AM I to small for an R-6
R-6
03-21-2004, 12:59 AM
Hi everybody I have a quick question everybody says that the 600cc bikes are deadly is that true but one thing is that I'm only 5'5 and weight 130 what is the right bike for me new rider
R1-rider
03-21-2004, 12:08 PM
A new 600cc sportbike is, as we have been starting to call them here, stupid fast. Do not let your ego or your dick do your thinking for you here, it can easily get you killed. Start out on a older bike 600cc or less.
And you should still be able to ride most 600s without a problem.
And you should still be able to ride most 600s without a problem.
EGcivicSi
03-21-2004, 08:45 PM
I know a few people who are shorter than you and yes it is harder but its nothing to stress about. You will get used to it. Theres also a few things you can do to make it a little less of a pain so dont even worry about it.
VTISC007
04-10-2004, 01:59 PM
I had an old 1988 Ninja 600. They are fun to ride and easy to manage. The throttle is very forgiving. Even my girlfriend rode it, this was back when we were 18 years old. I've seen them in the paper for around $1100-$1300. Buy a decent one, ride it, learn it, sell it. Since the bike is already depreciated, when you sell it, you pretty much get what you paid for it (1986-89 are the same). It's like renting one or borrowing one. Then when you're ready, step up.
I ride an R1, but I started off on a lawn mower powered mini-bike, then in high school I bought a Honda Elite 250, then in college a Kawasaki Ninja 600, then a Ninja ZX-7, then a Honda CBR 900RR, then what I currently have, Yamaha RRRRRRRRRRR1.
I went to motorcycle school when I was 16 just to get my motorcycle liscence. Along with a little road rash and a broken leg it's all history from then.
I guess what I'm trying to say is go easy and take your time to learn, 600cc motorcycle have more than enough power to kill you, so what ever you choose be careful and don't let to much testosterone interfere with your good judgement.
I ride an R1, but I started off on a lawn mower powered mini-bike, then in high school I bought a Honda Elite 250, then in college a Kawasaki Ninja 600, then a Ninja ZX-7, then a Honda CBR 900RR, then what I currently have, Yamaha RRRRRRRRRRR1.
I went to motorcycle school when I was 16 just to get my motorcycle liscence. Along with a little road rash and a broken leg it's all history from then.
I guess what I'm trying to say is go easy and take your time to learn, 600cc motorcycle have more than enough power to kill you, so what ever you choose be careful and don't let to much testosterone interfere with your good judgement.
EGcivicSi
04-11-2004, 12:07 AM
I would advise against an r1 as a first bike because you might wind up like calgary redneck.
EGcivicSi
04-12-2004, 01:29 AM
Controllable powerband? Gimme a break redneck. Have you ridden an R1, I would assume not. Because for a begginer an R1 can be fatal. The powerband and throttle control is hard to get used to even for people who have been around bikes. So please before you even post a comment or a suggestion, know what your talking about. Because your comment was the complete opposite of what the bike is actually like.
Also what the hell does being a civic driver have to do with anything? Dont worry about what other people drive just worry about posting garbage that makes no sense.
Also what the hell does being a civic driver have to do with anything? Dont worry about what other people drive just worry about posting garbage that makes no sense.
speediva
04-12-2004, 10:51 AM
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Three_Fingers
04-12-2004, 09:18 PM
Hmm... Can I rephrase that 'beginner' statement a bit?
A bike-like any other I/C engine equipped vehicle only goes as fast as you tell it to.
If you ride like an idiot and are prone to snapping the throttle on some bikes-you may find yourself sitting in the road with two broken legs while your bike goes tearing out from under you.
If you ride like what you truly are on any motorcycle-essentially an Aztec sacrifice-or an un-secured accessory that breaks easily-it doesn't matter if you're on a Ninja, a Harley Electra-Glide, or a Rupp mini-bike.
I ride a transverse-V8-powered homebuilt hardtail bike that has a better power-to-weight ratio than my '69 Nova 350/350 combo.
If I do it wrong-I'll inadvertantly turn it around in it's own parking space and it'll end up dumping it's full 1100lbs on top of me.
If I operate it correctly-it's as tame as a pack mule.
General rules I've found work..
If you can't pick it up from a 'lying on it's side' position by yourself, it's prolly too big/heavy for you to control at low speeds (where believe it or not, most crashes happen). Same idea if you can't haul it up onto it's centerstand by yourself.
If you are a new rider-make sure the bike has a 'balance' you are comfortable with-both feet should be flat or nearly so on the ground when you're stopped. If not-you'll most likely dump it eventually because the weight will get away from you.
If you want to ride leaning forward-as most sportbikes are set up-think about HOW you'll be riding it. All day in the leaning rest can play hell with your back/legs.
