Integra GSR vs. Prelude VTEC

Both have VTEC engines.
The Integra has a 170hp version though and it's 128 torque. Weight is 2529 lbs.

The Prelude has 190hp and 158 torque in the 1993-96 models and weighs 2809 lbs. 1997/98 models have 195hp and 156 torque, 1999-01 models have 200hp and 156 torque. 1997+ models weigh 2954 lbs.

4 wheel disk brakes...I guess they're fairly similar in regard to braking ability though the Prelude has more weight.

What car do you think has the best performance? I know there's some experts out there that know this kinda stuff!:) Do you think the lower weight of the Integra makes up for the lower torque and hp?

I guess I'm really asking this because I'm trying to choose what to buy and it's between these cars. I know the 1997+ Prelude models have that active torque transfer to the wheels for better handling and that's a consideration too.. I'm looking for a fun car that I probably won't mod, and if I do it won't be past intake/header/exhaust levels, that can win the occasional stop light race.:p


I was reading around and think I should make a correction to the GSR weight....2667lbs for the 1994-01 models as far as I know.

From what I hear the GSR takes shorter races like street races but longer ones and freeway/highway the Prelude will take?

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ok, this might sound really wierd but, i raced this one black prelude here in my town had VTEC and CAI on it. as far as i could tell. the only reason that i think he had a CAI is b/c he had an AEM sticker on the side of his car. but anyways, we ended up racing three times in a row down this one long ass street here and i kicked his ass everytime. and he kept asking for more???? and yes he was really racing b/c he missed his turn to keep going. noticed that later. as far aas all the preludes go, there is not one that i have found to beat me yet. i'm not impressed with preludes so far. so stick with the integra:2cents:

I agree, well I haven't race with any ludes, but on tegs, my 96 kicked 95 gsr 5 times in a row like 5 sec behind, 95 has aftermarket AI, other than that both r stocks. So if you want to buy GSR go with 96-up. spec is the same but 96+ faster than 94-95, that's a fact.

If I'm U I take the Prelude VTEC...5th Gen

I never been on GSR or 5th gen VTEC but I been on a 4th Gen prelude VTEC and well it has mean o take off cause of all that torque over a GSR and u could always weight reduct A Prelude and well the same could be said about the GSR...but u'll win more style points on a Prelude and trust me VTEC Prelude's r fast and have very very very good handling....TAKE THE 5TH GEN IF U COULD AFFORD IT IF NOT 4TH GEN PRELUDE VTEC IS PRETTY GOOD 2!!

i know nothing about preludes exept that they are overpriced, heavier than an integra, and have more power
-i love the h22 engine, i wish it was in my integra
-not sure about the handling of a prelude but out of the box my integra handled great
- gsr's are less pricey than most vtec preludes and in my opinion look better
- you will hang with/beat alot of cars (like 1.8t's, se-r's, older stang gt's, 80's firebirds, vr6's) at stoplights as soon as you know how to drive your gsr properly
- this is an integra forum so most people in here will probably say gsr, and with either car you are going to notice a world of difference from your older integra

ps. any vtec prelude or gsr in good condition for a good price should be considered, because you wont find too many

if you don't want to mod then i'd go with the prelude. the gsr's are fun, but the prelude has a better stock portfolio.

If you aren't modding, I'd suggest the 5th gen SH hands down. Better handling, faster, more fun. Plus, everyone has an integra.

Baller man.. I'm not trying to flame, but it's hard to read/comprehend when you don't fully type out words, and don't use punctuation. Thanks. :smile:

you can't go wrong with either. both are very high performance cars.

From what I hear the GSR takes shorter races like street races but longer ones and freeway/highway the Prelude will take?

The Prelude is the faster car, both in short and long.

Keep in mind the aftermarket for integras is vast compared to that of preludes.

you can't really go wrong with either, both cars perform very well.

-4th gen prelude vtecs can hang with type-r's
-5th gen preludes are a little slower due to weight, but can still compare easily to gsr's
-integras handle better due to being lighter (except for maybe the 5th gen prelude type sh's, but i still think the integra should edge it out)
-aftermarket for integras is vast compared to that of preludes

I'm sure you'll be happy with your car, whichever one you get.

from what ive heard the prelude (5th genn h22a) takes better to bolt on mods as well.

