Turbo replacement options...

For those of you who checked out my thread on my wonderful bad luck, you know that my turbo is fuct. So, I am getting a new one on the dealership. Only thing is... why get a new t25? My mechaninc already told me straight out that he's not gonna let me pick out a turbo and bring it to him to install. which kind of blows my hopes for getting a evo 16g. Plus with all the support mods like injectors and a front mount, the people payin the bill might get a little torqued off. SO... my question is this. can I get a new 14b? like brand new from a dealership? I know I can get used ones off ebay, but why put a used turbo on my car when someone else is footing the bill? It has to be something that is completely bolt on. and I figured why not have him slap on a 14b since it's "stock" and requires no major modification except the oil and water lines. Does anyone know anywhere that I can get a new 14b turbo? or do dealerships carry them by any chance? I will foot the bill for the install kit if it needs one. I know you can just switch the lines around (front to back and back to front) but my mechanic doesn't like jerry rigging things and would much rather have the right parts. Does RRE or SBR or anyone like that have an install kit for the 14b? I'll look but was wondering if anyone knew offhand. also, does anyone have any idea on a price for either the 14b or t25. I'm just looking for a little extra oompff for the headache I've got out of this thing. and I think a 14b will do that for me. also, is there anything else I need other than the water and oil lines? I'm pretty sure I don't, but I'm wrong a lot. someone correct me please. Thanks for your input.

P.S. the reason I'm trying to do it "my way" and not the mechanics is that he told me it was gonna cost 1200 bucks to get a rebuilt turbo for my car. I told him he was insane and that I would find something out for him and bring him the details. So if anyone could help me out with this I'm trying to be as nice to the dealership as possible while still benefitting myself.

There's no way to tell if the dealership can order a 14b, and they probably don't have any in stock. You could call parts and ask them easily... and they don't need to know your whole story. Just ask if they have or can get a 14b. They probably have more EVO16g turbos than 14b's now anyway, so if you could get Mitsu to order that, and IF THEY WILL PAY FOR IT, and if your mechanic will install it (tell him it's the same engine and a stock turbo) then you could get away with that. I wouldn't demand it be paid for though. Oh and BTW, 14b and EVO16g should cost about the same new. My t25 rebuild (don't ask-i didnt pay for it) cost 1000+

Anyway the install kit for a 14b on a 2g is the same as a 16g. It's called a '2g install kit' from RRE. For reference, you can make your own with:
J pipe - $35 from dsmtrader, or make your own by lengthening the LICP.
SS oil feed line - $30 RRE

well that establishes the things I needed to know. The t25 rebuild is out of the question and it'll be cheaper to do the 16g. sooooo I'm gonna try to talk him into that. since it technically is a "stock" turbo. Do you think I'd be better off ordering it from a dealer or from someone like SBR? also, besides the install kit and injectors, a larger fuel pump, and a fr. maybe a afc. so I need anything else. sadly I doubt my mechanic is gonna go for it. But I'll try. Thanks again for the help.

If your mechanic is more likely to do it if it's from the dealership (some people think dealerships actually know what they are talking about, lol) then there's no reason not to get it from Mitsu. You could ask the sellers of the car if they would rather pay for a $1200 dollar turbo or a $600 one from SBR. If the sellers WANT you to go with the evo16g, your mechanic will likely do it.

You can run any turbo without injectors/pump/regulator/afc, so don't tell your mechanic all that needs to be done. Just get the turbo paid for and installed, then worry about turning the boost up later.

sounds good. Do dealers carry the evo 16g? Guess the only way to find out is to ask huh. Yea.. I"ll have to do that. I don't see why they wouldn't rather pay 600 instead of 1200. Even if it costs 800 from a dealer they're still makin out on top. and so am I. I'll have to look into it. as far as the 16g goes... I left the car completely stock. I have all the greddy piping and a type s, plus an injen intake. I also got the profec b and a turbo timer and all necessary guages. BUT.. none of them are on the car. am I going to cause any problems running that turbo on a completely stock engine? it will only be for a few days till I get time to put the other mods on. plus. I don't have the tools for the injectors, nor do I really know how to put them in. I'm sure I can find someone who knows how though. Do you think the fuel pump is completely necessary? and which do you think is better. the 190 or the 225?

I'm almost positive that you can run the 16g on a stock motor. You just won't be able to boost very much before your injectors run to 100% duty cycle. I'm not sure what will happen if you try to go WOT with a 16g and stock motor, but if you did keep the boost low, you will do fine.

They might not carry it, but I think they could order it. What turbo does the evo8 use? They have that one, at least. :) If not, you might have to go with SBR or another DSM vendor.

The 190lph is a good pump for a 16g, it's only at what, 400+hp that you need more? Plus with the 255 you need the pressure regulator. Some people say you don't, but base pressure is like 63psi with the 255, and stock is what? 40-50, not sure exactly.