AF is going down the gurgler
Oz
03-31-2004, 11:05 PM
:eek:
Just talked to Igor. Unbeleivable. We're $15k in the hole and he's pulling the plug. :banghead:
Fuck fuck fuck. Where am I going to go when I'm bored at work? Or at 3 in the morning when no one is awake. This sucks the big one. We need to find a new forum to migrate to before the server gets pulled.
:swear: :crying: :mad:
Just talked to Igor. Unbeleivable. We're $15k in the hole and he's pulling the plug. :banghead:
Fuck fuck fuck. Where am I going to go when I'm bored at work? Or at 3 in the morning when no one is awake. This sucks the big one. We need to find a new forum to migrate to before the server gets pulled.
:swear: :crying: :mad:
whtteg
03-31-2004, 11:10 PM
OH my fucking god!!
This had better be one of the biggest April fools jokes ever!
This had better be one of the biggest April fools jokes ever!
DevoutWankelist
03-31-2004, 11:10 PM
Is there absoltely no hope for salvage? What if we had 15k? I would donate money to AF, there are TONS of people who are addicted to this site, I'm sure that they would too. We need a plan of action.
We really only need something like $15 from 1000 AFers, that seems doable?
ARE YOU SERIOUS????!!!!!
Migration is a second option. . . Since nowhere will be as good as AF we should try to save AF before contemplating a migration.
PS. If this is an april fools joke. . . :twak:
We really only need something like $15 from 1000 AFers, that seems doable?
ARE YOU SERIOUS????!!!!!
Migration is a second option. . . Since nowhere will be as good as AF we should try to save AF before contemplating a migration.
PS. If this is an april fools joke. . . :twak:
blindside.AMG
03-31-2004, 11:11 PM
Wow, that blows. Maybe it was naive of me to think running a board like this would be relatively cheap. I just read that he was moving to a new server and stuff. How did he end up $15k in the hole?
whtteg
03-31-2004, 11:12 PM
Is there absoltely no hope for salvage? What if we had 15k? I would donate money to AF, there are TONS of people who are addicted to this site, I'm sure that they would too. We need a plan of action.
We really only need something like $15 from 1000 AFers, that seems doable?
ARE YOU SERIOUS????!!!!!
I am down with that! :bigthumb:
We really only need something like $15 from 1000 AFers, that seems doable?
ARE YOU SERIOUS????!!!!!
I am down with that! :bigthumb:
Suislide
03-31-2004, 11:14 PM
i can't even think of anything to type.
i am so in shock that i can't even comprehend my thoughts.
it's like losing a family.
this fucking bites. first my girlfriend breaks up with me, then i can't go on the family trip to Ireland, and now this.
what a shit week.
i am so in shock that i can't even comprehend my thoughts.
it's like losing a family.
this fucking bites. first my girlfriend breaks up with me, then i can't go on the family trip to Ireland, and now this.
what a shit week.
blindside.AMG
03-31-2004, 11:15 PM
Damn, just remembered it was April Fool's day in Austrailia. Oz, you son of a bitch! :swear:
P.S. Happy birthday to ME! :biggrin:
P.S. Happy birthday to ME! :biggrin:
Oz
03-31-2004, 11:18 PM
Damn, just remembered it was April Fool's day in Austrailia. Oz, you son of a bitch! :swear:
P.S. Happy birthday to ME! :biggrin:
:( Yes it is, and no - this is no joke. What kind of asshole would joke about this? If worst comes to worst and it goes to debt recovery, he may have to sell project 350Z to avoid litigation.
P.S. Happy birthday to ME! :biggrin:
:( Yes it is, and no - this is no joke. What kind of asshole would joke about this? If worst comes to worst and it goes to debt recovery, he may have to sell project 350Z to avoid litigation.
DevoutWankelist
03-31-2004, 11:20 PM
ok then. . .
So how much will it take and where can we send our donations?
What's best, cash check or credit?