I raced a 4th gen and I had him beat by the top of 2nd gear he couldn't hang with me.

I doubt the Prelude responds better to mods. Mine certainly isn't too responsive.

Preludes are nice because you take people by suprise. People generally think Preludes are slower than GSR's. (<-- bull)

yup preludes are way faster than GSR + in my place, the newer GSR compared to the Ludes are more expensive...
GSR is more luxury i think

was that in your 13.3 type r because with that time i think you had him before the race started

i just raced a vtec lude last night in my gsr and it was damn close !! i was ahead by a nose for most of the race but i kinda over-revved and he got side by side with me and we held position ... you cant go wrong with either car .....

yup preludes are way faster than GSR + in my place, the newer GSR compared to the Ludes are more expensive...
GSR is more luxury i think


ok either A: you havent really seen a gsr race a lude
B: your info source is the world weekly news
or C: the gsr's in your place are freakishly slow !!

seriously , a gsr and a prelude is a drivers race , period .......

seriously , a gsr and a prelude is a drivers race , period .......

Exactly.

Yeah, I guess that your right, but I like the integras much better than the preludes.

when my lude was still stock, the only GSR I ever lost to was one that was shooting 50 shot. I tied a 94' GSR with AEM cai, DC 4-1, and a Greddy cat back. And the other victims, saw either my back rims or my tail lights.

you must be a pro at driving, because when i got my intake and exhaust i noticed a nice difference when my engine was breathing fire at 8000 rpms, before intake/ exhaust it felt almost like my car had asthma, and the only gsr ever to "tie" you had i/h/e ha! good one

the ATTS (Active Tourque Transfer System) is only in the Prelude Type SH. Overall, both cars are very similar stock to stock. The newer ludes will pull a bit over the gsr, but overall they are similar.. It's down to choice at that point, and perhaps mods you plan on.

tell you what.. after I do my engine swap this summer, I'll go race my buddy with his GSR equipped with i/h/e and better traction and we'll see..

prelewd, what engine are you swapping into what car? - and what better traction does he have?

-ps im not trying to say either is faster but some guy was saying stock vs. stock theres no comparo

buy the GSR, and you'll wish you had the preludes torque, looks, and orginality

buy the prelude and you'll wish you had the GSR's lighter weight, and greater aftermarket support.

all things considered, after consulting with my mech, my friends, and my dad (with the exception of my mech, none of these are experts, but merely enthusiasts) we all decided the 97-01 preludes are the way to go. heres why

they are better stock

given equal mods, they still make more power (and looking at what you want to do mod wise, you'll never get the GSR into the preludes power range)

they look cooler

there are less of them

prelude owners are a tighter knit group and thus cooler to hang with

and, on the whole, intregras are cop magnets. preludes (while not by much) are a little more inconspicuous

Both cars are really great cars and are almost on a even playing field when compared for perfromance. I do have to say that the prelude looks a little more "grown up" if you will. But this topic has been brought up before and it turned into a big flame war, please guys let's not let it happen again.

overall a good reply by lazysmurf just a few minor changes which i will touch on
i do wish for the preludes torque im not gonna lie - not its looks though

prelewd, what engine are you swapping into what car? - and what better traction does he have?

-ps im not trying to say either is faster but some guy was saying stock vs. stock theres no comparo

I'll be swapping in the h22.. what else?

With the swap, I'll have to buy a header and since I already have an exhaust, the only thing I'd lack would be an intake. He has some 7" inch wide rims which weigh considerably less than my 6.5" wide stockies that weigh 22lbs a piece.

We both have pretty much the same suspension setup for our cars, as well as the same exhaust system (greddy evo). With the H22s displacement, it should take to the exhaust modification a little better than the b18. I don't know if he has a highflow cat right now, but I'll ask.

It would be a pretty comparable race if you ask me..

GSR is more luxury i think Why is that? I don´t think so....

