Who Is Better Ford Or Chevy

WHO IS BETTER FORD OR CHEVY
:smoka: :bandit: :flamer: :rocket: :aug2:

Personally I am a Mopar man, but of the two I would have to pick Chevy.

I'd have to go with Chevy too if for no other reason then the Z06

Ford of course, yet some will argue that I am biased...:)

Ford of course;
History (Ford T, Mustang)
Way better looks, styling.
Sales more than Chevrolet
Safety

One great thing about Chevy though is the Corvette.

Chevy all the way!

Originally posted by Euro19
Ford of course;
History (Ford T, Mustang)
Way better looks, styling.
Sales more than Chevrolet
Safety

One great thing about Chevy though is the Corvette.

Well, thats a miscomparison. While history favors Ford, GM outsells Ford if you make a company comparison.

Looks? The Tarus is pretty sad and the Mustang is ok, but the Vette is a whole lot better, but thats jsut an opinion.

Safety? I recall the Explorer fiasco last year. If those are your comparisions, then you should change your vote. ;) :D

Originally posted by blacksnake98
Ford of course, yet some will argue that I am biased...:)


YOUR BIASED!!


Prophesy fulfilled


:D

always have been, always will be a chevy guy:)


i may be a little biased too ;)

Originally posted by YogsVR4


Well, thats a miscomparison. While history favors Ford, GM outsells Ford if you make a company comparison.

Looks? The Tarus is pretty sad and the Mustang is ok, but the Vette is a whole lot better, but thats jsut an opinion.

Safety? I recall the Explorer fiasco last year. If those are your comparisions, then you should change your vote. ;) :D

Gm outsells Ford of course it does!!!!!!!! look how many cars lines GM friggin has!!!!! Taurus Looks pretty sad..... the one's since 96 I agree but from 87-95 the taurus was the number 1 selling model, that's 8 years longer than any other model! Mustang is just ok? The must be something more than ok with them cuz they have outsold Camaro and Firebird together every year since 86'! GM is about to drop both those cars. As for the Vette, I agree the vette kicks ass! but comparing that to car to a Mustang isn't that a lil unfair? I'm mean maybe the $25,000 vs. $50,000 price tag isn't that big of a deal and I'm over reacting? As for the Explorer yes but I do remember a lil car problem Ralph Nader had with a Chevy Corvair but that's not important either right?

so if those are your comparisions MAYBE YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR VOTE?

Point is I driven mustangs my whole life and this is a pure opinion thing. I'll even be crazy an admit there are some GM's I like
But if your gonna try to make arguements make some that have some backing

I would never change my vote. And no, I wasn´t comparing the whole company sales, cause it´s obvious GM is ahead of Ford in sales, but as a brand: CHEVROLET and FORD, Ford outsell chevrolet so much.

Ford is only outsellig Chevy because of the F-series pick up trucks. They are neck in neck. ;) I say Chevy. :)

Actually no. If you are talking in the US, here it goes:
Taurus outsells Impala
Mustang outsells Camaro and took it out of bussiness
Explorer outsells Blazer and TrailBlazer
Escape outsells Tracker
Focus outsells Cavalier
ZX2 outsells Cavalier Z24
Contour outsells (or did) Malibu
Windstar outsells Venture
Expedition outsells Tahoe, or maybe tight
F-series outsells Silverado
Ranger outsells S-10
Corvette outsells tuned Mustang Cobras
SporTrack outsells Avalanche

and so on..........:D

CHEVY by far, hey for car parts go to the store of this site:Speedzone Autos (http://coolstuff4u.20megsfree.com) :sun:

How about what is better a turd or a piece of shit?

Originally posted by YogsVR4
about the explorer fiasco

THE EXPLORER FIASCO IF I RECALL THE BLAZER HAS KILLED MORE PEOPLE IN ITS FIASCO AND OUT OF THE 6 MILLION PLUS EXPLORERS SOLD THERE WAS ONLY 91 PEOPLE THAT DIED

http://www.fordfans1.homestead.com/FORDFAN1.html

FORD THE BEST NEVER REST

from a European point of view----the Corvette is ok, fast but not so good handling.

Chevy would probably have it except for one thing-----the GT40, not the new one, the legendary LeMans winner, so my vote goes to Ford.

I like em both, but I would actually vote for Pontiac if it was an option...