So how much will it take and where can we send our donations?
What's best, cash check or credit?
whtteg
03-31-2004, 11:21 PM
I can think of nothing else to say but that it has been real guys and that I will miss AF :(
Oz
03-31-2004, 11:22 PM
I can think of nothing else to say but that it has been real guys and that I will miss AF :(
I will talk to Igor about the idea of donations. Hopefully we can set up a fund.
I will talk to Igor about the idea of donations. Hopefully we can set up a fund.
jon@af
03-31-2004, 11:24 PM
Damn, just remembered it was April Fool's day in Austrailia. Oz, you son of a bitch! :swear:
P.S. Happy birthday to ME! :biggrin:
guess again:banghead:
P.S. Happy birthday to ME! :biggrin:
guess again:banghead:
whtteg
03-31-2004, 11:25 PM
I am having Purehonda.com flash backs lol. The same thing happened to purehonda.com and they sent everybody over here :) Now we are having to move once again, but everybody will not end up on the same forum b/c AF is the only forum I know of that is for all cars and more.
speediva
03-31-2004, 11:31 PM
Omigosh!!! What the h3ll??? :(
I love AF!!! I can't even deal when we went down for server upgrades, and now we're going under for good. :( We're going to have to take over someother place, but it won't be teh same.
I love AF!!! I can't even deal when we went down for server upgrades, and now we're going under for good. :( We're going to have to take over someother place, but it won't be teh same.
IntegraBoy2003
03-31-2004, 11:37 PM
OMG man this sux, I love this site, you guys are like bros to me, when there is nothing to do at work or at school I am always on this site
DevoutWankelist
03-31-2004, 11:40 PM
Lets get this donation thing set up as quickly as possible.
WE SHALL NOT GO GENTLY INTO THE NIGHT.
This isn't the time to pity AF, ourselves or others, this is the time to step up and support our beloved AF so that our childrens children can flame each other about the import vs domestic hovercars.
But seriously, I have $55 in tips I made tonight in an envelope right now, and I can sell my pot sack for about 20, Give me an address and I'll start the donations with my $75.
WE SHALL NOT GO GENTLY INTO THE NIGHT.
This isn't the time to pity AF, ourselves or others, this is the time to step up and support our beloved AF so that our childrens children can flame each other about the import vs domestic hovercars.
But seriously, I have $55 in tips I made tonight in an envelope right now, and I can sell my pot sack for about 20, Give me an address and I'll start the donations with my $75.
carrrnuttt
03-31-2004, 11:40 PM
:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
All confirmed. Igor actually made the announcement in the mod's corner, and left us, the mods, to our own devices to spread the word.
What were hoping for is that his accountants or whoever are playing an April Fools on Igor himself. Otherwise, :sadwavey:
All confirmed. Igor actually made the announcement in the mod's corner, and left us, the mods, to our own devices to spread the word.
What were hoping for is that his accountants or whoever are playing an April Fools on Igor himself. Otherwise, :sadwavey:
DevoutWankelist
03-31-2004, 11:49 PM
If we took all of the avatars, smilies, and sigs off, would he be able to maybe sell some of the hardware, or bandwidth?? THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING.....
mines gone.
mines gone.
Ace$nyper
03-31-2004, 11:50 PM
wow thats a downer i shall miss this place learned lot met ppl shame really id be down to help out with lil donation if needed.
