Civic Type R vs Integra GS-R

A buddy and I went out tonight to see who's car was faster from a dig and from different speeds at a roll. I've got an intake and exhaust, and he's got a header, exhaust, and suspension. Well from a dig I spun a bit off the line but still put his nose at my tail, but he gained up to about 60 where we shut down and my nose was at his tail.

We slowed to about 45 on the freeway and on the third honk I started nudging ahead in second, stayed through third, and he reeled me in through 4th, passing me in 5th and we shut down around 115.

Rolled from a 65 and I nudged ahead through 3rd, then he freaking reeled me in again through 4th and took me. I did have my whole wood/carpet/sub crap in the hatch, but that probably wouldn't have mattered too much if it wasn't there. I guess the 1.8's higher torque does make a difference when racing..

you been to the track yet? man get rid of that shyt in your hatch you dont need it, gut that fuker!

don't listen to him :P Keep your tunes

65 is a horrible roll speed for a gsr, they redline at 65 in second so basically you have to drop it into third, 70 or 80 wouldve been a much better roll speed for the integra

i swear you should be killing these integra's, i dont have a problem with them only 1 has truly spanked me but he runs 13.0 all day long

look at it this way,you did a B16B motor swap. i still give you more props.

BTW i was reading something on the net where this guy was running his JDM B18C and he did a test with intakes. turns out it runs faster with the stock air box than the AEM CAI.
maybe its time to sacrafice the sound for the horsepower haha.

alright, alright --- i dont know if you guys are calling me out or something- but to the young man who takes integras all day but only gets beat by one running a 13 second 1/4, what happened to all the integras running 14's? cause they'll hang with/beat you
ps -- just reading all of your weight posts and shit almost made me think about considering putting my car on a diet plan, but im glad i didn't, i ran over a screw :eek: this weekend and was extremely happy to have my spare and all the neccesary tools in my trunk, i remeber thinking to myself, thank god i didnt take this stuff out

a guy on the internet did a test and he was running faster with his stock airbox? thats news to me, i wouldnt mind seeing the link, also is it only the AEM CAI that did it or were other brands of CAI's doing it as well?

i have no idea,it was a long time ago and my memory sucks any ways.my friend also told me the same thing though and hes got a 95 coupe with a JDM B!8C.

a guy on the internet did a test and he was running faster with his stock airbox? thats news to me, i wouldnt mind seeing the link, also is it only the AEM CAI that did it or were other brands of CAI's doing it as well?


yea i thought AEM dyno proved all of thier intakes to give more hp .... anyways that was a hell of a match up , one i wouldve paid to see ... i love watching different hondas duke it out .... go GSR haha

GS-R's and CTR's are very much alike, ctr having a bit more hp and gsr having more torque. That's probably why he kept taking me in the higher speeds... who knows, maybe there's something wrong with my engine?

ive beaten every gsr i have raced except for an internally built one

im not trying to say i will beat all but i mean i inched on a 02 gsr with i/h/e vafc and a skunk 2 IM and those mods are way more than i have but then again my car is way lighter maybe i have a freak motor? im going to the track again friday maybe i can get my times down even more and if so...i have never heard of an ls swapped civic/crx going so fast with such little mods

i remember one member ran a 15.5 with his in his hatch
and numerous members have run 14.8-15.0 with their b16 swaps...as i can remember and there was a b16 hatch at the track who ran a 14.7 maybe i have a freak motor...or i can just drive well

what are the tq specs on the b16b? my friend has a gsr in a 97 cx but has yet to run at the track i keep pushing him to but no beans yet

Stock it has 118.. intake and exhaust, I don't know, 120-125..?

your numbers are definetly good, i mean, you can compare those to the stock times of some serious cars - ITR - RX-8 - 350z(~14.4) - wrx - damn bro, you got a freak ls motor

hopefully quicker friday night

no doubt torque helps out alot i just thought the extra hp put out by your motor would make up for it

hopefully get 14.5-14.6 friday night with another trick up my sleve if not gonna get some new tires and go from there

i dont know exactly what you meant by this "no doubt torque helps out alot i just thought the extra hp put out by your motor would make up for it" but with the times your running, if you had a b18c1 in your car youd be hitting 14's flat

no i meant i would figure his extra hp would help out with him lacking in torque...

if i had a gsr i would run very quickly after getting used to the extra power ofcoarse

