Modfied Jettas any type

I have noticed on this forum that there aren't any threads on modded Jettas. Do people not think Jettas can be fast? There are more than a few 1.8T 10sec Jettas around and high 13-14 second VR6 Jettas. The point being. If anyone with a Jetta needs to ask questions on how to modify their car. Reply on this thread and your questions will be answered. If I can't answer them someone else on here might be able to answer them or I can refer you to somewhere where you might be able to find the answer.
I've only lost 5 races in my life in my 95 VR6 Jetta so they aren't slow by any means.

i have a 97 jetta gt 2.0lt automatic. ive been wanting to add some kick to the car, but aside from intake, exhaust, and a chip, i dont know what else i can do to the 2.0 to make it faster. does anyone have some suggestions to give me some good boost?

VF engineering just got done with their stage 1 and stage 2 supercharger for the VW 2.0 crossflow engine. You can also get the neuspeed super charger wich usually gives you as much whp as a stock VR6.
If you want to go further you can get atp's t3/t4 turbo setup also.
I do believe they also make cams and cam gears for the 2.0 also.
Last but not least you could get nitrous but you might need a new chip b/c of timing.

I just rolled my car and I'm looking for a car that would be a good Daily Driver and weekend racer, I was interested in a 1995 Jetta III with the V6, would this be a good car to mod for the races and for relatively cheap? I'm looking to make it run high 13s to low 14s. Also, I was looking around for good mods on google, and didn't find anything has interesting or as reputable as japanese manufaturers have what are your suggestions for mods and what not. Or should I just stick to looking for a japanese car that would be easier to fix up. Thanks

Its a matter of preference. I personally think that a finely tuned european car has alot more class than some japanese rice rocket. The jetta III with the VR6 with a stage I supercharger will easily dominate. Now... I just need to work on getting the funds to get one.

The VR6 is an expensive motor to mod but you get a lot of fun out of it. One thing. The motor is literally bullet proof. I can take Turbo and Super Chargers on stock internals anywhere between 8-10psi. Go to Techtonics, www.supremepower.com , Denon, Autotech's site, Eurotuner's site, and European car's site for places to buy mods for the VR6. Yes they are expensive but will last atleast 150,000miles if not 200,000.
If you want a VW and want a car that's cheap and easy to modify you can get either the GTI 1.8T or the Jetta 1.8T they are easy and cheap to modify.
You can get a chip and get anywhere between 15hp-30hp from them. Some people say you can get a little more hp from the chips.

You say the VR6 is more expensive to modify than the 1.8T but which one can you get more out of? You originally said that "There are more than a few 10 sec 1.8T out there and 13 - 14 VR6s", does that mean you can get more HP and torque out of the 1.8T than you can the VR6? Or just more dollar for dollar? I've always assumed that bigger displacement meant more performance and more potential. Is this not correct?

I meant dollar per dollar you can get more hp out of the 1.8T. Now if you do have the money to buy a turbo for the VR6 then you get a bit more hp out of the VR6T than the 1.8T.
The 13-14 second VR6's are the one that go the N/A route.
The VR6 itself is a pretty bullet proof engine and can take a lot of hp and tq put through it. My mechanic who's worked on both told me the VR6 is a much tougher motor than the 1.8T.
I hope that helped.

I have a 2.0, but I want to put a VR6 in it. Does anyone know where I can buy a brand NEW VR6 engine?

Jettas rock score the V6 and then turbo and straight pipe it.

Hey guys, I found a pretty good parts supplier, they are not the best but they work: www.andysautosport.com They have a good selection of Body kits, engine mods, Turbos, Superchargers, etc...

HAHAHA you kids are hilarious! as if a 1.8T can do 10 seconds!!
get a grip on reality! I've rebuilt high horsepower muscle cars that have a curb weight less then a jetta and they can't even do 10 seconds.
and were talking over 400 hp at the pavement.
I've got a 2000 vr6 and the thing is gutless, I don't even pretend that it's a racer... because it's not!
Like think about it.. it's all wrong, just go down to the track for a day and see who all the real winners are! they are all rear wheel drive v8 cars. these little front wheel drive cars with spanky little 1.nil liter engines are not meant for fast 1/4 mile times. even all the physics are wrong, there isn't any good weight transfer.
bloody hell a 600 hp v8 with big boots has a hard time hooking up and getting 10 seconds.

