Camaro vs. Prelude
94Camaro3.4
03-22-2004, 05:33 PM
Will a 1994 3.4L Camaro 5-speed with no mods beat a 1992 Honda Prelude Si? Both auto or stick ( no mods) I am told that the Prelude had the advantage. Lets just asume that both drivers are equal.
DaMoNe6969
03-22-2004, 05:41 PM
Im gonna put my money on the Prelude..
a/t? m/t?
They both have relativly the same horsepower (maro should have a little more torque) but the Camaro is quite a bit heavier
a/t? m/t?
They both have relativly the same horsepower (maro should have a little more torque) but the Camaro is quite a bit heavier
Joseph1082
03-22-2004, 07:20 PM
Does the prelude have the h22? h22's are rated at 200hp.
89IROC&RS
03-22-2004, 07:58 PM
never been to impressed by a prelude, dad had an '89, and worked at a honda dealership. never liked em, i would say the camaro, but then again, never was too impressed with V6 camaros either
drvngstorm05
03-22-2004, 08:41 PM
i put my money on the camaro, my old 92 rs 305 tbi w/ 140,000+mi auto wooped up on more than one prelude, including the brand new ones. and i have been told by many people that the 4th gen v6's sometimes outperform the 3rd gen v8's. besides, even if the prelude wins; racing a honda is like racing in the special olympics, when or lose, ur still retarded :rofl:.
p.s. nobody flame me for that... its just a wise crack i heard today and wanted to say it
p.s. nobody flame me for that... its just a wise crack i heard today and wanted to say it
Chevyracincamaro
03-22-2004, 10:19 PM
prelude. ive owned both cars in question and unfortunately the prelude would win...
Joseph1082
03-23-2004, 01:05 AM
Don't forget, this isn't even the 3800, this is the 3.4, 160hp heavy camaro against a 200hp lighter prelude, 3800 would probably win, more torque, but not the 3.4!!
Chevyracincamaro
03-23-2004, 01:10 AM
the 92 preludes did not have 200 hp, it only had like 150 at the most probably but the power to weight ratio is sooo much better than the maro...
Joseph1082
03-23-2004, 01:15 AM
I thought he said it had the H22A, my bad
DaMoNe6969
03-23-2004, 01:43 AM
No, both the prelude engine and the Maro engine should be about 160hp, But the Prelude's got about 155 ftlbs, and the camaro a 200 ft lb torque rating
The Camaro is about 400 pounds heavier, maybe a little more.. The marow *might take it off the line, but the prelude will no doubt come out ahead
The Camaro is about 400 pounds heavier, maybe a little more.. The marow *might take it off the line, but the prelude will no doubt come out ahead
Ludeman
03-23-2004, 06:29 PM
well here is the real answer for all yall that wanna know I raced 94Camaro3.4 about a week ago in my little 4 banger prelude and to be nice about it i won. Hes just trying to see if his car was supposed to win or not
publicenemy137
03-23-2004, 08:42 PM
prelude, weighs a lot less. Also don't downplay VTEC, it does help. (assuming it's the DOHC VTEC type)
Chevyracincamaro
03-23-2004, 08:52 PM
VTEC is crap, doesnt do anything. all the honda techs and drivers just want you to think that it makes a huge difference...
azn3000GTRacer
03-23-2004, 09:02 PM
VTEC is crap, doesnt do anything. all the honda techs and drivers just want you to think that it makes a huge difference...
LOL VTEC is crap huh. You will say that when one these days a lil civic or something like that comes and blows ur ass away. I know the LS1 can beat a new prelude but put the prelude up against the so great 3800 series v6 the prelude would rape the shit out of it. Hondas arent ment for out of the factory performance that's why they have so much after market parts. So a real car enthusiast can tune and make combination to see how fast you can get that 4 cylinder to go.
LOL VTEC is crap huh. You will say that when one these days a lil civic or something like that comes and blows ur ass away. I know the LS1 can beat a new prelude but put the prelude up against the so great 3800 series v6 the prelude would rape the shit out of it. Hondas arent ment for out of the factory performance that's why they have so much after market parts. So a real car enthusiast can tune and make combination to see how fast you can get that 4 cylinder to go.
Chevyracincamaro
03-23-2004, 09:19 PM
well i dont want to start another one of "those" threads so, whatever you say...
94V6Camaro3.4
03-23-2004, 09:24 PM
Well, actually, ive done this race before, lol. I have an a/t 94 v6 3.4, and my buddy owns a 95 h23 prelude with m/t. We raced and he whooped my butt by about 2 1/2 car lenght doing a 1/4 mile. Hes got a stock car. ive got a whole catback dual exhaust system.
