XP Reboting Help

Well my computer got attack by couple of viruses and i cant fix it, so i have to use my computer in "safe mode" and i cant use any audio in it and i have like 150 songs downloaded. And was wondering if i reebot my computer to windows 98 would all the songs get deleted??

Well my computer got attack by couple of viruses and i cant fix it, so i have to use my computer in "safe mode" and i cant use any audio in it and i have like 150 songs downloaded. And was wondering if i reebot my computer to windows 98 would all the songs get deleted??


could you be more specific

do you have XP and 98 in a dual boot, or do you want to resintall 98? I'm really not sure what you mean in your post.

My computer has started having the reboot problem too. I am running windows xp, and I have norton antivirus 2004. It will reboot without warning about twice a month. Norton will find spybot and delete it. Should I reinstall xp?

Well my computer got attack by couple of viruses and i cant fix it, so i have to use my computer in "safe mode" and i cant use any audio in it and i have like 150 songs downloaded. And was wondering if i reebot my computer to windows 98 would all the songs get deleted??

If you are dual-booting, then no. Everything is still in it's respective directory and all you have to do is copy and move the files over from their location on the hard drive. If you mean removing Windows XP entirely and installing Windows 98, then yes you'll lose them. There is no way to install Windows 98 over XP without removing XP first (formatting) due to the incompatibilities between the file systems of the two operating systems (Windows 98 can't read NTFS) plus you can't install an older O/S over a new one.

My computer has started having the reboot problem too. I am running windows xp, and I have norton antivirus 2004. It will reboot without warning about twice a month. Norton will find spybot and delete it. Should I reinstall xp?

In my experience, when XP just reboots spontaneously like that it's due to a driver or program incompatibility with Windows XP. The Compaq's and HP's I used to repair when I worked at CompUSA would do that if an incompatible driver was used. Then again, I have found Norton to have a mind of its own as well and there's no telling what it might do to your system when it encounters programs with virus-like attributes. That's one of the few reasons I don't like to use Norton. I doubt it's Windows causing your problem in this case though. Sounds to me like it's Norton, but that's just my opinion.

There is no way to install Windows 98 over XP without removing XP first (formatting) due to the incompatibilities between the file systems of the two operating systems (Windows 98 can't read NTFS) plus you can't install an older O/S over a new one.



in this case there is a small posibility that he has XP running over a fat32 partition. I was actually helping one of my roomates to fix his computer because the "expert" that helped install his system not only installed the entite Xp over Fat32(which true is not the end of the world) but - check this out - he had it se up that C: was shared both read and write with not even a password. Now you guess how many viruses he had?;)

alrite well i used to have 98 but then i installed XP like a year ago, im running XP right now, so would i lose all my songs?

alrite well i used to have 98 but then i installed XP like a year ago, im running XP right now, so would i lose all my songs?


if you do a reinstall and your xp is using ntfs then yes you would lose all your songs


unless you have them on another backup partition or another hd

in this case there is a small posibility that he has XP running over a fat32 partition. I was actually helping one of my roomates to fix his computer because the "expert" that helped install his system not only installed the entite Xp over Fat32(which true is not the end of the world) but - check this out - he had it se up that C: was shared both read and write with not even a password. Now you guess how many viruses he had?;)

I had considered the possibility of this, but in most cases XP converts to NTFS if it is installed over a previous version of Windows using FAT32. It'll default to NTFS if it was a clean install.

As for the "expert" that installed your roommate's PC, I wouldn't let him near another computer again. :p I'm sure the shared drive would have been okay, but if your roommate doesn't know how to avoid viruses or if it was on a perpertual internet connection without a firewall or defensive measures, then yeah I can imagine the havoc on his PC. :evillol:

As for the "expert" that installed your roommate's PC, I wouldn't let him near another computer again. :p I'm sure the shared drive would have been okay, but if your roommate doesn't know how to avoid viruses or if it was on a perpertual internet connection without a firewall or defensive measures, then yeah I can imagine the havoc on his PC. :evillol:


Not only was it on a always on but i happened to be on a campus housing LAN which is so dirty that it forced the university to give away free full versions of norton anti-virus(i don't even want to know what all those licences cost)


and while i was trying to save his data he kept telling me how great and how many certifications that guy had, anoying the crap out of me

gotta love that. another thing that hasnt been mentioned, although this one is not too likely, is if the computer isnt hardware stable. That has been know to cause a comptuer to reboot for no real reason.

gotta love that. another thing that hasnt been mentioned, although this one is not too likely, is if the computer isnt hardware stable. That has been know to cause a comptuer to reboot for no real reason.


true that could happen. And one of the most overlooked component is the power supply. there are way too many crappy power supplys out there that don't deliver the wattage they are suposed to and fluctuate or even worse.

And ofcourse no matter how good your harware or drivers are, an improper power suply will make you system crash.

Not only was it on a always on but i happened to be on a campus housing LAN which is so dirty that it forced the university to give away free full versions of norton anti-virus(i don't even want to know what all those licences cost)


and while i was trying to save his data he kept telling me how great and how many certifications that guy had, anoying the crap out of me

Hehe, that's the best. :p The problem with certs is that no matter how many you have, it means diddly-squat. Just because you have a piece of paper that says you know something, it doesn't mean you do.