Stop watching fast in the furious and go to the track to see the real winners!

regards,

all knowledgeable

you must be pretty damn bad at tuning, what kind of "muscle cars" have you built? By the way, if a Honda civic can run 10s when tuned right, so can a jetta easily, and I must have missed where we said somthing about a jetta running 10s cause when I posted I said 13s-14s. And another thing why are you bashing people, you are a noob

Thanks for bashin this guy. I would except I dont want to get into any flaming, but I will congrajulate you for telling this idiot off. He was really starting to piss me off. Damn 15 year olds :)

I am going to mod my my jetta. It is a wolf 1.8 T. right now my plans are chip, exhaust and intake. I'm not going to do too much cuz i don't want to blow my engine. I think I'll be happy with 230HP. I am also going to be modding the look... I am thinking a caractere kit minus the "wing." Trying to keep it looking not so street racer but more elegant. I have plans also for wheels. I don't know.

Anyway, the moral of this reply was to let you see that there are people who are modding...

Bijo

Black 2003 Jetta 1.8T Wolfsburg Ed.
riding 16" stock BBS

for now

damn kids... if i have to say it again i will!! fast and the furious is NOT real!!
do any of you kids have actual claims to say they rice boxes can do 10 seconds?? have any of ever even seen a track? yet alone been on one?
these cars are not that fast! simply put!
I have see these so called honda's on the track before, and they are so modified it would be imposible to drive them on the street, they have long wheelie bars in the back to offset the fulcrum point and the tires in the front are so wide that they can't turn with them...those are the cars that are doing 10 seconds.. have you children ever even seen a 8 or 9 second car.. they are called funny cars, and they are not even street legal you morons! they run on alcohol and are over 1000hp.
damn! go back to school.
I know that when you get you chip or muffler in the mail, and on the box it says it adds 20 hp..well that it not acurate either, so if you are going by those numbers then keep dreaming.

here is a like to a spot where real people have cars that are using nitro and getting real times.. this guy is using a new 200hp jetta pimped out AND on nitro and he's getting continuous times of high 13's
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1331807

now thats reality kids!!

there is a massive difference between high 13's and 10's (it's called a v8)

get with reality...but don't get me wrong thou either.. it's not like it can't be done, it just won't be street legal..the fastest jetta i've ever heard of was a super modded one with a t4 turbo AND using more nitrous then fuel. and he did high 11's but the car was soo modded it was only made for the track (funny car)

class is adjourned.
come again!

as said before... i'm not expecting to get a ten second time. Adding stuff to my car is a hobby for me. I am not a racer. I am not a ricer. I am not trying to fix my car to get out there and beat your V8. I am simply just having fun by adding things to my car. For some reason you can't see that. I know I can only speak for myself but at least know that SOME of us aren't modding our cars expecting to beat a V8. If you go through this tread you can see that nobody even mentioned the fact that they wanted to.

Your whole "V8s make the world go round" is getting pretty tired.

I'd just like to clear things up. There's actually people on the road that think the fast and the furious is cool. They are complete tools. I think I've met one.

Then there are the people that try to generalize all import drivers as people obsessed with the fast and the furious movies. These people tend to drive "muscle cars" and are usually complete cocks.

kids... if i have to say it again i will!! fast and the furious is NOT real!!
do any of you kids have actual claims to say they rice boxes can do 10 seconds?? have any of ever even seen a track? yet alone been on one?
these cars are not that fast! simply put!
I have see these so called honda's on the track before, and they are so modified it would be imposible to drive them on the street, they have long wheelie bars in the back to offset the fulcrum point and the tires in the front are so wide that they can't turn with them...those are the cars that are doing 10 seconds.. have you children ever even seen a 8 or 9 second car.. they are called funny cars, and they are not even street legal you morons! they run on alcohol and are over 1000hp.
damn! go back to school.
I know that when you get you chip or muffler in the mail, and on the box it says it adds 20 hp..well that it not acurate either, so if you are going by those numbers then keep dreaming.

here is a like to a spot where real people have cars that are using nitro and getting real times.. this guy is using a new 200hp jetta pimped out AND on nitro and he's getting continuous times of high 13's
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1331807

now thats reality kids!!

there is a massive difference between high 13's and 10's (it's called a v8)

get with reality...but don't get me wrong thou either.. it's not like it can't be done, it just won't be street legal..the fastest jetta i've ever heard of was a super modded one with a t4 turbo AND using more nitrous then fuel. and he did high 11's but the car was soo modded it was only made for the track (funny car)

class is adjourned.
come again!