The only Integra we got was the ITR over here in germany so I can´t really compare them. Personally I love my 5th gen... :smile:

Prelude = faster, better looking, and better handling, i raced type'rs and gsr's with my h22a vtec lude, and I ve beaten both

uh huh, you've sure beaten type r's in your gaylude (oohhhh no what have i done) 205 hp boy

I doubt he's beaten Type R's. Maybe if their drivers didn't have legs. But name calling is unnecessary, because a Type S prelude is more or less the equal of the ITR.

i know i was kidding, i like preludes, alot, it's just in another thread he kept saying his car had 205 hp and no one could figure out which motor he had, but he was just stat adding for a k+n filter lol

wtf is a prelude type s?

220hp 5th gen Prelude from Japan.

ive raced may gsrs in my 5th gen lud beaten most but never beat an ITR...they would alwyas pull in top of secon and end up one car ahead to 95mph
i give props to the GSRs and mad respect to the ITR but IMO the lude looks much better 97-01
"everyone drives a honda, just not a Prelude"

Ok guys this is headed in the flame war direction real fast :rolleyes:

I agree, well I haven't race with any ludes, but on tegs, my 96 kicked 95 gsr 5 times in a row like 5 sec behind, 95 has aftermarket AI, other than that both r stocks. So if you want to buy GSR go with 96-up. spec is the same but 96+ faster than 94-95, that's a fact.

that is not a fact. 94-95 is obd1 and 96 and up are obd2 and obd2 have to many restition

What ever happened to the good old days.Ya know, when it was Chevy vs, Ford, Or Mopar vs. both.They are both Hondas anyway you look at it and should get respect from either side. Even when it comes down to Integra models people get into arguements on which is better. And once again, neither one is better. All that matters is how $ ya got.
As which car to buy? Do yourself a favor, test drive before you buy.That is the only way you will know for sure which one to buy.Either way, it will be the right decision.

What the hell is there to compare on which one is faster from a Lude and Teg....stats...speak in big words and the teg isn't that much lighter then a Prelude I hate when people bring that stupid stat up "weight" fuck that i'll take off my stupid wing in the back (yeah right don't need the help) and where almost the same....stupid teg....(sure they look alright but nothing like a Prelude) and Prelude stock for stock with a teg GSR or Type R is still better nuff said.....

4th Gen Lude VTEC: 190----158
3rd Gen Teg GSR: 170----128

O.K. there both Honda's there' both front wheel drive everything there the same 1.8 against a 2.2 which only weight's a lil more then the GSR and the Prelude is shorter do weider then a GSR

O.K. u say TYPE R I say
2 much MONEY FOR 25 HP and like 2 Torque more with the same engine!!! 1.8 stupid people....
Type R 195----130

I say 5th Gen Type SH faster and ATTS
Type SH: 200---156 ha stupid teg fans r so stupid to think they can beat a prelude and bring up the weight thing when it's not even that much of a difference while we have much better stats then a GSR even a TYPE R (atleast engine/torque wise)

the only reason people think a GSR or a TYPE R can beat a PRELUDE VTEC OR SH is cause there's a lot more people with Teg's then Prelude's....NUFF SAID!!!

One more thing "Ace's" u must have the slowest Prelude in the world cause ur always putting R BELOVED LUDE DOWN...will u buy ur self a REAL PRELUDE VTEC MODEL!!! god.....maybe u swapped it WRONG....HA!!!

and Ace's post engine pic's....i'm starting to think ur LUDE ISN"T EVEN VTEC therefor u never been on a VTEC LUDE....people let's post r engine pic's....i'll post my's up but i can't find how to!!! LiL help please...thankxx guys ( i wanna c GSR's 2)

Advantage of Integra=aftermarket. As far as I've heard, Type R is supposedly king of Honda engines. Everybody wants one in their CRX, Civic hatch, whatever. Very few people want the H22. Even though the H22 is better out the gate, I think this reasoning is because there is so much more they know they can do with the B18C's. Only one or two kids I know went w/ H22 in their civics, and now one thinks he can smoke me, but that is another story.