94Camaro3.4
03-23-2004, 10:01 PM
The Prelude doesn't have a V-TEC. They didn't have the V-TEC in 1992. In 93 they came out with the vtec on the h22. The h23 doesn't have the v-tec b/c it is a bigger engine. They basically phased out the h23 and replaced it with the h22 v-tec. But this is all FYI.
publicenemy137
03-24-2004, 12:09 AM
VTEC doesn't suck, it actually does help. A lot of my friends who are mechanics and love domestic cars only even admit that VTEC is great technology that they'd like to have in their American engine. Imagine a V8 engine with Variable valve timing, that would be awesome.
state69champ
04-12-2004, 11:04 PM
azn3000GTRacer , Your a loser.. It was never meant to be a sports car. so dont "TRY" make it one.. F AND F has every one confused.
state69champ
04-12-2004, 11:08 PM
also... who gives a fuck about a V6 camaro... and if you want the best demestic engine you get a LS1
MaxCamaroZ28
04-12-2004, 11:44 PM
VTEC is great, if you think it doesn't do anything for those little 4-bangers, think again, thats why those things can keep up with you. Just go to www.howstuffworks.com, type in Variable Valve timing. All the major domestic builders are getting into VVT, helps create the power you need in your max power RPM band. Major upgrade from pushrod technology which domestics have been using since the 60s... and earlier.
-The 3.4 is 160hp with 200lbs of Torque weighing in at 3247lbs
-The 3.8 is 200hp with 225lbs of Torque weighing in at 3323lbs
-The pre-VTEC (VVT) Prelude is around 160hp with 156lbs of Torque weighing in at 2987lbs
-The VTEC (VVT) Prelude is around 195hp with 156lbs of Torque weighing in at 3042lbs
So from the HP torque and weight, and considering you had equal drivers i'd say the Camaro V6 3.4 and the Pre-VTEC lude would give eachother a race while the Camaro V6 3800 and the VTEC lude would give eachother a race. Both the 3800 and the 2.2liter VTEC would be able to beat the 3.4 and the 2.3 pre-vtec.
-The 3.4 is 160hp with 200lbs of Torque weighing in at 3247lbs
-The 3.8 is 200hp with 225lbs of Torque weighing in at 3323lbs
-The pre-VTEC (VVT) Prelude is around 160hp with 156lbs of Torque weighing in at 2987lbs
-The VTEC (VVT) Prelude is around 195hp with 156lbs of Torque weighing in at 3042lbs
So from the HP torque and weight, and considering you had equal drivers i'd say the Camaro V6 3.4 and the Pre-VTEC lude would give eachother a race while the Camaro V6 3800 and the VTEC lude would give eachother a race. Both the 3800 and the 2.2liter VTEC would be able to beat the 3.4 and the 2.3 pre-vtec.
Invictus
04-13-2004, 01:49 PM
i had a 93 grand prix se with the 3.4. and i took a few preludes in that pos...not sure if they were vtech or not because i was never behind them to see the vtech decal. ofcourse i had my behind stomped by quite a few lil import cars during the year i had that car. but i would have to agree with maxcamero on what the outcomes would be. i also raced a new 2000 camero with the 3.8 and he owned my 3.4 with ease.
azn3000GTRacer
04-13-2004, 09:19 PM
also... who gives a fuck about a V6 camaro... and if you want the best demestic engine you get a LS1
LOL whoa whoa whoa who said anything bout FandF. Honda tuning was around more than a decade before that movie ever came out. And yes lol and if u say the prelude wasent ment for perforamance then ur just jewing ur self cause one these days u gonna come across a civic or a lude and thier gonna rip u a new hole. Cause a car that wasent ment for performance beats a perforamance car, lol that's just funny to think about. "VTEC" what's that then? that's strictly for performance.
LOL whoa whoa whoa who said anything bout FandF. Honda tuning was around more than a decade before that movie ever came out. And yes lol and if u say the prelude wasent ment for perforamance then ur just jewing ur self cause one these days u gonna come across a civic or a lude and thier gonna rip u a new hole. Cause a car that wasent ment for performance beats a perforamance car, lol that's just funny to think about. "VTEC" what's that then? that's strictly for performance.
KaotiKCamaro5
04-13-2004, 09:34 PM
a stock 3.4L no.. being the Camaro enthusiest that i am would even say that. But a Prelude against my 93 3.4L, and the Honda would be eatin the dust for a week.
89IROC&RS
04-13-2004, 10:42 PM
hmmm, what mods to make hondas fast, turbo? springs? tires? nitrous? cams? hmmmm, so to make the playing feild fair.....
even using a weak sixer camaro, lets turbocharge it, put performance tires and springs on it, a nitrous system, aftemarket cams, and then put it up against your VTEC honda. and see who wins. i love how honda guys talk like we cant modify camaros either. geeze fast is fast, ill respect anyone who is faster than me. unless they are super rice, or dicks about it. simple as that.
even using a weak sixer camaro, lets turbocharge it, put performance tires and springs on it, a nitrous system, aftemarket cams, and then put it up against your VTEC honda. and see who wins. i love how honda guys talk like we cant modify camaros either. geeze fast is fast, ill respect anyone who is faster than me. unless they are super rice, or dicks about it. simple as that.
Joseph1082
04-14-2004, 02:03 AM
2 things... 1, Turbocharged sixer f-body that kicks major ass, the Turo GTA... and import guys think that american muscle is v8 vs. import tech Turbo, ummm, I do believe the 3.8 Turbo monster was there first, or at the same time, but did it better, still does.
Chevyracincamaro
04-14-2004, 11:50 AM
two words...grand national
Joseph1082
04-14-2004, 04:24 PM
Zactly!!!
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