Yeah... So you have a muscle car, whooo big deal.... What's the fun in that? Anybody with money can go to a dealership and buy a fast car right out of the lot. I really don't like 'ricers' myself, but I really don't like rednecks and dicks who drive their class-less V8's and mullets and think they're the shit. Considering this is a Jetta forum, there is a majority of us who believe in the 'sleeper' concept. It takes a different kind of person to spend their hard earned cash and put it into a vehicle that isn't sterotyped. It takes class to do something like that. Anyways, why are we talking about Hondas in here???

Hey smoknbarrels, there a diff between 13 and 10 secs, its called an L4. A stock Lancer Evo can give a stock V8 Camaro a good run for its money, and sure, it wont win, but its not always winning that counts. My point is is that V8's are not necesarily better. So, now that that is over, lets just STICK WITH THE FORUM TOPICS!!!

kids... if i have to say it again i will!! fast and the furious is NOT real!!
do any of you kids have actual claims to say they rice boxes can do 10 seconds?? have any of ever even seen a track? yet alone been on one?
these cars are not that fast! simply put!
I have see these so called honda's on the track before, and they are so modified it would be imposible to drive them on the street, they have long wheelie bars in the back to offset the fulcrum point and the tires in the front are so wide that they can't turn with them...those are the cars that are doing 10 seconds.. have you children ever even seen a 8 or 9 second car.. they are called funny cars, and they are not even street legal you morons! they run on alcohol and are over 1000hp.
damn! go back to school.
I know that when you get you chip or muffler in the mail, and on the box it says it adds 20 hp..well that it not acurate either, so if you are going by those numbers then keep dreaming.

here is a like to a spot where real people have cars that are using nitro and getting real times.. this guy is using a new 200hp jetta pimped out AND on nitro and he's getting continuous times of high 13's
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1331807

now thats reality kids!!

there is a massive difference between high 13's and 10's (it's called a v8)

get with reality...but don't get me wrong thou either.. it's not like it can't be done, it just won't be street legal..the fastest jetta i've ever heard of was a super modded one with a t4 turbo AND using more nitrous then fuel. and he did high 11's but the car was soo modded it was only made for the track (funny car)

class is adjourned.
come again!

First of all, kid,
I think you are lieing in more than one area. If you are so great and old that you think you can condensend everyone in here by calling everyone "kid" how old are you, DON'T LIE sencond, you said the only way to run 10s is with a v8 but you also said you have seen hondas run 8s and 9s and those are for sure not v8s. You never did answer my question as to what muscle cars you have worked on (which I would like to here) oh yeah, and you said you never got a muscle car to run tens and then you said that that is the only way. oh and another thing vws aren't "rice rockets", they are german so why don't you replie to me with some legit posts and knowledge. Besides, the point of this thread is to help people learn about modding jettas and not bashing but since you brought I figured I would throw it all back in your face newbie. :nono:

Smoknbarrels, I'm sure you could talk in circles all day long, but not everybody enjoys driving in a straight line with a big obnoxious obsolete v8. All that shits history. Were exploring new ground.
Your a chump

I just joined the forum and I can't believe how much time certain little boys spend in here trying to overcompensate for their less than average selves with their less than real v8 engines. As another reader so eloquently stated above, no one in here has mentioned trying to smoke a v8 and could care less about the subject. There is one point I feel compelled to make that has not been mentioned here. Anyone can modify their car with any number of bells and whistles and toys to make it run louder, stronger and/or better than stock performance but it doesn't mean sheeat if the person behind the wheel isn't a skilled performance driver. I'm talking about the art of automotive handling, not just slinging a vehicle down a straight away. There is so much more to a vehicles performance than a ten second race to the finish line. I love my Jetta's OVERALL performance. She is solid, yet stylish, and quick with a firm grip on the road. My life is spent on REAL roads in the REAL world, not some 24/7 raceway and I love my cars ability to conquer it day in and day out.....so put THAT in your barrel and smoke it.

nevermind smokenpeters, i mean barrels. Jettas can be quick if you know what to do. :smokin:

Dr. Gonzo, thanks for the initial post. I too have a VR6, 2000, automatic unfortunately. I'd like to tweek the car a bit once it's no longer a true daily driver. My instincts lead me more toward a handling car. One that will do well in the corners as well in the flats. 10-13sec times are not all that important.