HogieGT-R
03-31-2004, 11:50 PM
Oh....my...God....
this is what i come home to? I am at a loss for words....i've been here for so long and i've seen people come and go but this takes the cake......the sad part about this? i can't even help.....i have no fucking money:banghead::crying: i would so give up things for this site as it's part of my life.....if it wasn't for AF, i wouldn't have met some o the coolest people, nor would i have learned so much about the people down under....we really have to do something, because just like my other forums, I love my AF.....:( what are we gonna do? i don't even know:disappoin
this is what i come home to? I am at a loss for words....i've been here for so long and i've seen people come and go but this takes the cake......the sad part about this? i can't even help.....i have no fucking money:banghead::crying: i would so give up things for this site as it's part of my life.....if it wasn't for AF, i wouldn't have met some o the coolest people, nor would i have learned so much about the people down under....we really have to do something, because just like my other forums, I love my AF.....:( what are we gonna do? i don't even know:disappoin
Spec2 Girl
04-01-2004, 12:00 AM
That really sux. :( I will miss this place so much if it goes. Nowhere else is the same. There has to be something we can do! :(
ac427cpe
04-01-2004, 12:04 AM
i'm still in shock. :sob:
i shall miss you all deeply. the AF community has been like a family (a really weird, and sometimes psychotic family... but a family none the less).
i shall miss you all deeply. the AF community has been like a family (a really weird, and sometimes psychotic family... but a family none the less).
97civiclx
04-01-2004, 12:04 AM
i got my 15 to donate. tell me where to send it igor and its yours. this is our home on the net and we will fight for it.
deadlight
04-01-2004, 12:06 AM
Oh man, I still want to think this is a joke, but damn, I guess not, wow, this week I've lost my girlfriend, my dog, and now af. Good times.
Oz
04-01-2004, 12:06 AM
I think you definately have the right idea.
Started this thread:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1677175
Started this thread:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1677175
Soyo
04-01-2004, 12:13 AM
I'm gonna cry... HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO US!!!! right after we get work going on the project car and everything? seems so unbelievable... maybe thats just because I don't want to believe it!
eversio11
04-01-2004, 12:14 AM
Come on Oz, you had to start this on April Fool's day? Why couldn't you start it on the 2nd, so I would have no doubt about this terrible news.
Graphik Styles
04-01-2004, 12:19 AM
hell i'll sort of miss this place, since i've had many good memories here, but i have to say that during the last few months, this place has turned into a power trip.
Not trying to start a flame war or nothign, but yeh, i'll miss it, but had this happened a year ago, i would have missed it alot more...
Not trying to start a flame war or nothign, but yeh, i'll miss it, but had this happened a year ago, i would have missed it alot more...
Steel
04-01-2004, 12:20 AM
Well. This certainly is unexpected. I wish i could doneate some money, if i wasnt a poor college student myslfe :(
Hopefully things can work out for AF, but if not then :sadwavey:
Hopefully things can work out for AF, but if not then :sadwavey:
TexasF355F1
04-01-2004, 12:22 AM
This sux. Man, I'm not gonna have anything to kill time now. I still kinda think this is an April fools even though its been said its not.
Oz
04-01-2004, 12:23 AM
Soyo - The project car may need to be sold to cover legal costs.
eversio11 - We have been trying to avoid this for nearly a month. We have just had the final word from Igor.
eversio11 - We have been trying to avoid this for nearly a month. We have just had the final word from Igor.
D[X]P
04-01-2004, 12:24 AM
WTF!!!!!!!!!! Ozzy you better be kidding
this place is like my home
wtf :mad:
this place is like my home
wtf :mad:
tenguzero
04-01-2004, 12:25 AM
Was there any explanation as to WHY? I know running a website takes a LOT of money, and the server wasn't cheap, but how did $15k come about? See, I've been wondering what was up with this server situation, and if it was REALLY a wise investment... I've STILL witnessed this place down numerous times since the installation, and even if the new server WAS needed, the place seemed to get by OK with the old one... there was just too many features being added and people joining without any prior screening. How much server space is being wasted by orphaned user acounts, unnecessary "features" and the picture posting section- do we REALLY need that? It's obvious AF is running on a tight budget, and kudos to Igor and any others involved in keeping it going, but I just can't help but wonder how much of this $15k is/was mis-managed (for lack of a better term.) If this place is hard up for money, why not get some more advertisers or something. I'll deal with a few more pop-ups if that's what it takes... they're everywhere else anyways. I just can't believe it is cut-and-dry $15k in the hole. Any sane person would have pulled the plug to cut their losses if the situation was getting that bad. Like I said, kudos to The Management for keeping this place going through that for this long (a testament to showing that the evil $$ means NOTHING next to being part of a community like this) but I'm sure there are other ways to keep operating, without continuing to plunge headlong into debt.
dayna240sx
04-01-2004, 12:26 AM
Automotive forums bought Igor that car.