That and if you hit something-your face and your nuts are gonna get it first-at least on a tourer or on a cruiser-you got a chance at jumping straight up off the pegs in the event of a sure-fatal collision in the hope of clearing the (car-usually) that you're gonna hit.
I'd rather flip over the bars and land on the roof/hod/trunk/road on the other side of that car than kiss the bumper face-first, dig?
Doesn't matter what bike you got-if you can hold it up at a standstill comfortably-it's OK for you.
Just because the throttle opens up to "stupid fast" doesn't mean you HAFTA crank it to there.
ALL bikes IDLE at ABOUT the same speeds.
You can do 25 MPH on a Ninja just like on a moped.
Ride safe/ride defensively-Heed to the law and more importantly-listen to your common sense and you'll have very few problems.
A bike-like any other I/C engine equipped vehicle only goes as fast as you tell it to.
If you ride like an idiot and are prone to snapping the throttle on some bikes-you may find yourself sitting in the road with two broken legs while your bike goes tearing out from under you.
If you ride like what you truly are on any motorcycle-essentially an Aztec sacrifice-or an un-secured accessory that breaks easily-it doesn't matter if you're on a Ninja, a Harley Electra-Glide, or a Rupp mini-bike.
I ride a transverse-V8-powered homebuilt hardtail bike that has a better power-to-weight ratio than my '69 Nova 350/350 combo.
If I do it wrong-I'll inadvertantly turn it around in it's own parking space and it'll end up dumping it's full 1100lbs on top of me.
If I operate it correctly-it's as tame as a pack mule.
General rules I've found work..
If you can't pick it up from a 'lying on it's side' position by yourself, it's prolly too big/heavy for you to control at low speeds (where believe it or not, most crashes happen). Same idea if you can't haul it up onto it's centerstand by yourself.
If you are a new rider-make sure the bike has a 'balance' you are comfortable with-both feet should be flat or nearly so on the ground when you're stopped. If not-you'll most likely dump it eventually because the weight will get away from you.
If you want to ride leaning forward-as most sportbikes are set up-think about HOW you'll be riding it. All day in the leaning rest can play hell with your back/legs.
That and if you hit something-your face and your nuts are gonna get it first-at least on a tourer or on a cruiser-you got a chance at jumping straight up off the pegs in the event of a sure-fatal collision in the hope of clearing the (car-usually) that you're gonna hit.
I'd rather flip over the bars and land on the roof/hod/trunk/road on the other side of that car than kiss the bumper face-first, dig?
Doesn't matter what bike you got-if you can hold it up at a standstill comfortably-it's OK for you.
Just because the throttle opens up to "stupid fast" doesn't mean you HAFTA crank it to there.
ALL bikes IDLE at ABOUT the same speeds.
You can do 25 MPH on a Ninja just like on a moped.
Ride safe/ride defensively-Heed to the law and more importantly-listen to your common sense and you'll have very few problems.
calgary_redneck
04-13-2004, 12:42 AM
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Satirmtamgerine I find it offencive that you have deleated some of my post I believe we have cross paths before. I selflessly have continued to make detailed and accurate advice coming from years of experiance.
Satirmtamgerine I find it offencive that you have deleated some of my post I believe we have cross paths before. I selflessly have continued to make detailed and accurate advice coming from years of experiance.
VTISC007
04-13-2004, 12:54 PM
My R1 is fun to ride, I'm very experienced. One quick twist of the throttle and up she goes. Wheeeeelie!
Cornering hairpin turns I had to get use to. It's either using third gear instead of second or using second at a higher RPM. First and second gear are real torqey at lower speeds and you need to have a smooth right hand to corner smoothley. It's all a matter of getting use to.
Suzuki makes a SV650, and Ducatti has their Monster line up. Very easy bikes to ride, price tags won't break you, and they love to corner.
Beginers are not normally coordinated enough to handle an advanced bike. Riding motorcycles, any motorcycle, requires a very complicated thought process. This process for me is second nature. I could be asleep and ride a bike, it's just like breathing, you don't think about it. It's not only about being able to handle a throttle, that's bareley a fraction of riding. One must be able to utilize all functions of the motorcycle (gears, front brakes, rear brakes, clutch, upshifting and downshifting) without thinking about it, all at the same time scanning the road for oil, sand, dirt, water, idiot drivers, and on and on and on and on.
To put a beginer on an R1 is flat out dumb.
There is no rush to learn.
Anyone can "OPERATE" a motorcycle.
It takes an experienced person with an elavated state of mind to "RIDE" one.
Cornering hairpin turns I had to get use to. It's either using third gear instead of second or using second at a higher RPM. First and second gear are real torqey at lower speeds and you need to have a smooth right hand to corner smoothley. It's all a matter of getting use to.