You mentioned a VR6 turbo or supercharger earlier. Is this really a good idea for an auto? Aside from the obvious suspension mods, a chip and maybe some esthetic changes, what else would you recommend?

1.8t wolfsburg represent. I love mine. Its not the fastest thing on the road (yet) but its got class and a lot of style, and the BBS look sharp.

Hey there Timmy the fastest VW in the world runs 9.69 seconds it's a Turbo 95 VR6 Jetta. Ok get your facts straight Brian of GTR motors did it. On stick internals the 1.8T can take 350whp and easily runs 12's and 11's. With more work done on it I am sure a 1.8T can run 9's. Just remember those V8's are heavy so the power to weight ratio might make a bit of difference. Once as much time has been spent on the 1.8T as the VR6 (turbo/NA) I believe we will see 9's or dare I say 8's in the 1/4. Later Clown.

damn kids... if i have to say it again i will!! fast and the furious is NOT real!!
do any of you kids have actual claims to say they rice boxes can do 10 seconds?? have any of ever even seen a track? yet alone been on one?
these cars are not that fast! simply put!
I have see these so called honda's on the track before, and they are so modified it would be imposible to drive them on the street, they have long wheelie bars in the back to offset the fulcrum point and the tires in the front are so wide that they can't turn with them...those are the cars that are doing 10 seconds.. have you children ever even seen a 8 or 9 second car.. they are called funny cars, and they are not even street legal you morons! they run on alcohol and are over 1000hp.
damn! go back to school.
I know that when you get you chip or muffler in the mail, and on the box it says it adds 20 hp..well that it not acurate either, so if you are going by those numbers then keep dreaming.

here is a like to a spot where real people have cars that are using nitro and getting real times.. this guy is using a new 200hp jetta pimped out AND on nitro and he's getting continuous times of high 13's
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1331807

now thats reality kids!!

there is a massive difference between high 13's and 10's (it's called a v8)

get with reality...but don't get me wrong thou either.. it's not like it can't be done, it just won't be street legal..the fastest jetta i've ever heard of was a super modded one with a t4 turbo AND using more nitrous then fuel. and he did high 11's but the car was soo modded it was only made for the track (funny car)

class is adjourned.
come again!

Dr. Gonzo, thanks for the initial post. I too have a VR6, 2000, automatic unfortunately. I'd like to tweek the car a bit once it's no longer a true daily driver. My instincts lead me more toward a handling car. One that will do well in the corners as well in the flats. 10-13sec times are not all that important.

You mentioned a VR6 turbo or supercharger earlier. Is this really a good idea for an auto? Aside from the obvious suspension mods, a chip and maybe some esthetic changes, what else would you recommend?

Hey sorry it's been a while since I have been on this forum a lot of stuff has been going on. vr62 I don't honestly know about a turbo/super charger for auto's I do believe you could do it I know there are people with supra's, WRX's, and DSM's have autos with turbos(though they are from the factory auto turbos) I don't think it would be a bad thing to put a turbo/super charger on your auto VR6. Go for it. For asetic changes you can do carbon fiber hood, fenders, different rear view mirros, I think they even if you want to go all out Carbon fiber side panels and rear side panels. Don't quote me on the side panels and rear fenders however. Good Luck man.

i've never seen a 10s 1.8T jetta. i was under the assumption the fastest jetta is the GTR motorsports jetta from jersey which is a VR6 turbo, runs high 9's....
http://www.gtrmotorsports.net/

edit: didnt read you already posted GTR's car, but the website link is up, check it out.

I know of one 1.8T Jetta here in Omaha NE that ran mid to high 10's but living in Omaha you don't really get noticed if you do something cool like that. For example the 240SX here running the RB26DETT that thing is bad ass and runs well.

I however am making an educated guess that when as much time/money has been spent on research the complete possibilites of the 1.8T highly modified 1.8T's running 10's or even 9's however that's an educated guess.