And yeah, university networks are virus-ridden and problematic sometimes. I can't imagine the cost of the Norton licences. :sly:

As for power supplies, in my opinion this place has THE best power supplies on the market. They are a little more expensive, but in the hardware industry, you get what you pay for. My tower runs a 425watt supply and my dual slot Pentium III server runs a 510watt supply, both which are from this company. I have NO complaints and have been impressed with their workmanship, quality, and longevity. They know their stuff.

http://www.pcpowercooling.com/

As for power supplies, in my opinion this place has THE best power supplies on the market. They are a little more expensive, but in the hardware industry, you get what you pay for. My tower runs a 425watt supply and my dual slot Pentium III server runs a 510watt supply, both which are from this company. I have NO complaints and have been impressed with their workmanship, quality, and longevity. They know their stuff.

http://www.pcpowercooling.com/

Yes that seems to be the power suply maximum PC has been raving about. I might give it a try in my next system.

Btw i undestood that you have a dual PIII but do you have dual aka redundant power suplys too?

For now i've been using Antec power suplys and they worked like a charm. In the last test i saw from tomsharware they came up as delivering the advertised power reliably.

i have an antec 400 watt. supposts my overclocked 2700 just fine, along with my 9800 pro AIW. gotta put win 2k back on mine though. AIW's seem to hate to work correctly in XP with no fix available to the public, it sux. also, i would suggest reading other places than tom's. for cpu's he is very biased and seems to be a bit biased in graphics cards as well. i dont go there after reading a couple of his intel rules and AMD is a second rate chip maker that should have goen out of buisness cause it cant make a 3 ghz chip.

i have an antec 400 watt. supposts my overclocked 2700 just fine, along with my 9800 pro AIW. gotta put win 2k back on mine though. AIW's seem to hate to work correctly in XP with no fix available to the public, it sux. also, i would suggest reading other places than tom's. for cpu's he is very biased and seems to be a bit biased in graphics cards as well. i dont go there after reading a couple of his intel rules and AMD is a second rate chip maker that should have goen out of buisness cause it cant make a 3 ghz chip.


weird i have two AIW running on my machines both on Xp and they run perfectly.

True they are a bit old. One is a AIW rage 128 and the other is a AIW radeon(the original without a number)...and yes i know i need to upgrade.


BTW i know about how big intel fanboys the tomsharware guys are with their 30 bazilion stage pipelines that magically never get any branch mispredictions. They are not my main source for info don't worry plus I'm still 100% amd

For now I'm waiting for the new Fx's with the future common 939 socket and no need for ECC ram and maybe 90nm, so i can build my next system.

woohoo AMD woohoo. i lveo AMD, how their chips perform equal or better for less money, gotta love it.from what ive heard, all the current gen AIW's have problemsusing the tv tuner in XP, wiht no fix readily available.hey, i got a 9600pro im selling, lol. i cant wait to see what the a64's do on socket 939. and its almost time to be unimporessed with the newest prescot.

Btw i undestood that you have a dual PIII but do you have dual aka redundant power suplys too?

Well, it's my home server. I don't run it co-loc anywhere, so it's basically just a full server-style tower with a dual-CPU board in it. I really have no need for redundant PSU's for what I use it for. But dual processors eat power, especially the slot-2 architecture, so I wanted to make sure I had abundant power for the system. I have an optical drive and three hard drives in it now along with a video card, ATA controller, and NIC. I have room for an additional hard drive and optical drive so I needed a supply that would support the system's expandibility.

Here's a shot of my server:
Server Inside 1 (http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/0/j00/family/server_inside2.jpg)
Server Inside 2 (http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/0/j00/family/server_inside1.jpg)
Server Outside (http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/0/j00/family/server.jpg)
The tower behind it is what I'm posting with right now. That's my primary PC. :)

As for AMD, they make good CPU's don't get me wrong, but I have never had good experiences with them so I stick to Intel. Intel has never given me any issues when constructing PC's or with functionality. All instances of my dealings with AMD have not been good and the same goes for friends I know so I stand by Intel. But it's personal preference so I won't knock AMD, I just won't use them. :p

And I have the new TV Tuner Pro from ATI on my XP tower. ATI has also given me issues in the past - along the same lines as AMD. I just can't seem to have good experiences with them. So the TV tuner is all I have. I run nVidia cards for video - no issues with them so far in my dealings with them.

wow, a intel only user who doesnt knock intel, why cant more intel people be like you. ya ATI cards have a few driver issues but i ahvent had any problems with them either yet, teh AIW problem is just somethign that niether ATI or MS has a fix for and it is gettign annoying.

I love my AMD. I'm not totally computer learned, but i know enough how to put my own together, and how to point a big ass motherf'in fan at the AMD so that nothing goes wrong :p

gotta love having a 75 cfm fan on top of an slk 900 so that load temps read about 6 degrees above case temp.