Suzuki makes a SV650, and Ducatti has their Monster line up. Very easy bikes to ride, price tags won't break you, and they love to corner.
Beginers are not normally coordinated enough to handle an advanced bike. Riding motorcycles, any motorcycle, requires a very complicated thought process. This process for me is second nature. I could be asleep and ride a bike, it's just like breathing, you don't think about it. It's not only about being able to handle a throttle, that's bareley a fraction of riding. One must be able to utilize all functions of the motorcycle (gears, front brakes, rear brakes, clutch, upshifting and downshifting) without thinking about it, all at the same time scanning the road for oil, sand, dirt, water, idiot drivers, and on and on and on and on.
To put a beginer on an R1 is flat out dumb.
There is no rush to learn.
Anyone can "OPERATE" a motorcycle.
It takes an experienced person with an elavated state of mind to "RIDE" one.
EGcivicSi
04-13-2004, 10:59 PM
Redneck, at leeeeezt lurn ho to speal beefor yew poast stewpid comints. :disappoin
R1-rider
04-14-2004, 12:09 PM
First off, Three Fingers: when using the correct technique, even a little 100lb woman can put a goldwing or bosshoss back upright from being leaned over.
And no redneck, saying that a R1 is a fine bike for beginners is not good accurate advice.
Also, a R1 does have a controllable power band yes, however it is NOT forgiving. New riders always fuck up now and then, its a given, I did it on my gs550. And I am damn glad i only had like 25-30hp instead of 140. By the time you realize you did something wrong on a sportbike, it is very possible you are hurting or dead, while on a small old bike, you still have time to pull in the clutch and stop.
And no redneck, saying that a R1 is a fine bike for beginners is not good accurate advice.
Also, a R1 does have a controllable power band yes, however it is NOT forgiving. New riders always fuck up now and then, its a given, I did it on my gs550. And I am damn glad i only had like 25-30hp instead of 140. By the time you realize you did something wrong on a sportbike, it is very possible you are hurting or dead, while on a small old bike, you still have time to pull in the clutch and stop.
aussieidiot
04-15-2004, 04:52 PM
whoever says an R1 is a perfect bike to learn on must not have to deal cops, traffic, old ladies backing out of driveways or just learning to ride at a comfortable speed.
all bikes go slow and can be ridden responsibly. BUT 1 mistake on any high powered light bike can put you down quickly. i learnt to ride on an FZR250R and still managed to beat most cars in drags but when i stuffed up i had time to react. an R1 will get you into the f@#k-up zone a hell of alot quicker than a 600 or 250
back to original question. i have a mate who is your size and is quicker on his R6 than i am on a cbr954 around our fastest race track (eastern creek raceway, sydney) because i'm 6 foot 4 and 95kgs (i think around 210lbs in your speak)
all new bikes or goint to be quicker than the older rivals (eg new r6 or cbrr600 will beat a 1996 gsxr750t)
if you can already ride your halfway there. learn to be a good rider before you try to be a hooligan, you'll have more fun and live longer without injury
all bikes go slow and can be ridden responsibly. BUT 1 mistake on any high powered light bike can put you down quickly. i learnt to ride on an FZR250R and still managed to beat most cars in drags but when i stuffed up i had time to react. an R1 will get you into the f@#k-up zone a hell of alot quicker than a 600 or 250
back to original question. i have a mate who is your size and is quicker on his R6 than i am on a cbr954 around our fastest race track (eastern creek raceway, sydney) because i'm 6 foot 4 and 95kgs (i think around 210lbs in your speak)
all new bikes or goint to be quicker than the older rivals (eg new r6 or cbrr600 will beat a 1996 gsxr750t)
if you can already ride your halfway there. learn to be a good rider before you try to be a hooligan, you'll have more fun and live longer without injury
Tetsuo
04-18-2004, 03:50 AM
Shit man, why can't people just go to motorcycle dealership and try a test fitting as opposed to getting people to answer questions for them? Plus even if you are tall enough for the bike, which I think you may be, that shouldn't be the deciding factor. It's not just speed or engine power, or if the bike is too heavy or if you are tall enough, it's a combination of all of those facets including a couple of other things. New consumers are not aware as rider geometry, which leads to rider comfortability.
I went to my local motorcycle dealership, Rocky Mountain Cycle Plaza here in Colorado Springs. I've sat on many R6s. I am tall enough for the bike, which I am 5'7" but the bike doesn't feel comfortable for my likings. The tank is too wide for me for long distance hauls. The SV650S is more to my likings.
I went to my local motorcycle dealership, Rocky Mountain Cycle Plaza here in Colorado Springs. I've sat on many R6s. I am tall enough for the bike, which I am 5'7" but the bike doesn't feel comfortable for my likings. The tank is too wide for me for long distance hauls. The SV650S is more to my likings.
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