an eye on your syncronizers too, but your right, it can all be fixed one way or the other as long as you can afford it.. I can't so I have to take care of my tranny the best that I can.. I have the ability to speed shift but I try my hardest not to do it, but in the heat of a race you have few other options.. Double clutching out of first and second will definately get you where you wanna be too..

OH NO FNF got u too!!!!!!!!!!! double clutching is a DOWNSHIFT TECHNIQUE not and upshift...gat fast and furious put the idea of doubleclutch upshift into peoples minds

Doubleclutching is a technique to release excess pressure, IE you clutch from 3rd to neutral...rev it to 3000 rms ( or whatever your use to shifting at from 2nd to 3rd) then you clutch in to 2nd gear... makes it so your car dosent jerk and you dont shred the shit outta your flywheel and pressure plate after usign shots of nos or when your running lots of boost
the point is to not lay on yoour clutch so you dont shred the shit outta it

and upshift double clutch is not possible/ not nessicerey... why would you clutch into neutral rev it up and clutch into the next gear when that does the same thign as clutching it into the gear while reving it up

i feel bad...gay fasty n furious

Okay this is what I was taught as double clutching.. first off you launch your car and imeadiately after doing so you press your clutch just enough to let it slip to higher RPM's, close to the redline and release the clutch causeing your wheels to spin or the car to pull harder if your car is tuned right.. Shift into second and let it climb a little, let the clutch slip and the RPM's climb then release.. If your car is tuned for that kind of abuse it gives you a good boost through those first few gears.. I have done it successfully a few times and it can get you places..

Now that is what I was taught, I may be wrong in the name of the technique but like I said I was taught that from someone so I couldn't say they were wrong cause I didn't know.. What 'you' call double clutching I do that as well but didn't have a name for it, in fact I do that a lot going from 5th to 3rd at around 40-50 MPH..

Personally I didn't really get into the F&F movies that much, it was just a movie..

either way they both work :)

ummm no... double clutching was used on older cars where teh syncrones werent as high tech... it was used BOTH for upshifting and down shifting... today's cars dont need to be double clutched due to the technology put into them... the only time it makes sense is when your downshifting now days... shifting into nuetral while slowing down will cause your rpm's to drop quicker enabling you to downshift sooner w/o your rpm's going into the red zone... dont trust anything you see in f&f because they dont know anything... and just pressing the clutch in and then releasing it is just a good way to ruin your clutch and you may feel a boost, but as long as your foot is on the clutch is time lost for you accelerating because when you release the clutch your tires will screech which is loss of traction = not good & slower 1/4 times or wutever kind of racing your doing... and once you release it your rpms will just drop slightly anyways... so basically... that is just stupid :sly:

back to the original question... automatic if you are looking for practical... manual if you are going for speed... how much money do you have to spend? wut is your hp goal? if your looking for 200whp + it is the best to do a 3sgte swap and maybe even an awd conversion for traction...

double clutching isnt good for upshifting cuz all it does is rev your car, not by adding speed, i know alot of people that downshift by just throwing the gearshift to neutral but d-c while upshifting and they fuck their tranny.

and ghetto is right about d-c while downshifting cuz your not runnin down in gear instead your letting your car drop down the way it was made.

and for you morons, d-c is short for double-clutching

hey reverse dont have a syncro does it....thats why u cant put it from 5th to reverse cuz thy wont match up

Quick question.. how is it possible to destroy the reverse gear in an automatic transmission?

by diesel dropping it....going from neutral (or park or forward) to reverse with anything more than 1200 Rpm...

thanks for the info

also being a dum ass an flooring it in reverse.... your tourque converter cant handle the stress