Am I the only one? Go ahead kill yourself...

I love movies and I can see how they inspire a lot of things for people in real life, but for street racing. One of you is going to kill yourself and
someone else that doesn't give a rats ass about your horse power or your bumble bee tail pipe. (believe me I'm trying not to sound harsh)

It is irresponsible to go around trying to get people to race. I know I sound like your grandma right? `

These stories im reading are just stupid. People are always trying to come up and pass you if you pass them. Thats just human nature. That doesn't mean they are trying to race you. Calm down.


But I wil say that the stories I'm reading show a lot of out of control road rage. Strangely some of them seem to end in a "good sport" win/loose situation.

If anyone who runs this forum is responsible they will eliminate this forum topic "Street Racing."

Although If they are responsible - they are only leaving it up so that cops can find you - hint hint anyone - makes ya think and wonder doesn't it?

well, to retort

When your in a field with noone but spectators way off in the distance and the only one you can hurt is you, how is that so irresponsable? How is that any -worse- than when you lie on an application? Tell a date something untrue so they will like you? Not return change when your given too much at the store?

Driving on the freeway at 140 and cutting off people IS dumb, and should be noted as such. I freeway race, when theres noone but me and the other guy.

So please...continue, its your turn :loser:

What the hell....did you come in here just for the sole purpose of bashing street racing? What you have just said is not news to me, or any of us for that matter...We all know the risks associated with street racing, and we don't need you to come in here and reiterate it for us.

well, to retort

When your in a field with noone but spectators way off in the distance and the only one you can hurt is you, how is that so irresponsable? How is that any -worse- than when you lie on an application? Tell a date something untrue so they will like you? Not return change when your given too much at the store?

Driving on the freeway at 140 and cutting off people IS dumb, and should be noted as such. I freeway race, when theres noone but me and the other guy.

So please...continue, its your turn :loser:

Fuck dude, if you want to go out to a secluded lebby road and kill yourself go ahead. If you want to do it when your "freeway race" when there is no one but you and the other guy (and kill yourself) do that. I dont care if you don't see anyone on the freeway. That is not a race track.

In my local community people are killing theselves trying to race eachother "freeway racing."

I am not looking for an arguement I am displaying a statement nor is it arguable in anyway period regardless.

I know I sound like your grandma right?


Hey, Grammy... Shut the pie hole or I'll put you in a nursing home.


In ways, You are correct. Street Racing is irresponsible. And it is dangerous. But there are those of us who will take a particular race out to the boonies where you're literally endangering yourself, your car... and maybe Farmer McCoy's Cow.

Although, that may not be as safe as going to the track. It's as close to it as you can get without having a christmas tree and EMT standing by.

Not all of us live within a easy drive to a track, I used to have one 5 miles away from me. Terminal Island Raceway in the Port of Long Beach. But it was closed, nearly... 9..10 years ago? Now my closest track is Irwindale Speedway. But that's only a 1/8th mile, so the closest 1/4 are Fontana Raceway. It's a good 40-50 minute drive. And it's not always open.

And the reason why we have a 'Street Racing' forum. Is if we didn't, people would post their racing stories all over the forum, cluttering it up. Might as well put them all in one spot.

As stupid as it may sound, Street Racing is a form of Motorsport. It's been around ever since the second automobile was created. And it'll never go away.

I come from hell dude. I have seen people DIE because of it. So I'm gonna have to be a little bitch I guess.

I'm sure cops monitor this forum as well.

When you risk someone else dying not just yourself - which is exactly what you do when you say you know the risks are involved. You are saying "yes I know I could kill someone else as well as myself but I don't care i just want a rush"

we all know cops are on this thread and we say FUCK THE COPS! now to your point. truthfully i dont like streetracing that much as far as doing it i go to a track because i am lucky enough to have one close by. but some people like redneck said arent as fortunate and have to make do and the way i see it is that if they want to race and if by chance they do wreck due to bad driving then fuck it. it was their decision to make and they are happy with it.

we all know cops are on this thread and we say FUCK THE COPS! now to your point. truthfully i dont like streetracing that much as far as doing it i go to a track because i am lucky enough to have one close by. but some people like redneck said arent as fortunate and have to make do and the way i see it is that if they want to race and if by chance they do wreck due to bad driving then fuck it. it was their decision to make and they are happy with it.

Thats fine my point is made. I guess I am the only one who has this opinion - based on these responces. Street Racing does not have enough merit to be able to be bashed. I am not bashing it in that sense because thats what is already happening every day 16, 17 year olds killing themselves - and then 20-25 year olds trying drive like that to - unbelievable.

Actually Its not the movie fandf that I think actually influenced this behavior, I think its just stupidity.

Has there never been a post with similar comments? That seems unreal - I am surprised if thats the case that this thread hasn't been deleted.

Has there never been a post with similar comments? That seems unreal - I am surprised if thats the case that this thread hasn't been deleted.



