D16a6 to D16z6 Swap... motor wont start
Blk89CrxSi
03-21-2004, 10:41 AM
I did a d16z6 swap on my 89 Crx Si. I replace the 89 dizzy with the 92-95 dizzy. I dunno if I wired it correctly, but all of my spark plugs get spark. I also am getting fuel to my fuel rail. I have all the componets I need for the motor to start excepts for getting fuel through my injectors. How do I get the fuel into my motor? Did I wire something wrong? My harness is still the same and I plugged everything in right. Please help!!!!!!
bambam89lx
03-21-2004, 12:04 PM
well, are you running obd1 or obdo? if so, i don't think u can use the 92-95 dizzy 'less u convert to obd1. If you are still using ur si wiring harness, then you have to bolt up an 88-91 si dizzy.
marked001
03-21-2004, 08:30 PM
...from your description, it sounds like you're using OBD0 electronics..right? if so...throw the si dizzy back on... and if you didnt change any wiring, you should wire the injectors up the way they were....
TeamDraZtiK
03-21-2004, 09:28 PM
why couldn't he use the z6 dizzy?? they have the same amount of wires, same colors... just take your Si distributor clips and cut them off and cut off the z6 dizzy clips and re-wire, or is that what you did already? if so that shouldn't be problem.
does the 92-95 civic ex/si's have the injector resistor box???? find that out.. the 88-91 Si harness does but i dunno if the rest do..
does the 92-95 civic ex/si's have the injector resistor box???? find that out.. the 88-91 Si harness does but i dunno if the rest do..
Hammer Head
03-21-2004, 10:19 PM
wont work unless you go back to 88-91si dizzy ,and go back to peak and hold injectors with resister box
TeamDraZtiK
03-21-2004, 10:35 PM
why wouldn't it work?
Hammer Head
03-21-2004, 10:55 PM
why wouldn't it work?
obd1 uses saturated injectors thats why it wont work ,also you are better off using your 88-91 si intake manifold. just use the bare engine and bolt on your 88-91 dizzy and manifold with your injectors and ressister box and she will start up ,no prob.
obd1 uses saturated injectors thats why it wont work ,also you are better off using your 88-91 si intake manifold. just use the bare engine and bolt on your 88-91 dizzy and manifold with your injectors and ressister box and she will start up ,no prob.
Hammer Head
03-21-2004, 10:57 PM
you will have to modify your dizzy a bit
TeamDraZtiK
03-22-2004, 12:00 AM
but what if you are using DSM 450cc injectors, will it work then?
91lxdreamer
03-22-2004, 12:01 AM
Damn those are huge injectors
90civicracer
03-22-2004, 12:02 AM
Yeah 450's are huge, espcially for our car. Is your car turbo'd right now or what?
TeamDraZtiK
03-22-2004, 12:02 AM
boost baby!!! but will it work then or not?
91lxdreamer
03-22-2004, 12:03 AM
I dont know man, were just here to whore it up baby, Ill check around and see what I can find
90civicracer
03-22-2004, 12:05 AM
PSSHHHHHHHHHHHHT...What kind of turbo set-up are you going to get and about how much psi you going to run?
TeamDraZtiK
03-22-2004, 12:06 AM
alright cool, it seems like it would work, if it gives spark out through the wires... whats the problem then??? i don't get it
91lxdreamer
03-22-2004, 12:06 AM
Whats it do when you try to start? Does it crank, or nothin at all..what?
TeamDraZtiK
03-22-2004, 12:10 AM
its almost done until i heard that the dizzy won't work.....
RHB5 turbo
DSM 450cc injectors
DSM SMIC
DSM bov
V-AFC
ZC hybrid tranny w/LSD
13LB flywheel
Exedy Organic Clutch
stock actuator at ~8psi
stock internals also..
RHB5 turbo
DSM 450cc injectors
DSM SMIC
DSM bov
V-AFC
ZC hybrid tranny w/LSD
13LB flywheel
Exedy Organic Clutch
stock actuator at ~8psi
stock internals also..
90civicracer
03-22-2004, 12:11 AM
Ahh i see...well good luck and let us know if you go to the track, keep us posted.
91lxdreamer
03-22-2004, 12:12 AM
So what now man, have you tried both of em?
TeamDraZtiK
03-22-2004, 12:12 AM
haven't tried, i'm 1 week away from starting it, now i gotta do more shit.. this sucks ass
91lxdreamer
03-22-2004, 12:13 AM
That sucks man, well let us know the progress, any more help just ask.
TeamDraZtiK
03-22-2004, 12:15 AM
i converted the z6 dizzy plugs to the si harness plugs so i can connect them, but now i gotta modify the stupid a6 dizzy that i have no idea how i'm suppose to do it.. big washers like before but i dont' know where its at for timing..
90civicracer
03-22-2004, 12:28 AM
About how much HP you think you're going to be looking at when all said and done?
TeamDraZtiK
03-22-2004, 12:29 AM
hoping 170whp 150wtq.... not sure tho..
91lxdreamer
03-22-2004, 12:30 AM
Way to get the mood and morale back up mike, keep those spirits high
90civicracer
03-22-2004, 12:31 AM
ummmm not sure what that meant...but those should be solid numbers especially for a light 4g.
91lxdreamer
03-22-2004, 12:35 AM
wtq im guessin is torque at the wheels...lol who knows, esplain...esplain it mayne
90civicracer
03-22-2004, 12:38 AM
WHP is wheel horsepower and WTQ is wheel torque...aka horsepower at the wheels and torque at the wheels, not at the flywheel. Goodnight.
TeamDraZtiK
03-22-2004, 12:46 AM
Okay i put back on the a6 dizzy to the z6 head.. how would i know what 0 degrees is? would i read from the top mounting bolt place? would center be 0 degrees or what? help me out!!!
Blk89CrxSi
03-22-2004, 05:51 AM
So I need to put my 89-91 dizzy back on? What is the resistor in the 92-95 dizz? In the swap I did use my intake. Thats what the sites said to use. So my injectors will fire if I go back to my old dizzy?
Blk89CrxSi
03-22-2004, 05:52 AM
When I crank it it just cranks, it sounds like it wants to start it just doesn't.
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