Hey guys...I'm curious, I haven't heard too much of you having mods already done on your cars. I've thrown a few on mine and she's running strong. I'm not much into the body mods...since I dig the sleep look. Besides...in most places I travel and live, the tint i have is illegal and don't need the popo's throwin a red flag on my car. :p In any case, I considerin doin a further mod, either upgradin to the K04 turbo or lookin into gettin the GT28RS. Any of you made either one of those steps? I'd be curious to hear how its running and if you've had any problems. :biggrin:

i just got my 1995 volkswagen jetta III GL last year and it's completely stock...i can figure out how to mod the interior and exterior....but the engine is the tricky part....my car has 135,000 when i bought it...and some ppl tell me to rebuild the engine but i don't know how to go about doing that...someone please help me haha

you could buy a parts manuel and do it your self, it would be a lot of work but you would learn alot and save some $ but otherwise, inquire at a shop where you could swap your engine for an already rebuilt engine and pay the balance, or you could look into engine swaps (which I dont know much about on jettas) but you could fit a better engine in there. But definatly don't mod a 135k engine unless you plan on small things like intake and exhaust

here are some pics, slightly modified MORE TO COME!, lowering, rims, and full tint this month 1990 a2 jetta wolfsburg edition (http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/638099)

Jetta racer you have couple of options.
1. Engine swap 1.8T or a VR6 (12valve or 24valve)

2. Rebuild your 4cylinder 8valve engine and slap a neuspeed super charger get cams and adjustable timing cams from Autotech or Schrick.
You can get a chip for it intake and exhaust also. I don't konw if they make headers for the 8valve.

I recommend a engine swap.
1.8T easy to make fast b/c it's a lot cheaper to buy a chip for it.
VR6 more expsensive to make fast but if you can get a turbo for it the sky's the limit.

I'm slowly modding a 91 jetta. Right now just with a #272 grind cam and adj. cam gear. head ported and polished with 3 angle valve job. Also intake exhaust, short shift kit, rims...... I want to add turbo..... any one do this before with this year, and know a good source for quality parts or kits??

i'm running a 97 jetta trek, it's 2.0 and i've heard a lot of kids start with a chip, exhaust, and intake. is this a good place to start? or are there other options worth checking out?

Honestly not too sure on the 8v 2.0. My suggestions would be yes a chip is a great way to start out you get a noticeable gain throughout the powerband. The intake is good I suggest a Cold Air Intake rather than an open air one b/c of too much heat in the engine bay for an open air intake.

Other options include exhaust, Cams, adjustable cam gears, and if you want to try the neuspeed super charger they sell. I don't know if they make lightened fly wheels, pullies, clutch etc.
Look on the following web sites Autotech, Techtonics, Neuspeed, and Unorthodoxy Racing.
To get schrick items call just buy or copy the number from a European Car magazine.
GIAC,Autotech, and Neuspeed make chips for the 8v.

if u want a quick car that'll corner stick with the 2.0. a 2.0 with stock internals will handle high psi from a turbo. for 2.0s get a used obd1 aba block(forged internals) and get a 16v head from an mkii (1.8l and 2.0l 16v's both work but u will need some 2.0 16v internals or modded 1.8l) im building an aba 16v engine right now. haven't decided on turbo or not yet because turbos for vws are big money if u go new and u have to work out fuel management issues. just make sure u stick with quality companies for parts like eip tuning and techtonics for parts. after some lumpy cams(have to watch out for timing if using stock pistons), big valves, p&p, intake, exhaust and a proper chip, the mkii or mkiii management systems can handle over 200whp in a light package. now thats just a few parts, theres all kinds of parts needed from old vws and audis to get a reliable package. now if you want to turbo with lots of hp, stick with the 8v head because it is bomb proof . 24 psi is possible on the stock internals of an early aba engine(vr6 or 2.0) it just takes some careful planning and quality labor. picking the right parts can get u 450whp from a 2.0 but thats money and looooots of work. well theres my 2 cents

ha, crazy shit. fast max you deffinitly sound like you know what you're doing, and i appreciate your help dr. gonzo

I would say just swap out the 8valve for a 16valve 2.0 or 1.8 dub engine. Maxcooper knows a lot more about these types of engines than I do. But the main reason why I started this thread was for VW owners to know about how much power they can make and how they can mod their cars to make that power.
Expert I am not but knowledgeable and able to point people who are more so than I am yes.