Of course there has, People all over share your views. In many ways I do too, But I'm not perfect and get drawn into a little street encounter every once in a while.

We wouldn't delete your thread, or ban you. We're not Nazi's. You're entitled to your opinion.

We will however take action against you if you were to openly attack/flame another member. Or if you just spam up the forums with garbage.

Raise your hand if you care?

I mean we all know and understand this things and this is a area to talk about street racing. So if you dislike it so why did you even come here? Just to stir things up? Well thats not welcomed here on AF. If you are just stating your veiws thats fine. But we as street racers most of us know whats too much when to back off and whats really stupid.

Your self-righteousness based off the assumption that you know how all of us act don't impress me much.

In fact it makes me laugh at you.

If you don't care if street racers kill themselves, then why are you here expressing an opinion that obviously shows concerns even though you deny it?

Begone kiddo, I think you just want to start a flame war.

I do agree that street racing in the middle of a city or busy area is stupid. However, If two people want to race in the middle of no where, they are only endangering themselves and that is their choice, just like at a track. Even at a track people on the sidlines can get hurt, if your a spectator of this stuff, then you should dam well know of the danger you are putting yourself in. I for one have never raced on a busy road before and I never plan to. I fear for the woman driving the mini-van with her two children in it. When ever I see someone race on a busy road, I usually pray that a cops see them because they are just being stupid and irresponsible. Bottom line is, we all (should) know the risks of what we do and we do it as safely as possible. just my :2cents:

Why are you preaching about street racing? It seems as if your major point is the fact that you and someone else can die...

1. Lets look at cigarette deaths. God knows what teh ratio of "cig deaths/street racing deaths" is. And hell, cigarettes are legal! (note i am not against smokers in any way or form, nor do i preach against the tobacco industry, this is just a means of comparison)

2. How does a 21 year old street racing differ from a 80 year old going 96 down a highway because she thought that the interstate sign was the speed limit (true story in north carolina)? both more than likely arent the best drivers, so why not preach against old people driving? (once again, im not saying anything against old people)

And hell, it is natural for humans to compete. And you cant argue that fact.

There is nothing inherently moral or immoral about street racing. It is simply an act. Forethought, discipline, and common sense can be employed to reduce risk down to only risking willing participants.

As far as I am concerned, the risk to those who are not participating is the one truly bad thing about street racing. The moment you choose to race on the street, you have acknowledged that you are risking both injury and punishment from the law. You have weighed the level of risk against the desire to race, and if you feel the race beats the risk, then you have waived off the right to complain if anything goes wrong and you are injured, fined, jailed, or killed.

Though please do realize you can't do too much complaining if you are killed.

As far as the safety risks on a country road, I see it as no different than going to a track. You've gone to a location where there are few or no non-participants on the surface, you're aware of the risks, and you weighed if the risks are acceptible.

So long as a person avoids participating in areas with many non-participants, is aware of the risks, and mindfully weighs the risks before participating, then they are a responsible street racer.

Wait, wait... let me see if I understand this.

You came into the street racing forum, and started a thread that bashes on street racing. Is that right? I just want to let you know, that if someone throws shit in your face for it, you deserve it and should have expected it.

Now, as Redneck said, you're entitled to your opinion, but you should expect a lot of criticism posting it here in a manner such as this. Yes, we know it's dangerous but you know what? We do it anyways. Are we stupid? Probably, but you know what? That is OUR choice to deal with, and whatever happens is OUR responsibility, not yours. You're not really informing us of anything new by saying "street racing is dangerous" and I'm completely, 100% sure that no one here is going to quit completely because of your message.

Sorry if I sound like a dick, but it's the street racing forum. This would be like me going into the Ferrari forum and saying "Enzo Ferrari was a fag, all his cars suck and are pieces of crap."(note, I do not think this, it's just an example.) Do you see where I'm coming from?

So long as a person avoids participating in areas with many non-participants, is aware of the risks, and mindfully weighs the risks before participating, then they are a responsible street racer


^^^^^^^^^^ right right on

Since I don't feel like writing up whole new statement for an old, tired discussion, I will just quote myself from another OLD thread. It was in reply to another person that came in with just about the same attitude as you, except he was a bit more tactful about it, and even had a website to preach from.
I hear ya and feel where you're coming from. This is one of the reasons I hardly ever go to street meets anymore. I have gone to maybe three-four in the last 11 years. Even if I go, I never drive my own car for two reasons: one, I don't want my car impounded, which can happen even if I'm not racing. Two, I don't want to get tempted or goaded into a race, which can happen.

Fact of the matter is, this racing thing will never go away, especially with the current crop of cheaper, faster cars. Instead of chasing racers down, ticketing them, throwing them in jail and whatnot, which costs the taxpayers a lot of money, despite the fines being levied, law-enforcement should build free/cheap tracksites that can stay open when others aren't. I am sure a lot of people will volunteer to help maintain this place, including the cops themselves. I know a few officers that were/are racers themselves. Besides that, people doing community-service as recompense can work at this hypothetical track too.

