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TRD 11k rpm motor


zerogt86
03-16-2004, 03:25 PM
i know that it is a real motor, but can anyone actually buy one?

Initial_D
03-16-2004, 04:26 PM
I found many of them few months ago in good condition ,but :sly: it's really expensive ... :banghead: 14000$ for 1600cc N/A engine. :uhoh: you can't buy it unless if you are rich ??

youngdrifter_x
03-16-2004, 05:21 PM
That much?!? Might as well buy a cool car!!

zerogt86
03-16-2004, 08:38 PM
damn! thats expensive as hell, but do ya hav a link... i wanna c a real pic and real specs of that engine (as opposed to the cg in initial d).

Initial_D
03-17-2004, 01:45 AM
:biggrin: for the spec ,all I know that it's making 240hp@11000 rpm >_<

see these 86s with this crazy engine
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/422000-422999/422559_15_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/422000-422999/422559_14_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/422000-422999/422559_5_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/422000-422999/422559_6_full.jpg
:loser:

peter i
03-21-2004, 09:01 PM
even you got $ You can't get that engine ,unless you know somebody from the racing department...........
otherwise You need to re-build the engine yours self , you need to build it from scrap :nono: (TRD 0.8mm gasket , Direct intake, 400cc feul injector"from the NA supra", 12000RPM crankshalf balancing,TRD racing piston,lighter flywheel,Feul managment system & special tools to do test etc)

4ag 11000rpm dream (http://auto.joins.com/upboard/pds/p...2_AE86-S-01.wmv) a jap Pro-racer soup up his levin....93meg

FFDriftweapon
03-22-2004, 04:36 PM
You could order that motor from TRD at the time, the only reason it's hard to get is that they don't make it as a prebuilt motor anymore. You can still get the bits. People like Tomei make similar motors anyway, without manifolds though.

Finally, just remember, you can ring direct to TRD japan and talk in english to their operators. Most of their good shit is special order though.

peter i
03-23-2004, 04:12 AM
it wouldn't be so easy , because that engine is for F1600 (F3/4)and Formula nippon. Formula Asia etc

TRD will only offer the upgrade kits ,part but not the engine . Only TODA is still product them (full engine)
http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/product/onemake/4ag/4ag-inje.jpg \245,000 yen
http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/product/parts/cam/4ag4v-4.jpg IN \16,000yen / EX \13,000yen   
http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/product/parts/cam/4ag5v-1.jpg IN \46,000yen / EX \42,000yen

total and see how much is it ... not including works and balancing

Achim
06-04-2004, 01:35 PM
In my opinion there is no sense in investing $14,000 or more for a 240hp engine. You can easily get something even more powerful for less money (if you're willing to accept a used one). It might be a little more difficult to swap an engine into it which isn't made for an AE86 (but not much more difficult than swapping another engine into any car where it doesn't belong to). I'm not sure if there is enough space for 2JZ engine, but it would look at least a little bit similar (and has more power at less RPM, still revs up to 8000 easily). Has somebody ever tried? However, if you're not a real freak and have to have the original, there are cheaper ways to have a powerful AE86...

joebowlr21
06-04-2004, 04:36 PM
In my opinion........you shouldn't bring back threads that are more then 3 months old....................

ColeIketani
06-04-2004, 09:38 PM
oh whatever, it doesn't matter. I mean it's better than someone bringing up the topic AGAIN in three months on another thread that we have to keep linking back too.

I used to complain about that stuff too, but then now that I think about it, it really doesn't matter

ColeIketani
06-04-2004, 09:38 PM
and he DOES bring up a good point

-The Stig-
06-04-2004, 10:15 PM
Best Motoring International Vol. 4 'Roaring Vtec'

Had a Hachi powered by the Honda S2000 motor... I thought that was pretty spiff. Even had the digital tachometer.

Tsuchiya thought it was pretty badass, and it flatout hauled on the 'touge' course.


Anywho... I'll leave this thread open for discussion... I see no harm in it as of yet. But another mod may chose to close it at their discretion.

Fully_Sick
06-04-2004, 11:01 PM
Pity the race spec 4age's are so expensive.

Here in Oz, you can buy a 20v 4age silvertop for a good 300-500US. Decently powered engine, and I heard that you can buy some special parts off that motor[11k rpm one] that bolt-on the 20v, giving it a considerable increase in revving capacity, etc.

p.s: on a side note if you have a plain 4age a good thing to do is grab the tvis system from the earler corolla's/celica's and bolt it on in place of the existing system.

c32b1 NSX
06-05-2004, 01:31 AM
14k is a waste of money for 240hp. get a 152e motor from japan. toyota made it for corolas both 70s, ae86, ae111, ae101. nice and powerful 4 cyl engine. 250hp and for the low price of 8k. little problem.... actually, big problem.... extremely hard to find parts for it.

joebowlr21
06-05-2004, 03:37 AM
Best Motoring International Vol. 4 'Roaring Vtec'

Had a Hachi powered by the Honda S2000 motor... I thought that was pretty spiff. Even had the digital tachometer.

Tsuchiya thought it was pretty badass, and it flatout hauled on the 'touge' course.



EHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Wrong redneck.Don't make up stories that never happened.Just reviewed Roaring V-tec an they never ran the f20 powered Hachi coupe on the Touge.They ran it on Ebisu i believe.And Hattori was scared shyt less by the loud humming sound comming from the unbalanced drift shaft.Sorry, but the forums have to know the truth.LOL.