Ricochet, your car without the sound sistem, stock for stock should run with an integra type R, not GSR. ITR are a tad faster than CTRs but CTRs are faster than GSRS, with mods, i would guess the GSR would respond better to the modifications, but you always got him, just at high speeds it he pulled on you.

ok, i just looked up the b16b engine cause i wasn't sure what it was, i just assumed it was a 170 hp jdm 1.6 liter because my friend said he did a jdm b16 swap into his car and it had 170 stock, but now i see that the b16b has 185 hp stock, man , why werent you whipping him

- and btw mexsir in the first race "he pulled all the way to 60" which means he started pulling probably at like 40, thats not a high speed

ricochet has a speed limiter at 125.


i know for a fact that gsr's will go to up around 140...maybe higher.

if thats what you mean by high speeds, the gsr is going to take (at least ricochets car) all day long. but i would think that up around 110-125, ricochets ctr is gonna pull on the gsr.

I don't know why I didn't beat him, it's not like it takes driving skills to race in a straight line from a freeway roll. Maybe there's something wrong with the engine? hmm..

what are the weight differences, aside from the shit you put on (like your sunroof and subs)...between the CTR and your hatch...stock for stock. if i was there watching this race you wouldve lost me a shitload of money.

what are you pushing RPM-wise at 125 when you bump the speed limiter? i was just talking to a gsr kid this morning about the fastest he has gone in his car...etc. if this is the case (that you really did get beat for legitamate reasons), your in for an ass whoopin when it starts dryin' up around here.

what are the weight differences, aside from the shit you put on (like your sunroof and subs)...between the CTR and your hatch...stock for stock. if i was there watching this race you wouldve lost me a shitload of money.
The ctr weighs 2310lbs, and my car weighs 2300lbs (stock, DX engine). So, with the extra weight from the engine, my moonroof, carpet/wood, and subs, I probably weigh 200 more than that, which is about 100lbs less than a GSR. This weekend I'm gutting all that shit and taking the silencer off my muffler to hopefully kick the shit out of him.

you should take him if you do what you say your going to do


"but i would think that up around 110-125, ricochets ctr is gonna pull on the gsr." you would, but he didnt

The ctr weighs 2310lbs, and my car weighs 2300lbs (stock, DX engine). So, with the extra weight from the engine, my moonroof, carpet/wood, and subs, I probably weigh 200 more than that, which is about 100lbs less than a GSR. This weekend I'm gutting all that shit and taking the silencer off my muffler to hopefully kick the shit out of him.
got room for another in that race?

got room for another in that race?
I already put you in my rear view mufucca!
You can join Saturday if we have cruise. It's probably going to be nice out so there will be like 20-30 cars in this one.

civichbsi91....u said u beat a 02 integra gsr...they stopped making integra's in 01...hmmm

simple mistake asshole 1 is next to 2 on the keyboard

nice races...glad to hear some ppl are getting to race.

teg ownz j00 :icon16:

j/k...nice times tho civic, sounds like u've gotten a decent little set-up over the last 11 weeks.

yo was up people i am a newbie on this site i was lookin for wat motor would be best to go with a B16b typer R or a B18C typer R for my civic hb right now im running a zc motor but i want something more

Ibtl!

yo was up people i am a newbie on this site i was lookin for wat motor would be best to go with a B16b typer R or a B18C typer R for my civic hb right now im running a zc motor but i want something more

You're in the wrong section, bringing back a 3 year old thread. Learn to use the internets. There's a section for Civics. You may want to try other sites as well, such as honda-tech.com. have a nice day.

...a B16b typer R or a B18C typer R...

Im not an expert on civics, but isn't it "Type R" "not Typer R"? :lol2: And btw, like Twizted_3KGT said, wrong section! IBL!

yo was up people i am a newbie on this site i was lookin for wat motor would be best to go with a B16b typer R or a B18C typer R for my civic hb right now im running a zc motor but i want something more

Yo wat up my nizzle!!! Yo I tink you might wanna read da forum rules. Dis shiznit is like 3 motha-f-in years old... Werd to yo Mutha sucka.....


IBTL

Lmao......ibtl

honestly, it depends what you are looking for.... a high reving monster, or something that with bolt-ons that will fun.

after all this, do you actually have about 4-5k for this swap?

well thak all the people with helpfull info but for the rest of yall suck my mother fuckin dick fags