If he is 15K in debt, he should sell it and drive something any other normal 18 year old would drive.
If he is 15K in debt, he should sell it and drive something any other normal 18 year old would drive.
Oz
04-01-2004, 12:30 AM
P']WTF!!!!!!!!!! Ozzy you better be kidding
this place is like my home
wtf :mad:
If anyone else thinks this is in any way funny, please read the link at the top of your page in red "The End of Automotiveforums.com".
:(
this place is like my home
wtf :mad:
If anyone else thinks this is in any way funny, please read the link at the top of your page in red "The End of Automotiveforums.com".
:(
jcz1987
04-01-2004, 12:34 AM
NOOOOOO! This can't be. I just gewt to know everyone on this site and now where are going? This can't be happening. I am just shocked of what's happening.
3geezdirector
04-01-2004, 12:41 AM
can any details be revealed on exactly what copyright infringements occured? I alway's thought Igor had a legal team to prevent this from happening. Maybe I am missing something but at a quick glance I can't see any copyright infringements unless it's all behind the scenes that none of us are aware of.
It really sucks that it's "stupid" legal jargon that is the downfall
It really sucks that it's "stupid" legal jargon that is the downfall
Oz
04-01-2004, 12:44 AM
We have been informed that the only information that can be made public about the case is that it involves a car magazine and our 350Z project - and the fact that AF is tied so closely with that.
burnM
04-01-2004, 12:55 AM
I've really enjoyed meeting everyone on this forum. It is indeed a shame to see it go. If it is at all possible to save it, I will be singing a happy tune.
I know that I have only been here for a couple of months, but this forum has pulled me through a long dull winter up here in Canada. I've enjoyed reading and responding to every section that I have visited, and have learned more since being among you all.
I'll be sticking around to the very end....as I'm sure that most everyone will. I only hope that there is some way that that day will not come, as I have grown accustomed to passing through here every chance I get. I am certain that if Igor could do something to save AF, he would do it, or would've done it already.
All that I can think to say now, is thank you, Igor, and everyone else responsible for creating AF. Thank you for bringing all of us auto enthusiasts together to share ideas, offer advice, or just to shoot the proverbial shit.
:worshippy
It's been a fun ride...... :thumbsup:
-Brian
I know that I have only been here for a couple of months, but this forum has pulled me through a long dull winter up here in Canada. I've enjoyed reading and responding to every section that I have visited, and have learned more since being among you all.
I'll be sticking around to the very end....as I'm sure that most everyone will. I only hope that there is some way that that day will not come, as I have grown accustomed to passing through here every chance I get. I am certain that if Igor could do something to save AF, he would do it, or would've done it already.
All that I can think to say now, is thank you, Igor, and everyone else responsible for creating AF. Thank you for bringing all of us auto enthusiasts together to share ideas, offer advice, or just to shoot the proverbial shit.
:worshippy
It's been a fun ride...... :thumbsup:
-Brian
3geezdirector
04-01-2004, 01:10 AM
I am just guessing but Sport compact car has a project 350z, so maybe it has something to do with that..
If the magazine is ever revealed, I am pretty sure many people will boycott that mag.
If the magazine is ever revealed, I am pretty sure many people will boycott that mag.
Toksin
04-01-2004, 01:15 AM
This fucking sucks.
Iggy tried so hard..and for nothing.
FUCK FUCK FUCK.
I can't even think of what to say. FUCK. THIS IS FUCKING TERRIBLE.
Iggy tried so hard..and for nothing.