GTO's and Trans Ams (new and old style) are so much sexier than most Camaros, and way better than all Mustangs :P

-Grendel

i would go with chevy because they have a lot of quality cars and plus the only cars i like from ford are mustangs, cobras, GT40's, and GT90's and all the other companies that they own

Ford is better

Honda is the best

Chevy is way betta!:bandit: :smoka: :smoker2: :ylsuper

i think this is a very obviuos comparation.
Ford is much better that Chevrolet.
Chevrolet only has the Corvette
Ford has great cars as the Focus, Taurus, Mustang, all the hot SUVs, Windstar, Corwn Vic, Fiesta, all are much better that Chevy products, and that is traduced in the sales numbers

I agree w/ them ppl supportin ford.

Ford outsells GM in the world market. Ford makes a decent rally car. Ford makes decent small cars. Ford has SVT and Cosworth (well, they made cosworth, tho they may not have it anymore). Ford has history too.

Chevy has the Z06, thats all.

In general I prefer GM (and inherently Chevy), but I'm really interested in the prospect of a new GT40. :cool:

GM is the worlds largest company, and has been for some time.

I think that kinda sums it all up really.

One can't exist with out the other to enthusiast. Think about it. :) I'd say Chevy though. :cool:

Originally posted by Moppie
GM is the worlds largest company, and has been for some time.

I think that kinda sums it all up really.

Yeh but GM is made up of loads of departments. Who do you think is better out of the Chevrolet department or Ford

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R


Yeh but GM is made up of loads of departments. Who do you think is better out of the Chevrolet department or Ford

Its a completly pointless comparison.
Like comapring Mazda with GM.

Ford is also made up of a whole host of other manufactors.

Originally posted by Moppie


Its a completly pointless comparison.
Like comapring Mazda with GM.

Ford is also made up of a whole host of other manufactors.

yep, but i mean who do you think is better? Cars that have the Ford badge or cars that have the Chevrolet badge? regardless of the holding companies etc.

History (Ford T, Mustang)
safety

Fords history? Pinto? You know what Ford said about safety? "Safety doesn't sell" You know how much it would have cost to make the pinto safe? $5.08 a car.

""the Pinto was not to weigh an ounce over 2,000 pounds and not cost a cent over $2,000." Any modifications even if they did provide extra safety for the customer that brought the car closer to the Iacocca’s limits was rejected. "


"Washington - Safety officials have opened two new investigations into the Ford Focus, this time amid complaints that its engine can suddenly stall and the front suspension can collapse.

The government has begun six investigations into the subcompact this year. Tim Hurd, a spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, said Thursday that he could not recall the government's ever having as many investigations into one vehicle at the same time."

I'll go with Ford I think its the better of the two, when I was little I was crazy about american muscle, and the old T birds were nice now I realy don't like any american cars, maybe I hate them. They are the worst when it comes to reliability.

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R


yep, but i mean who do you think is better? Cars that have the Ford badge or cars that have the Chevrolet badge? regardless of the holding companies etc.


Agian its a pointless comparison.
Thanks to the wonders of badge enginering by both companys.

The Ford Escort/Lazer Mazda 323/Famila is a classic example.
Its a shit little shopping cart designed by Mazda under Ford ownership. (except the GTR, and BFMR models which are damn fast little buggers!)
However they are sold all over the world with either Ford or Mazda badges. And in some countrys like here in NZ with either or. You can goto a Ford dealer and buy a new Lazer, or go next door to Mazda and buy the same car with a differnt bumber and badge.

Pretty much anything with a Chevy badge on it (with the exception of the light Trucks) in the US is sold else where in the world with a Pontiac, or Holden, or Opel or Toyota badge on it.
Chevy through GM is much more involved in how it brands its vechiles for differnt markets, than Ford is. A company which once its taken over another auto maker prefers to slap its own badges on thier cars.

So to compare Ford with Chevy, you actualy have to compare Ford with GM. Since pretty much anywhere in the world, including the US Chevy = GM.

And based on that Comparison then if Ford didn't own most of the worth while British car makers then I would have to say GM, and certianly if you look at the $$ made then its clearly GM.
But Ford is doing a good job of letting Jaguar etc simply get on with doing what they do best. So despite the generally cheap and nasty hold the technology image I have of Ford models here in NZ, compared with GM products, the new Mondeo, and Mazda 6 as well as the new Jaguar XJ6 show that Ford is prehaps turning around and imbracing modern design ideas, and modern technology, and GM prehaps needs to watch its back.

Originally posted by Moppie
So to compare Ford with Chevy, you actualy have to compare Ford with GM. Since pretty much anywhere in the world, including the US Chevy = GM.

Thats a fact that is lost among a lot of people.