What the hell is there to compare on which one is faster from a Lude and Teg....stats...speak in big words and the teg isn't that much lighter then a Prelude I hate when people bring that stupid stat up "weight" fuck that i'll take off my stupid wing in the back (yeah right don't need the help) and where almost the same....stupid teg....(sure they look alright but nothing like a Prelude) and Prelude stock for stock with a teg GSR or Type R is still better nuff said.....

4th Gen Lude VTEC: 190----158
3rd Gen Teg GSR: 170----128

O.K. there both Honda's there' both front wheel drive everything there the same 1.8 against a 2.2 which only weight's a lil more then the GSR and the Prelude is shorter do weider then a GSR

O.K. u say TYPE R I say
2 much MONEY FOR 25 HP and like 2 Torque more with the same engine!!! 1.8 stupid people....
Type R 195----130

I say 5th Gen Type SH faster and ATTS
Type SH: 200---156 ha stupid teg fans r so stupid to think they can beat a prelude and bring up the weight thing when it's not even that much of a difference while we have much better stats then a GSR even a TYPE R (atleast engine/torque wise)

the only reason people think a GSR or a TYPE R can beat a PRELUDE VTEC OR SH is cause there's a lot more people with Teg's then Prelude's....NUFF SAID!!!

One more thing "Ace's" u must have the slowest Prelude in the world cause ur always putting R BELOVED LUDE DOWN...will u buy ur self a REAL PRELUDE VTEC MODEL!!! god.....maybe u swapped it WRONG....HA!!!




This whole post reeks of your ignorance :rolleyes: Here are some stats for you http://car-stats.com/stats/showstats/showstatsgivenid.aspx (http://car-stats.com/stats/showstats/showstatsgivenid.aspx) for the SH and http://car-stats.com/stats/showstats/showstatsgivenid.aspx (http://car-stats.com/stats/showstats/showstatsgivenid.aspx) and for the ITR. So how is it that the prelude is faster than the ITR? Also the weight difference is not that much and you can take your spoiler off and that will even you up? Well if your spoiler weighs 400+lbs then yea you can even up the weight difference. The tranny alone weighs 100lbs more than the B series tranny. I think an apology is needed for your ignorant reply.*note* this is not that I am taking sides between the Prelude vs Integra debate, I am just correcting the wrong information that you are trying to bash the integra with. I personally like both cars, the Integra just happened to be the car I ended up with.

no integra Gsr,TypeR going to kill prelude 92-01 h22a 200 HP not mention Type S
i see everywhere in U.S Atlanta who driving type S
I Feel embrass for those integra fan people

let do algebra math here.
f(g(x) f = Engine Liter x= HP g=Torque
1.8L VS. 2.2L ,
1.8(130(197) = 46098 integra + 5000
2.2(158(200) = 69520 prelude
let give integra 5000 more because he have light weight
Integra fans i can't tell which number is greater than the other... can you guys help me out..

and those who said Integra have more aftermarket support
than prelude... did you ever know a website called Ebay ?

no integra Gsr,TypeR going to kill prelude 92-01 h22a 200 HP not mention Type S
i see everywhere in U.S Atlanta who driving type S
I Feel embrass for those integra fan people

let do algebra math here.
f(g(x) f = Engine Liter x= HP g=Torque
1.8L VS. 2.2L ,
1.8(130(197) = 46098 integra + 5000
2.2(158(200) = 69520 prelude
let give integra 5000 more because he have light weight
Integra fans i can't tell which number is greater than the other... can you guys help me out..

and those who said Integra have more aftermarket support
than prelude... did you ever know a website called Ebay ?


WTF?

What is that incoherent garbage? :screwy:

You need to focus more on your school work or you will be far far behind when you make it to high school.:smokin:

This is why I lose faith in my fellow Prelude owners...

loser can't accept the fact hahaha
why mustang built 4.6L engine instead keep 3.6L
same reason why honda motors built 2.2L Instead 1.8L .... Integra fans do you think you can use your 3.6L to kill 4.6L or 1.8L to kill 2.2L

Well as far as I seen, a 1995 Prelude V-Tech beats a 1997 Integra Type-R by 0.1 mil second on the 1/4 mile.............. go to car-stats.com check it out yourself enuff said :)

loser can't accept the fact hahaha
why mustang built 4.6L engine instead keep 3.6L
same reason why honda motors built 2.2L Instead 1.8L .... Integra fans do you think you can use your 3.6L to kill 4.6L or 1.8L to kill 2.2L

Umh....let's see, I couldn't find any Preludes that beat the 2000 Type R on the site that YOU recommended. The Type R was the only one in the 14's. And just to let you guys know, there is more to it then just hp. There is also gearing and rpms to factor in. Also a thing called usable power. Just give it up, it's o.k. to lose to underpowered cars.