FUCK FUCK FUCK.
I can't even think of what to say. FUCK. THIS IS FUCKING TERRIBLE.
MBTN
04-01-2004, 01:22 AM
While it's sad that our little internet home is going down the shitter, you people need to realize that everything has it's moment. Now it's time to move on.
justacruiser
04-01-2004, 01:49 AM
Goddammit. I was starting to get to the point where I was biting my nails if I didn't check back on posts after 2 days, now I find out I'm gonna have to find some other forum? THIS SUCKS, where else can a guy argue about cars AND politics at the same time? Or at least do it with the ease and depth of opinion that's available here at AF?
Neutrino
04-01-2004, 04:02 AM
Crap when Igor told us a few days ago I never though the situation would be this bad. This blows what is wrong with the justice system anyway? You can't do anything anymore without somebody claiming intelectual property infringement.
This is F$@& ridiculous what is next we can't go to the bathroom because somebody has the copyright to it. :banghead:
This is F$@& ridiculous what is next we can't go to the bathroom because somebody has the copyright to it. :banghead:
ShortyDTP
04-01-2004, 04:03 AM
OMG seriosly if this is a joke aww man , don't even know what to say, this is just impossible all this is going to be gone in like what 4 days. I relly LOVE this place , it is like my second home inside my first home!!!! I am shock .... but I really hope that this isn't any kind of a joke. It isn't even funny!!:mad::banghead:
okimar
04-01-2004, 05:40 AM
THis does suck. I mean Im a new guy and all. I wanted to get started by posting my car pics. I will donate if you tell me where to push the cash.
zebrathree
04-01-2004, 06:16 AM
I shall believe it when I get the 404 error.
CamaroSSBoy346
04-01-2004, 07:04 AM
well....that sucks..(no words to describe)
deadlight
04-01-2004, 07:10 AM
Yeah, I'm with Zebrathree, I'm doubting this more and more as I read things.
Amish_kid
04-01-2004, 08:03 AM
Automotive forums bought Igor that car.
If he is 15K in debt, he should sell it and drive something any other normal 18 year old would drive.
Effin :werd:, You know the Player's Run probably didn't help much either.
If he is 15K in debt, he should sell it and drive something any other normal 18 year old would drive.
Effin :werd:, You know the Player's Run probably didn't help much either.
Partizan
04-01-2004, 10:14 AM
Wow, if this is true that really sucks. This forum saved me from a long cold Canadian winter and I'm typing this in class. I still have my doubts though. I keep thinking April Fools, I see I'm not the only one.
YogsVR4
04-01-2004, 10:17 AM
Wow, if this is true that really sucks. This forum saved me from a long cold Canadian winter and I'm typing this in class. I still have my doubts though. I keep thinking April Fools, I see I'm not the only one.
No - you are not the only one.
No - you are not the only one.
Partizan
04-01-2004, 10:27 AM
Nevermind, just read the "Update to the AF Situation" at the top of the page. I knew it lol. I bet a lot of people are laughing at themselves. :grinno: Including me. :banghead:
burnM
04-01-2004, 02:18 PM
Son off a bitch!!
Paint my face red...:)
Paint my face red...:)
Damien
04-01-2004, 04:49 PM
LOL!!! Yeah for most Americans that joined in late! :D
well, I think this brought out the truth in everyone on how mych of a family forum this is...I know I'd hate it if it when down, but APRIL FOOLS EVERYONE!!! :D
Damn i was scared though...
well, I think this brought out the truth in everyone on how mych of a family forum this is...I know I'd hate it if it when down, but APRIL FOOLS EVERYONE!!! :D
Damn i was scared though...
kittedb18bt
04-01-2004, 09:33 PM
die ozzzzz
ShortyDTP
04-02-2004, 12:01 AM
i know !!! tha's mess up OZ!!!
D[X]P
04-02-2004, 12:30 AM
SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND, OZZY! :evillol:
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