It will never happen though. Cities and Police Departments are too caught up in the politics of "being tough on crime" to even consider doing something like this. By doing so, they're simply pushing the adrenaline-and-gas soaked car "tuners" towards this "organized" chaos.

Even before cars, people have raced. On foot. On animals. How do you think the quarter-mile race came about? That distance was the most common distance used when straight-line racing a horse.

This impulse to compete will always be in everybody. Some, more so than others. Even you I am sure. But not everybody has your insight or common sense.

I am telling you this because I see that you have a whole website to preach from, and maybe one of these days you can point your preaching to the other side too.

On a side note, street/track racing deaths combined don't even come close to what accidental and deliberate gun deaths have wrought. I doubt if casual gun ownership (which can be akin to casual street-racing as opposed to driving to get somewhere) will be outlawed anytime soon in this country, if the NRA has anything to say about it. I know this argument is kind of petty, but it is something to think about.

my opinion: lifes a risk. Take it.

why are you ven trying to make these people stop racing? its not like you can go to a nascar race and say nascar sucks and is stupid, and there all going to leave street racing will always be here.

and it seems like you just barely made a screen name just for posting in here since you only have 7 posts, but maybe im wrong.

I've made my point - its common sense that I cannot control you - nor can I stop you - I am however curious if anyone else here feels the same as I do. There is no such thing as a "responsible" streat racer.

Go to a farm road fine race where you think its safe out there. Or appropriately in the rice fields?

So here is my raceing story, just today some idiot pulls up in a Honda with two big pipes on the back that I could drive my car into. Revs his engine and I about lost it. The car that was in front of me was some ricer that he reved at to but made a turn so I stopped right next to him. So yeah this guy is going around everywhere trying to race people in mid traffic.

Since this happened after I posted this I just about couldn't hold myself together. Even if I wanted race with him I wouldn't be able concentrate.

I've made my point - its common sense that I cannot control you - nor can I stop you - I am however curious if anyone else here feels the same as I do. There is no such thing as a "responsible" streat racer.

Its rather entertaining that I could get such a rise out of people that like to do this stupid shit. I coiuld get killed walking my dog, why push it?Oh, shut up with your self-righteous crap. Instead of sitting here trying to judge people that you don't know, and trying to find a fish in a desert (i.e., I am however curious if anyone else here feels the same as I do), why aren't you trying to do something about it? Why don't you convince your City Council to build a race track? You might get REALLY lucky, and change two or three minds in here. But then what? How many 16-yr-olds got licenses at your local DMV this past week?

Quit playing Don Quixote to the Windmills, and find out how to to make the Windmills obsolete, instead of trying to slay them.

If you don't understand that last analogy, use Google.

Oh, shut up with your self-righteous crap. Instead of sitting here trying to judge people that you don't know, and trying to find a fish in a desert (i.e., I am however curious if anyone else here feels the same as I do), why aren't you trying to do something about it? Why don't you convince your City Council to build a race track? You might get REALLY lucky, and change two or three minds in here. But then what? How many 16-yr-olds got licenses at your local DMV this past week?

Quit playing Don Quixote to the Windmills, and find out how to to make the Windmills obsolete, instead of trying to slay them.

If you don't understand that last analogy, use Google.

My self-righteous crap? I'm not judging anyone. I don't have to judge anyone here because there are idiots like this out there anyway - if not 1 or two who use the forum.

I'm not trying to change someone, If I don't change anyone I'm certainly having fun reading some of the responces.

*sigh* where to begin..

I must admit mid-town racing is extremely foolish, cause god knows I would not want to be caught in a wreck cause some 16 year old just got his first car and his rich parents helped him put every possible upgrade on it.. Also I wouldn't want to see the cow get killed out in the boonies if someone rolled through a pasture (I could have been eating that poor cow at Mc Donalds, instead the ants get too)..

You must realize not all street racers race the same.. I for instance don't race for top speeds, and I don't race 1/4 mile or 1/8 mile.. For me I race to whatever the speed limit is on that specific street and get to that as quick as I can.. See I have been in a highspeed wreck and I wasn't even racing to begin with, so to be honest I am a little uneasy about hitting extreme speeds.. My rush is to be thrown into my seat from the acceleration doing 0-60 in less than 5 seconds (No laws against getting to the speed limit in 2 seconds as long as your not burning tires next to a cop).. In fact there are many many people in my city that do the exact same thing and have cars that could easily hit speeds of 160 and up..

Besides only racing to those short distances is perfect practice for lauching, and increased driving ability at take off (just a quick note for the racers seeing no point in this, I am a master at getting off the line, I've taken a Camaro with my Turcel).. What I do is perfectly legal and it satisfys my needs completely, and in the end its all about getting that desired rush..

We are all not the same, everyone is different, so don't stereotype us as if we are.. Some of us do have consideration for others..

Oh and you are perfectly correct about the cigs..

And that is my :2cents: