Place your bets! ITS vs. WRX

Who do you think would win between the ITR and a WRX, both exhaust and cold air intake? :evillol:

2 things 1st just edit your post 2nd stop drinking you sisssy. As for the race i dont even care but i know one thing and thats dont eat yellow snow

depends, is it a WRX STI?? if so the ITR is gonna get its ass handed to it, if its a just a plain jane WRX i dunno, depends on the driver.

and from a dig or from a rolling start. if non-sti and from a roll, my $ on itr

WRX from a stop AND a roll... ive slipped by an ITR with exhaust from a 40ish roll and im completely stock... plus the WRX responds VERY well to mods getting rid of three cats in your exhaust does wonders for that car

i races a non STI stock WRX in my GS and i took him (not off the line i suck off the line) i dont know who would win out of an STi or ITR but thats one hell of a race id love to see....

WRX for sure. The intake won't help either car, exhaust will help the ITR a little but the WRX more. Plus the WRX is just plain faster stock.

I've beaten ITR's off the bottle, and mine is N/A.

I've beaten ITR's off the bottle, and mine is N/A.

They either wern't racing, or didnt know how to drive.

Its been pretty well proven that year for year the ITR and WRX are evenly matched on a race track. Any differnces are down to dirver ablity, and conditions at the time.
As to which is the better car depends entirly on your perception.

this sounds pretty close.. but a ITR against a WRX i say the ITR the type R cars are made for the circuits, and the WRX is made for the rally.. o well jus my 2 cents that the ITR would win

are we talkin the new DC5 JDM ITR or the DC2 USDM ITR.

i races a non STI stock WRX in my GS and i took him (not off the line i suck off the line) i dont know who would win out of an STi or ITR but thats one hell of a race id love to see....

another honduh fan. your kidding me right? you honestly think a ITR have a chance in hell to win against a STi? i run a high 13 in the 1/4 mile which is around 1 whole second faster then a ITR or in other words around 10 cars faster then a ITR. i raced my friend with a STi and from a dig he embrassed me. he got me by 4 cars to 60. ( 0-60 in under 5 seconds ) and continued to pull by anther 3 cars till 100mph. the STi hits 0-100 in 12.5 seconds. the ITR needs over 15 seconds to hit 100mph. big difference in speed. and even from a roll from 20mph i lost by 3 cars to 95mph and to prove that my car is faster then any stock ITR i raped a 350z by 5-6 cars in a drag and that Z was a 6 speed with intake. the STi should be compared to LS1 v8's, or high powered turbo charged 4 cylinders, not some high strung n/a 4 cylinder. and no not even a S2000 can hang with a STi becuase my friend has one of htose too. and lost by 5 cars to my other friends evo, and the evo had a shitty ass launch. and the STi is faster then the evo. all the STi need to do is to set the active differential to 65% rear and 35% front like what he did with me and he will take off the line like nothing i've ever seen, the car is proven to run a 0-60 ft time of an amazing 1.6 seconds with that setting. a average FWD does it in around 2.3-2.6. and he can chirp all 4 wheels shifting from 1st to 2nd. the ITR is a nice car, but its a joke compared to any other those cars. to us the ITR is like a turtle.

The STi has a whole lot more power than the ITR, it if it wasnt faster in a straight line then something would be seriously wrong with the laws of nature.
The Jap spec car is even faster again remember, about on par with a Jap spec EVO, year for year.

i thought we were talkin non STI. the ITR DC2 or DC5 would have a better chance. but still wouldnt win. the DC5 would have the best chance.

Year for year the ITR and base WRX. are pretty much even when it comes to straight line and handleing performance, the WRX has a lot more power and AWD, but the Integra weighs a lot less, and has a much more performance orintated suspension set up.

the Integra weighs a lot less, and has a much more performance orintated suspension set up.

Performance oriented suspension? Its front wheel drive which means its an econobox not a performance car.


Here is a link to a site with road test stats from magazines.
The top of the line ITR beats the slowest of the WRX's but won't touch an STI.
http://www.car-stats.com/stats/default.aspx

Performance oriented suspension? Its front wheel drive which means its an econobox not a performance car.


that's some poor logic.
1) since when is suspension the same as drive train?
2)you can't tell me that this FWD cadillac is an econobox
http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/lrg/03122261990003LRG.jpg or my car, or an Acura TL or hundreds of other FWD cars, including the type r integra. maybe RWD/AWD is best for most performance applications but it doesn't mean FWD is for economy purposes.