Euro19-Actually no. If you are talking in the US, here it goes:
Taurus outsells Impala
Mustang outsells Camaro and took it out of bussiness
Explorer outsells Blazer and TrailBlazer
Escape outsells Tracker
Focus outsells Cavalier
ZX2 outsells Cavalier Z24
Contour outsells (or did) Malibu
Windstar outsells Venture
Expedition outsells Tahoe, or maybe tight
F-series outsells Silverado
Ranger outsells S-10
Corvette outsells tuned Mustang Cobras
SporTrack outsells Avalanche

and so on..........

HA!
Blazer and TrailBlazer outsells Explorer
Tracker smokes Escape in sales
Cavalier outsells Focus
Cavalier Z24 outsells Zx2
Contour never did outsell Malibu
Tahoe outsells Expedition
Avalanche smokes SporTrack in sales

Taurus outsells Impala
Mustang outsells Camaro
Windstar outsells Venture
F-series outsells Silverado
Ranger outsells S-10
Corvette outsells tuned Mustang Cobras
Those I agree
but I travel a lot and I see a hell of a lot more Chevys on the road than i do Fords so I dont see how you came to your conclusion about all these Fords outselling Chevys.I also read up on these things a lot.Chevy outsells Ford by a long shot.We had a 1994 Taurus and when you shut the doors on that car it sounded like two tins cans hitting and it always caused us problems.I hated that damn car.Oh and Fliquer,in case you didnt know,GM holds the record for largest automotive sales in the WORLD.That means that GM sells more cars than any car manufacturer in the world in case I confused you.
Anyway,my vote definately goes to Chevy.

Chevy made the Nova... which is hands down the best car ever... :rolleyes: yeah i know im so full of shit my eyes are turning brown...:hehehe:


I vote Chevy, I own 3. And I'll probably own more.


So yeah, Chevy.


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Don´t get confused! I´m not comparing Ford to GM! But Ford to CHEVROLET, ok? And ofcourse GM sells more cars than Ford, even now that has Daewoo on its lists :p

Originally posted by Euro19
Don´t get confused! I´m not comparing Ford to GM! But Ford to CHEVROLET, ok?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Have we not just spent I dont know how many pages discussing the fact that due to the difernt company structures and marketing stratergies of Ford and GM that it is a totaly pointless and impossible comparison?

Originally posted by Moppie


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Have we not just spent I dont know how many pages discussing the fact that due to the difernt company structures and marketing stratergies of Ford and GM that it is a totaly pointless and impossible comparison?

GM is Chevy, Opel, Daewoo, and endless others. Ford motor group is Ford, Volvo etc. Chevrolet is NOT General Motors, they are owned by them, but they are a seperate brand name. Its like saying that you cant compare a Mercedes SL55 with a Chrysler Viper because they are owned by the same company.

What is youre favourite Chevrolet or Ford?

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R


What is youre favourite Chevrolet or Ford?


Favorite Chevy: Lotus Carlton.
Favorite Ford: Jaguar X type.

:finger:

chevy!:D

Favorite Chevy: Lotus Carlton.Favorite Ford: Jaguar X type.






Not Ford Motor Group,just Ford itself.Like Escort,Taurus or Mustang.Ive never heard of a Chevy Lotus Carlton?What is it?

Originally posted by CopperHed210







Not Ford Motor Group,just Ford itself.

There is no distinction between the two.

and the Lotus Carlton is an Opel Omega with a Lotus enginered Suspension set up, and a Lotus enginered Twin Turbo version of the Opel 3.0L inline 6 cyclinder engine.
The Opel Omega was redesigned and sold as the Holden Comodore in Australia and NZ, and was then rebadge and sold in LHD as the Chevy Lumina in the Middle East. The Holden was then Tuned by HSV to get the Clubsport Senator models etc etc etc.
Holden version of the Omgea was then further reengered and sold in the US as the Chevy Caprice, and the orginal Holden design was rebadged by Toyota and sold in Japan and the US as a Toyota.

The same basic GM Opel design was therefore sold all over the world with engine configerations ranging from a 2L 4cly, a 3l inline 6, a 3.8L V6, a 5L V8, and a 5.7L V8, and badged as an Opel, a Holden, an HSV, a Toyota and a Chevy and a Lotus.

And of course there are Ford models like the Australian Ford Falcon, the rear suspension of which is used in many of the new Jaguar Models.
Infact in the EL version of the Ausie Fairmont (upmarket Falcon) there were even trim peices shared with the Jags, and of course the New Ford Mondeo in Europe uses the same V6 engine found in the new Jags, and which next year should find its way into the Ausie Fords.
Same with the new Quad Cam Ford V8.