As for AMD, they make good CPU's don't get me wrong, but I have never had good experiences with them so I stick to Intel. Intel has never given me any issues when constructing PC's or with functionality. All instances of my dealings with AMD have not been good and the same goes for friends I know so I stand by Intel. But it's personal preference so I won't knock AMD, I just won't use them. :p

And I have the new TV Tuner Pro from ATI on my XP tower. ATI has also given me issues in the past - along the same lines as AMD. I just can't seem to have good experiences with them. So the TV tuner is all I have. I run nVidia cards for video - no issues with them so far in my dealings with them.


Nice setup.

and about the issues with AMD and ATI is all about how you combine them with other components. I'm sure you have more experience with intel based so you stick with them There is nothing wrong with that. Intel still makes a good product i just prefer the AMD aproach to CPU architecture. Huge IPC with short pipelines at the expense of clock speeds than the intels with super long pipelines and high clocks. i just don't trust enough the algorithms to prevent branch mispredictions whick leads to latecy to clear and refil the pipeline.


But anyway I've been using both AMD and ATI now for years and had no problems(except during the bad driver period that ati had). What i usually do though when i build new systems is: besides the standard reasearch based on reviews I go to local computer parts stores. i know most of the guys working in them and I always ask how reliable each part is. They sell often hunderts of them and they have to fix them so they'll know if any componets have conflicts with each other or other issues.


gotta love having a 75 cfm fan on top of an slk 900 so that load temps read about 6 degrees above case temp.


I'll brag too. My arkua cooler keeps my 1800XP at ~34-36C in average and hardly even goes above 40C under full load. Its a top notch product. I just fell in love with it design when i saw it the first time at comdex two years ago, I got one on the spot too. I find it funny that despite the fact that is only a copper core my CPU runs cooler than one of my roomate's systems with a virtually identical setup but with a full copper heatsink.

Of course my helicopter-type-noise 5 extra case fans do help quite a bit.

Nice setup.

and about the issues with AMD and ATI is all about how you combine them with other components. I'm sure you have more experience with intel based so you stick with them There is nothing wrong with that. Intel still makes a good product i just prefer the AMD aproach to CPU architecture. Huge IPC with short pipelines at the expense of clock speeds than the intels with super long pipelines and high clocks. i just don't trust enough the algorithms to prevent branch mispredictions whick leads to latecy to clear and refil the pipeline.

But anyway I've been using both AMD and ATI now for years and had no problems(except during the bad driver period that ati had). What i usually do though when i build new systems is: besides the standard reasearch based on reviews I go to local computer parts stores. i know most of the guys working in them and I always ask how reliable each part is. They sell often hunderts of them and they have to fix them so they'll know if any componets have conflicts with each other or other issues.

I'll brag too. My arkua cooler keeps my 1800XP at ~34-36C in average and hardly even goes above 40C under full load. Its a top notch product. I just fell in love with it design when i saw it the first time at comdex two years ago, I got one on the spot too. I find it funny that despite the fact that is only a copper core my CPU runs cooler than one of my roomate's systems with a virtually identical setup but with a full copper heatsink.

Of course my helicopter-type-noise 5 extra case fans do help quite a bit.

I agree with AMD / ATI. Seems to be all in how you organize the hardware setup. Most of the time it's poor quality hardware in the first place (such as a poorly designed motherboard). They just seem to conflict with the products I prefer or issues just in general. I also know people who run AMD and ATI without issues. I just prefer Intel based on my own experiences. AMD CPU's run hotter as well, but that can be overcome with proper cooling. I built my roommate's PC with an AMD Athlon XP 1800. After getting things to work, it's performed very well and maintains a steady ~35C - 40C temperature. I have found these heatsinks to be the best I have ever used or seen, so I've been using them in all my PC's including the one for my roommate. I also have been using their heatsinks to cool my northbriges as well. I have been very pleased with them:

Alpha Novatech (http://www.alphanovatech.com/)

I also use Arctic Alumina thermal adhesive for the northbridge heatsinks and Arctic Alumina thermal compound for the CPU heatsinks. I have been very impressed with the combination of the two in regards to cooling and heat transfer.

Fans are a different choice. I used a Vantec Stealth 80x80mm for his heatsink since he didn't want a loud PC, and it still holds very good temperatures as stated above. Now if you want a hardcore fan, Delta can't be beat. I had a single 60x60mm Delta which output 50cfm, which is a lot for a 60x60. My roommate came home one day I had installed it and thought I was running the vaccuum cleaner. Seriously. It was that loud from a single 60x60. Blew my curtains around like you wouldn't believe. But it got old very fast, so since then I've been using nothing but the Vantec Stealth fans with great success. Their fans have proven their reliability and quietness as well as cooling ability. My dual CPU server has eight fans total if you count the two on the CPU's and the PSU fan. Honestly, the only one I hear is the PSU fan (remember, 510w supply :p). My tower has nine fans counting the same and two hard drive coolers and with the 425w PSU, I really don't hear it -- it's pretty quiet for that many fans.

As for computer stores, I used to work in one so I know first hand most people don't know what they're doing. The ones in the repair shop are the ones to talk to in a retail PC store. If you got some inside buddies there though, that's the way to do it. :)