Turbo fuel injection??

I was at a buds house with some buds smoking some bud (just kidding hah hah)....we were in the street playing some basketball and i saw a mid/late 80s/early 90's boxy style camaro (hell maybe it was a transam, i dunno) drive by...it really didnt catch my attention until one of my semi-car-literate friends point out that on the back it said "Turbo Fuel Injection". This came as a suprise to me...I was puzzled! It has two of the generic turn down dual exuast mufflers....sound kinda funky, i dunno...What was this thing? Is "turbo fuel injection" some fancy name for a fuel injection system made by GM, or was this thing really turbo-ed?

might have been refering to crossfire injection or something. do you smoke pot? i huff gold spray paint lots cheaper

i huff gold spray paint lots cheaper

WTF??? :loser: , save your brain some cells and stick to the pot... :smokin:

could of been a 1989 Turbo Trans Am. They do not say turbo fuel injected on the back of them though, they just say turbo.

I think it was a TPI and your semi-literate friend read it wrong and thought it said Turbo.

I think I know whats going on here with those stickers........

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/131259hp_sticker.jpg

I saw it and im sure it said turbo...im willing to bet that it was a turbo trans am. Thanks for the info.

Well, the Turbo Trans Ams are GTA's, so did it also say GTA, which BTW are mad rare.

Well, the Turbo Trans Ams are GTA's, so did it also say GTA, which BTW are mad rare.


no no no no..... none of the TTA had the GTA badges on them anywhere. Yea they where a GTA body but they did not say GTA on them at all. and they are not all that rare.

Oh, my bad, I thought they kept the badging... So what do they say on the side, just Trans Am? How can you distinguish them from regualr Trans Ams... and I said they are rare cause as far as I know I've never seen one... that is rare enough for me.

How can you distinguish them from regualr Trans Ams... and I said they are rare cause as far as I know I've never seen one... that is rare enough for me.

Well, to my knowledge I've only seen one, and it said 'Turbo' on it, but it didn't say 'Turbo Fuel Injected'. And it had a pretty big scoop on it, but I doubt it came that way. And yeah, numerically they might not be rare, but I've only seen one.

yeah, they were quick, and also.... a four banger

I thought it sounded rather 4ish...like i said it had two turndown exuast tips, and im fairly confident in saying that one was fake

yall have seen knight rider right? was that a gta?

yeah, they were quick, and also.... a four banger

they were not a four banger, they had the GN engine in them. They do'nt have any kind of scoop on them at all

eh??????? i know for a fact the guy who runs our body shop at work has a TTA he talks mad crap about it all the time, and his is a four banger. could not be the original engine, but i know thats whats in his. thats all im going off of. could be wrong. hypsi always does know more about these crazy turbo thingamagiggermabobbers :)

Yup... 3.8 Turbo and faster than the v8s, how could you go wrong.

pffttt...I know where the guy lives so im gonna go talk to him sometime and take pics...maybe thatll help a bit

here is what I could dig up on the TTA. I know its a little more than needed but hey. Anyone that has a four banger in a TTA is nuts. During the winter, my GN sleeps right next to my uncles TTA. They are IMO the most unique f-body ever produced.


Vehicle Type: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2 + 2 passenger, 3-door coupe


Price.......... $31,198



ENGINE

Type:.......... turbocharged/intercooled V6, cast iron block and heads
Bore x stroke:.......... 3.80 x 3.40 in. (96.5 x 86.4 mm)
Displacement:.......... 3791 cc (236 cu in.)
Compression ratio:.......... 8.0:1
Engine control system:.......... GM electronic with port EFI
Valvetrain:.......... OHV, 2 Valves/cylinder
Emissions control:.......... 3-way catalytic converter, feedback fuel-air ratio control, EGR,
Turbocharger:.......... AiResearch T3
Wastegate:.......... integral
Maximum boost pressure:.......... 16.5 psi
Power (SAE net):.......... 250 hp @ 4400 rpm
Torque (SAE net):.......... 340 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm
Redline:.......... 5250 rpm

DRIVETRAIN

Transmission:.......... 4-sp. automatic w/lockup converter
Transmission ratios:.......... (1st) 2.74:1
(2nd) 1.57:1
(3rd) 1.00:1
(4th) 0.67:1
Axle ratio:.......... 3.27:1, limited-slip

DIMENSIONS AND CAPACITIES

Wheelbase:.......... 101.0 in.
Track, f/r:.......... 60.7/61.6 in.
Length:.......... 191.6 in.
Width:.......... 72.4 in.
Height:.......... 50.0 in.
Frontal area:.......... 21.1 sq. ft.
Ground clearance:.......... 4.5 in.
Curb weight:.......... 3468 lb
Weight distribution, f/r:.......... 55.4/44.6%
Fuel capacity:.......... 18.0 gal
Oil capacity:.......... 6.4 qt.
Water capacity:.......... 17.2 qt.
Trunk space:.......... 5.8 (+ 9.1) cubic ft.

CHASSIS/BODY

Type:.......... unit construction w/ one rubber isolated crossmember
Body material:.......... welded steel stampings

INTERIOR

SAE volume, Front seats:.......... 53 cu. ft.
Rear seats:.......... 32 cu. ft.
Trunk space:.......... 12 cu. ft.
Front seats:......... bucket
Seat adjustments:.......... fore, aft, seatback angle, front height, lumbar support, upper side bolsters, thigh support
General comfort:.......... Good
Fore-and-aft support:.......... Good
Lateral support:.......... Good

SUSPENSION

Front:.......... independent strut located by control arm, coil springs, anti-roll bar
Rear:.......... rigid axle located by 2 trailing links and torque arm, Panhard rod, coil springs, anti-roll bar

STEERING

Type:.......... recirculating ball, power-assisted
Turns lock-to-lock:.......... 2.3
Turning circle, curb-to-curb:.......... 32.6 ft.