Umh....let's see, I couldn't find any Preludes that beat the 2000 Type R on the site that YOU recommended. The Type R was the only one in the 14's. And just to let you guys know, there is more to it then just hp. There is also gearing and rpms to factor in. Also a thing called usable power. Just give it up, it's o.k. to lose to underpowered cars.


Sry, that was intended for fastguy

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:screwy:

umm I never said the prelude was faster, all I said was that the 1995 prelude beats the integra type-r by 1/10 of a sec...... enough said :)

Beats the 1997 Integra Type-R* :)

Well as far as I seen, a 1995 Prelude V-Tech beats a 1997 Integra Type-R by 0.1 mil second on the 1/4 mile.............. go to car-stats.com check it out yourself enuff said :)


You sir need to just give it up now, You have no clue what you are talking about. Check the links in my first post on page 2 I think it is. Also the 1997 ITR is just as fast as the 98,99.00.and 01. They all had the same motor and tranny etc. Exact same car except for the different front bumper,headlights and rear bumper.

And BTW it is spelled VTEC :shakehead

^^^
:screwy:

umm I never said the prelude was faster, all I said was that the 1995 prelude beats the integra type-r by 1/10 of a sec...... enough said :)

Sorry man but you have to be one of the dumbest people alive! "I never said the prelude was faster" But you say the the prelude beats the integra Type R in the 1/4 mile. Is that not saying that the prelude is faster?:screwy:

loser can't accept the fact hahaha
why mustang built 4.6L engine instead keep 3.6L
same reason why honda motors built 2.2L Instead 1.8L .... Integra fans do you think you can use your 3.6L to kill 4.6L or 1.8L to kill 2.2L

And for you I say :wtf:

you guys are like 5 year olds fighting over a freakin lolipop. now behave before i have to put you in time out to think about what you've done. :p haha

seriously, though how bout a mature debate for once?

you guys are like 5 year olds fighting over a freakin lolipop. now behave before i have to put you in time out to think about what you've done. :p haha

seriously, though how bout a mature debate for once?

I was all for a peacefull debate, I knew from the start that it would turn into something like this though. This topic has come up alot before and I have been ther to see how it turned out. I just wish some people (not to name names) in thisd post would have came to the table with a little more knowledge and proof instead of just bashing a particular car. I must admit that I bashed one or two people in this post but that in now way was me taking sides in the debate, I just can't stand it when people who don't know what they are talking about say a bunch of incorrect things. I feel that possibly someone who was considering either one of these cars will read that incorrect information and make a decision based on that, or partly on that and discover that they have been feed wrong information, and it is too late. :2cents:

See that is why I flamed a smidgen ;)

you guys are like 5 year olds fighting over a freakin lolipop. now behave before i have to put you in time out to think about what you've done. haha

seriously, though how bout a mature debate for once?
:owned:

the link is crap information car-stats.com
300zx tt 0-60 is 6 second
and Supra tt 0-6 is above 5 second

i have a stock '94 vtec prelude and i just raced a '95 gsr (supposed to be the fastest 3rd gen gsr ) and we raced from a stop and a little after 1st gear i was pulling him fast and was ahead of him by almost a car length after about 400 feet...and he had a straight pipe and i had someone in my car 50 lbs heavier then the other person in his gsr...so even in the short race i ate him, imagine if we kept going he woulda lost very badly

I dont like the way a integra looks...and the 4th gen preludes are fast...Trust me...Someone told me...It must be true :p Seriouisly, I did 120 in a vtec prelude...No problem...