..........The top of the line ITR beats the slowest of the WRX's but won't touch an STI......

Which Iv already pointed out twice :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And for the record the ITR uses a signifcantly more performance orintated suspension set up than the WRX, its the sole reason its faster, it has more grip, and better handling which make for the WRX's greater hp.

hey the subject says ITS so are u guys talkin about the type S rsx? or the type R integra? well yea the integra type R is made for the track/circuit hence the type RACING and with only 215 or 220hp it can match the wrx for sure

you guys realize that a exhaust system a WRX is going to give it WAAAY more power then an exhaust system on an ITR? for two reasons
1 forced induction cars period respond to that particular mod better then N/A
2 the WRX has 3 cats in its exhaust system as most cars have one... getting rid of those will dramatically increase the HP numbers as opposed to other cars getting the same type of exhaust system

that's some poor logic.
1) since when is suspension the same as drive train?
2)you can't tell me that this FWD cadillac is an econobox
http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/lrg/03122261990003LRG.jpg or my car, or an Acura TL or hundreds of other FWD cars, including the type r integra. maybe RWD/AWD is best for most performance applications but it doesn't mean FWD is for economy purposes.


1. RWD is better for cornering and acceleration, but I'll admit that a good FWD suspension can make up for some of its inadequacies.
Here are some technical reasons why RWD is betterhttp://www.corollaperformance.com/TechInfo/RWD.html

2. That Cad is an econobox. Why spend all that money for an overblown grocery getter. Although I prefer American cars I am much more loyal to RWD. I would rather have a BMW or Mercedes than a Cadillac.

i just can't see a $32,000 car being referred to as an econobox. a dx civic, a mitsubishi marage, a geo anything, those are econoboxes.

I'd rather have a bimmer or mercedes too. Its drive platform doesn't reflect its economic viability to me though.

I dont know why you guys are even arguing about this... Look up the stats on car-stats.com.

WRX~ 14.1
Type R~ 14.8

The WRX is also going to respond a lot better to exhaust than the honda. My $80 homemade exhaust cut about .2-.3 second off my quarter mile time.

My $80 homemade exhaust cut about .2-.3 second off my quarter mile time.
damn, i want somethin' turbo. i'd have to spend hundreds to get any significant gains.

I dont know why you guys are even arguing about this... Look up the stats on car-stats.com.

WRX~ 14.1
Type R~ 14.8

The WRX is also going to respond a lot better to exhaust than the honda. My $80 homemade exhaust cut about .2-.3 second off my quarter mile time.

No kidding. I don't really get where y'all are coming from saying the ITR is a match for the WRX in a straight line. Cuz it's not even close. The distance becomes even greater when you consider how much the exhaust will help the WRX and how much it won't help the ITR.

The ITR is a better road course car than a truly stock WRX, but springs and a sway bar will fix that.

They either wern't racing, or didnt know how to drive.

I'm pretty sure he was racing, considering we were at a drag strip. It's was only a 1000ft strip, and he trapped higher so we probably would have taken me in the 1/4, but again off the bottle I'm much slower than even a stock WRX. He had intake, header and exhaust BTW. He was never able to beat a 12.9 in the 1000ft, my best on intake and exhaust was 12.7, and I've seen a WRX with exhaust only go 11.5. The only other Type R I've ever raced was one that was reportedly Jackson Racing Supercharged, although I can't confirm that. It was in the 1000ft again, and I beat him too (though on nitrous this time)

Iv seen the owner of a car run consistant 15s, 4-5 times in a row. It was new model car, but he had owned it for about 6 months. Someone who had never, ever driven the car, even that model of car before, got in it and on thier first run did a low 13. 2 seconds faster.

Someone might be at the track, and racing hard, and if they don't know how to drive will still be very slow.

I once drove a guy's Celica GTS a whole second quicker than him at the track. I'd never set foot in a GTS before pulling into the staging lanes, so I know what you mean, I'm just relaying my personal experience.