BRAKES

Front:......... 11.9 x 1.0-in. vented discs
Rear:.......... 11.7 x 0.8-in. vented discs
Power assist:......... vacuum

WHEELS & TIRES

Wheel size:.......... 8.0 x 16 in.
Wheel type:.......... cast aluminum
Tires:.......... Goodyear Eagle ZR50, P245/50ZR-16 Test inflation pressures, F/R:.......... 30/30 psi

ACCELERATION

0-30 mph:.......... 1.7 sec.
0-40 mph:.......... 2.5 sec.
0-50 mph:.......... 3.4 sec.
0-60 mph:.......... 4.6 sec.
0-70 mph:.......... 6.1 sec.
0-80 mph:.......... 7.9 sec.
0-90 mph:.......... 10.2 sec.
0-100 mph:.......... 13.0 sec.
0-110 mph:.......... 17.1 sec.
0-120 mph:.......... 22.3 sec.
0-130 mph:.......... 30.2 sec.
Top gear passing time, 30-50 mph:.......... 2.9 sec.
Top gear passing time, 50-70 mph:.......... 3.6 sec.
Standing quarter-mile:.......... 13.4 sec. @ 101 mph
Top speed:......... 153 mph

BRAKING

70-0 mph @ impending lockup:......... 217 ft.
Modulation:.......... fair
Fade:.......... none
Front-rear balance:.......... poor

HANDLING

Roadholding, 300-ft-diameter skidpad:.......... 0.88g
Understeer:.......... moderate

COAST DOWN MEASUREMENTS

Road horsepower @ 30 mph:.......... 6 hp
Road horsepower @ 50 mph:.......... 16 hp
Road horsepower @ 70 mph:.......... 34 hp

FUEL ECONOMY
EPA city driving;.......... 16 mpg
EPA highway driving:.......... 24 mpg
C/D observed fuel economy:.......... 13 mpg

INTERIOR SOUND LEVEL

Idle:.......... 57 dBA
Full-throttle acceleration:.......... 82 dBA
70-mph cruising:.......... 75 dBA
70-mph coasting:.......... 74 dBA

yea... thats quick...

well, maybe he saw one one the first or second gens that actually had the turbo fuel injected engines. perhaps he just doesnt know the years of the camaro, after-all boxy can pretty much describe the camaro through any of the years between 72 and 93...

Power (SAE net):.......... 250 hp @ 4400 rpm
Torque (SAE net):.......... 340 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm
Curb weight:.......... 3468 lb
0-60 mph:.......... 4.6 sec.
Standing quarter-mile:.......... 13.4 sec. @ 101 mph


2002 Trans Am WS6

Horsepower : 320-325 hp @ 5200 rpm
Torque : 340-350 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Curb Weight : 3495-3517 lbs(coupe), 3605-3627 lbs(convertible)
0-60 mph : 5.2 sec.(manual), 6.0 sec.(auto)
0-¼ mile : 13.4 sec @ 106.2 mph(manual)

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Now I am absolutely dumbfounded.....70-75 more hp, 0-10 more pounds of torque, BUT 27-48 more pounds of weight (which is hardly nothing). Please, please someone explain this phenomenon, and please don't say the driver...


Road horsepower @ 30 mph:.......... 6 hp
Road horsepower @ 50 mph:.......... 16 hp
Road horsepower @ 70 mph:.......... 34 hp


And I don't understand this road horsepower thing...please enlighten me...

lmao!!!! man, i when im wrong im definately very wrong, why do i ever try to contradict you hypsi :)

well, maybe he saw one one the first or second gens that actually had the turbo fuel injected engines. perhaps he just doesnt know the years of the camaro, after-all boxy can pretty much describe the camaro through any of the years between 72 and 93...

I dont know my camaros that well, but i know for a fact that it wasnt a first or second gen.

works for me...

No takers on my question???

well, you could say driver, you could go with the easy answer and say that someone's numbers are wrong, or you say that those are probably flywheel horsepowers and GN could have a more efficient drivetrain; take your pick...

2002 Trans Am WS6

Horsepower : 320-325 hp @ 5200 rpm
Torque : 340-350 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Curb Weight : 3495-3517 lbs(coupe), 3605-3627 lbs(convertible)
0-60 mph : 5.2 sec.(manual), 6.0 sec.(auto)
0-¼ mile : 13.4 sec @ 106.2 mph(manual)

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Now I am absolutely dumbfounded.....70-75 more hp, 0-10 more pounds of torque, BUT 27-48 more pounds of weight (which is hardly nothing). Please, please someone explain this phenomenon, and please don't say the driver...



And I don't understand this road horsepower thing...please enlighten me...


ok a turbo car unlike a NA car is not RPM dependent for HP. A turbo car is dependent on boost. For instance, a turbo car will make more HP per cubic inch at 3k rpm than the NA car because of the VE of a turbo car. I don't know how to explain it. The peak HP might be higher but the turbo car will make more HP through the rpm band (assuming it is at max boost.)

I am applying this to the LS1 as compared to the L98 turbo 3.8.

As for your other question, I think the road HP refers to the ammount of HP it takes to maintain that speed

lmao!!!! man, i when im wrong im definately very wrong, why do i ever try to contradict you hypsi :)


eh, you have cought me, I have caught you, its all good. You would be suprised at what people think the GN powerplant is. I have heard anything from a 350 twin turbo from a 4.3 four banger. its all a big controversy :eek7:

Thanks, and also I saw that the 250 come at 2800, very low, like the torque peak on an lt1 right....(mabye not exact at 2800, but I know its low)