There is no distinction between the two.





Yes there is.Ford Motor Group includes Jaguar,Lincoln,Volvo,Mercury,Etc.
This Thread is a comparision between Ford,not including Jaguar,Lincoln or Volvo, and Chevy, not including GM.So yea,there is a difference between Ford and Ford Motor Group.

Originally posted by CopperHed210
Yes there is.Ford Motor Group includes Jaguar,Lincoln,Volvo,Mercury,Etc.
This Thread is a comparision between Ford,not including Jaguar,Lincoln or Volvo, and Chevy, not including GM.So yea,there is a difference between Ford and Ford Motor Group.


So what about Ford Europe? Or Ford Japan? or Ford Australia? Or Chevy in the Middle East? or in Australia? or in Europe?


Or how about trying to understand THAT THERE IS NO POSSIBLE DISTINCTION BETWEEN "FORD MOTOR GROUP" AND CARS WITH A FORD BADGE, JUST LIKE THERE IS NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN GM AND CARS WITH A CHEVY BADGE! :mad:

i'm a stallion guy, what can I say I love the old pony cars. especially the old shelby stangs.:D

[QUOTE]So what about Ford Europe? Or Ford Japan? or Ford Australia? Or Chevy in the Middle East? or in Australia? or in Europe? Or how about trying to understand THAT THERE IS NO POSSIBLE DISTINCTION BETWEEN "FORD MOTOR GROUP" AND CARS WITH A FORD BADGE, JUST LIKE THERE IS NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN GM AND CARS WITH A CHEVY BADGE! [QOUTE]




Ok smarty.I see you are still not getting what we are compareing in this thread.
WE ARE COMPARING FORD AND CHEVY.IN THIS CASE WHEN WE SAY FORD,WE ARE NOT INCLUDING THE OTHER MAKES THAT FORD MAKES.WE ARE INCLUDING FORD AND JUST FORD BECAUSE YOU SEE,YOUR FAVORITE FORD YOU SAID WAS A JAGUAR.NOW THATS OK BUT IN THIS THREAD WE A NOT INCLUDING JAGUAR.JUST FORD.
ARE YOU GETINNG IT YET.MAYBE NOT.YOUR CHOICES IN THIS CASE ARE EITHER TAURUS,MUSTANG,PROBE,ESCORT,EXCURSION,EXPEDITION,E XPLORER,WINDSTAR,F-SERIES, AND WHAT EVER CARS THEY HAVE MADE IN THE PAST,OR FORD EUROPE,JAPAN AND OTHER COUNTRY THAT MAKE FORD CARS.NOT JAGUAR OR VOLVO OR OTHER CAR COMPANY OWNED BY FORD.
WITH CHEVY YOUR CHOICES ARE CHEVY VEHICLES,NOT INCLUDING GEO.
NOW I SURE AS HELL HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY NOW.

Originally posted by CopperHed210


Ok smarty.I see you are still not getting what we are compareing in this thread.
WE ARE COMPARING FORD AND CHEVY.IN THIS CASE WHEN WE SAY FORD,WE ARE NOT INCLUDING THE OTHER MAKES THAT FORD MAKES.WE ARE INCLUDING FORD AND JUST FORD BECAUSE YOU SEE,YOUR FAVORITE FORD YOU SAID WAS A JAGUAR.NOW THATS OK BUT IN THIS THREAD WE A NOT INCLUDING JAGUAR.JUST FORD.
ARE YOU GETINNG IT YET.MAYBE NOT.YOUR CHOICES IN THIS CASE ARE EITHER TAURUS,MUSTANG,PROBE,ESCORT,EXCURSION,EXPEDITION,E XPLORER,WINDSTAR,F-SERIES, AND WHAT EVER CARS THEY HAVE MADE IN THE PAST,OR FORD EUROPE,JAPAN AND OTHER COUNTRY THAT MAKE FORD CARS.NOT JAGUAR OR VOLVO OR OTHER CAR COMPANY OWNED BY FORD.
WITH CHEVY YOUR CHOICES ARE CHEVY VEHICLES,NOT INCLUDING GEO.
NOW I SURE AS HELL HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY NOW.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Ok then:


I think what you really need to say is:
Compare cars sold in US market with a Ford badge, with cars sold on the US market with a Chevy badge.
Becasue its the only place in the world where a distinction is falsely made between Ford badged cars and Ford motor group, and Chevy badged cars, and GM.
It's all part of the Marketing stratergys of both companys, and is done to attract the less educated and culturaly ignorant buyer that seems to inhabbit certian parts of the US.
The rest of the US car buying population is however aware of the lack of distinction (see posts further back in the thread for examples) and simply dosnt care.