By the way if anyone wants to add their 2cents go for it. The more people who know what they are talking about the better for everyone.
Later.

oh i didn't leave ne websites for reference. heres two sites on building economy 2.0l's:
http://forums.vwsport.com/viewtopic.php?t=33 and http://forum.vwsport.com/viewtopic.php?t=445 . those will help u build cheap 2.0l that are nice and quick. if u have some money look around www.eiptuning.com and u'll see what can be done to get some real good numbers from any volkswagen engine. (this is the site with the 450hp mkiii jetta http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/projectsjetta32116vturbo.html and the mkiii golf that ran a 10.23 second quarter mile http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/a3stage5vr6turboprojectsponsorship.html)

Cooper thanks for your contributions for giving the websites.
www.supremepower.com is also a good place to go.
www.neuspeed.com
www.autotech.com
I think there are more. Anyone else want to chime in. Oh by the way if you are a VR6 owner of any kind not just Jetta the info on here will be useful.
www.techtonicstuning.
If possible I'd like to see a person on here who's a bit more knowledgeable on 1.8T's b/c I know stuff but not to the extent that an owner of one does. Just to cover all the bases from the VR6,1.8T,2.08v,new 2.0T(not out yet),2.0/1.8 16v, or the TDI. Cool if anyone who sees this thread and wants to put their ideas on go for it.

I have a 03 VW jetta 2.0L manual transmission. I am so confused with what is going on. I have 18x8 inch rims and when i went to get them aligned they told me my camber on the front right side was positive and it needed to be negative 1 degree. They said it could not be fixed without a $200 kit. My car is still under warranty and i was hoping that this might be covered by the warranty but the people who did my alignment told me it was a common problem on jettas with rims but Volkswagen didnt recognize it as a problem and would not help me. Can anybody tell me anything about this.

I also would like advice on any ways to get more power out of my little engine. I have no engine mods but would like to do something like exhaust and intake. I have heard that unless i get the correct mods i might not gain any power or might actually lose power. Please help.

The only way you might lose power is from open air intake filters b/c they get so hot they actually lose power up top. Other than that decent mods would be Cold Air Intake, Exhaust, and a chip for starters.
GIAC,Techtonics,Upsolute,Autotech Qchip, and Wetterauer are some you could chose from there might be more.
Exhuast is pretty simple though I've heard good things about GHL.
The Intake I like the best would be the Turn2 Cold air intake.
Another simple mod would be Turn2 motor and tranni mounts.

Hey Guys,

I'm new to this group so a big hello to you all.
I'm considering doing the following to my new Bora 4Motion VR6 (04)
Basically I plan to do two sets of mods

Set 1
Lumpy Cam + New Springs
Chip
Extractors/exhaust
Lower the car + New Springs

Set 2
VF Engineering Supercharge

I'm thinking of implementing "hidden" set 1 now
Then set 2 when my factory warrantee runs out.

Is this a good plan?
Can I get better bang for buck doing something else?
Should I wait till end of factory warrantee before doing either?
Is the VR6 bullet proof enough that I should just do both now and not worry about the warrantee?

Well i guess i missed out on some of this fun

Funny car??? BS there is a full weight full body eclipse that runs low 9's all day a few that have hit 8's factory glass and body panels

MY jetta runs very damn well! ko4 turbo really helps out

My Eclipse runs 11.36 no spray street legal.. Passes inspection here in texas
PUMP GAS

wow there is many street legal imports doing tens. infact my friend had a 11sec street legal civic. it wasnt on slick's or full boost ether. and vw's can be fast so stop bashing on them. there has ben many 9 sec mk3 vr6's. they can make well over 500whp. and 1.8t can be too, there is a guy doing 12s on stock turbo and no nitrous. and i have seen dyno's with 1.8t's will over 500whp. if u dont have alot of money to modd or dont want to do any major mods get a 1.8t, with a chip, downpipe,catback exhaust.intake theese cars will do low 14's high 13's if u r a good driver. the only way to really get alot of power out of a vr6 is to go forced introduction.
dont want to go crazy modding=1.8t
have alot of money to mod=vr6
and dude atleast learn about your own car before u bash on it