So on the dark side of the moon where ever the hell that is a Ford Taurus,well,what you people have over there,can also be considered a Jaguar?Because apparently that is what you are saying,there is no difference between a Jaguar and a Ford Taurus.Hmm,thats pretty funny.Though Ford owns Jaguar,there is a HUGE difference between the two.Taurus is a econo box,a Jag is not.Jag is a luxery car,Taurus is not.And in this particular thread,we are separating the two makes of vehicles.We are not talking about Jaguar.What is your favorite Ford car Moppie?

Originally posted by CopperHed210
So on the dark side of the moon where ever the hell that is a Ford Taurus,well.......,we are separating the two makes of vehicles.We are not talking about Jaguar.What is your favorite Ford car Moppie?


We don't have cars on the dark side of the moon. Only moon buggys. :finger:


You are completly failing to understand what Im saying.
But if you want to make a distinction between cars with a Ford badge, and cars made by Ford Motor group you are quite welcome to.
However it is wrong to do so, and a full explanation of why exists with in this thread.

No,you are failing to get what I am saying.Just tell us what your favorite Ford car is.And after that I will set you up for an appiontment for people that have the I cant understand simple things disease.Can you understand that?

Originally posted by Moppie

You are completly failing to understand what Im saying.


nope, i know exactly what your saying, just as you know what i am saying. so can you just answer the question? do you prefer the cars that carry the Ford badge, or the cars that carry a Chevrolet badge?? and dont try and twist it again!;)

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R

do you prefer the cars that carry the Ford badge, or the cars that carry a Chevrolet badge?? and dont try and twist it again!;)


Aha! You are one of the Smart ones! :)
You have made a distinction between cars that carry the badge, and cars made by the manufactor.

In which case I have never honestly been a big fan of Fords, but my Favorite would have to be one of the Special edition MK1 or MK2 Escorts.
Either the Mexico, or Lotus, or RS1600 or RS2000. All great fun little cars, and in the 60s and 70s the equivlant of my Civic.

My Favorite Chevy would have to be the Corvette. Any year, and any model. The best Bristish infulenced Chassis with a great thumping American V8.

my Favorite would have to be one of the Special edition MK1 or MK2 Escorts




There ya go.Thats what we were asking.

Originally posted by CopperHed210

There ya go.Thats what we were asking.


No, wrong again.
Reread all the posts for the last 4 pages, what your were asking was something quite different.

No,actually your wrong again.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R ---What is youre favourite Chevrolet or Ford? [QUOTE]




Remember that in the 3rd page?Come on,I understand you arent the brightest thing that ever walked the earth but try and think before you post.

Originally posted by GTStang


Mustang is just ok? The must be something more than ok with them cuz they have outsold Camaro and Firebird together every year since 86'! GM is about to drop both those cars.

Your right the Stang has out-sold the F-bodys combined, but if you look at the numbers, the base models (V6 for the SN95 bodys and 4 cylinder for the Foxes) have been the big sellers, while more V8 F-body have been sold than the V8 Stang, and over half of Mustang sales are to Women. :D Just thought I'd add that.

Originally posted by Euro19
I would never change my vote. And no, I wasn´t comparing the whole company sales, cause it´s obvious GM is ahead of Ford in sales, but as a brand: CHEVROLET and FORD, Ford outsell chevrolet so much.

Yea the Focus is a good car to use, it's only the most recalled car in history. If the wheels don's fall off it will blow up!!!:p

Originally posted by Fliquer
I agree w/ them ppl supportin ford.

Ford outsells GM in the world market. Ford makes a decent rally car. Ford makes decent small cars. Ford has SVT and Cosworth (well, they made cosworth, tho they may not have it anymore). Ford has history too.

Chevy has the Z06, thats all.

Acually GM outsells every other car maker in the world, they also have the most brands. SVT has only made one car that is worth anything and it is the 03 Cobra, and for a S/C'ed 4.6 Cobra motor those numbers a weak. Everyone thinks the Cobra is an ass fast car, but sadly it's not. Unless it's on '03. :D

Hey Black_97'Z,I like your Camaro a lot.Damn nice car you got there.

Originally posted by CopperHed210
Hey Black_97'Z,I like your Camaro a lot.Damn nice car you got there.

Thanks! :)

Originally posted by blacksnake98
Ford of course, yet some will argue that I am biased...:)

Same with me! Ford girl all the way!