Also, i believe the guy stated that the conversion would cost around(this is a rough conversion) $32,000 dollars.And that was including the price of the vehicle or the wheels it was sporting.

Did you noticed much positive camber there was on the rear tires, they set it up so it would have beeter traction that way.That car ruled!

ColeIketani
06-05-2004, 08:13 AM
So are thier just Hachi Roku's littering Japan?

I've always been curious

-The Stig-
06-05-2004, 12:08 PM
EHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Wrong redneck.Don't make up stories that never happened.Just reviewed Roaring V-tec an they never ran the f20 powered Hachi coupe on the Touge.They ran it on Ebisu i believe.And Hattori was scared shyt less by the loud humming sound comming from the unbalanced drift shaft.Sorry, but the forums have to know the truth.LOL.

Also, i believe the guy stated that the conversion would cost around(this is a rough conversion) $32,000 dollars.And that was including the price of the vehicle or the wheels it was sporting.

Did you noticed much positive camber there was on the rear tires, they set it up so it would have beeter traction that way.That car ruled!


Well, Geee i'm sorry I got the track and driver name wrong. It has been probably a year since I've seen the movie. :rolleyes:

Now I'm going to go buy it so I can watch it again, And if you're wrong...... We'll be talking again. :biggrin:

joebowlr21
06-05-2004, 06:08 PM
The drift king did drive the f20 powered Hachi, just that you stated on touge, when in reality it was on a circuit.Just lettin ya know.Hey if you are gonna buy it, why not buy it from me.I have about 9 best motoring dvds all play on us dvd players i'm looking to get rid of.No scratches and all in original boxes.They have been veiw about 10 times each, i love best motoring.Just selling them cuz i need a lil extra cash.

ColeIketani
06-07-2004, 09:02 AM
well can anyone answer my question?

Layla's Keeper
06-07-2004, 05:01 PM
I don't know exact production figures, but that generation of Trueno/Levin coupe was very popular in Japan and did sell well from what I understand.

Now, as far as the TRD engine is concerned, it's pretty east to get them stateside, just very expensive. The engines are used in the Toyota Atlantic series and I've also seen them find their way into SCCA club cars.

For $100,000, you could own a 1998 Formula Atlantic car with a Hasselgren built TRD 1600cc engine. Take a look here.

http://www.racer-net.com/cart010.htm
http://www.racer-net.com/cart01b.gif

tetsuyagarage
06-07-2004, 06:33 PM
has anyone seen the video where they build up the TRD ae motor? i saw it, and after they built it manabu orido took it on the track man that thing sounded sweet w/ the itb's


njoy
trd motor (http://auto.joins.com/upboard/pds/pdst/20031228304042_AE86-S-01.wmv )

joebowlr21
06-07-2004, 06:48 PM
So are thier just Hachi Roku's littering Japan?

I've always been curious
I can pretty much garuantee that most of them are spoken for in Japan.Seeing how valueble they are to japanese veteran drifts along with the oyunger crowd.It's not like the U.S were u can find one sitting in someones driveway just rotting to hell until someone lucky fins it and restores it.

I'll tell you this though, people complain about the price of Hachi's over here saying that 3-5g's for a decent condition oneis way too much and a rip off.Well, if they are complaining about this price, try looking in a japanese auto mag that has classifieds.Those damn 83 hachi's go for around 1mill yen, which is roughly around 10 grand :eek:

ColeIketani
06-07-2004, 08:30 PM
Those damn 83 hachi's go for around 1mill yen, which is roughly around 10 grand :eek:

10,000??!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT THE HELL???!!! LOL

MKIISupra
06-13-2004, 09:19 PM
I am with C32 B1 I believe that to be a great N/A engine. Now was that a TOSCO product? It was wasnt it. They were placed in celicas. These celicas were banned from their class because they were too fast so in turn dangerous.

Twyzz
06-14-2004, 10:38 AM
hmm i wonder if you could drop this engine in 1st gen MR-2... mini ferrari....

MKIISupra
06-14-2004, 11:59 AM
The 152E? Well, you would have to go with a stronger trans and a custom bellhousing. But the engine is just 2 litres so yeah. I have heard of 3SGTE powered MK1 MR2s so i imagine this would fit fine.

AErrorist
06-14-2004, 02:16 PM
83 = Hachi San

ColeIketani
06-14-2004, 06:55 PM
83 = Hachi San


Um...that's nice... :screwy:

IaMtHeDRIFTKing
07-23-2004, 10:04 PM
i think that 11,000rpm motor is just a heavly tuned 4A-GE. Probably about 10k worth, but who knows i can be wrong

VQuick
07-24-2004, 08:35 AM
A heavily tuned 4AGE 20v.

AkinaSpecialist
08-02-2004, 06:14 PM
Make it sounds so plain. The RPM's on that engine are godly. 240hp is pretty damn good for a car that comes stock with 120hp. High RPM's are really focused for Rally and Drifting cars. You'd only want that engine for those purposes.

want a supra
08-04-2004, 10:28 PM
14k for a ae86 motor?

ST-001
08-04-2004, 11:58 PM
WHAT ?? WHEN ?? i thought the trueno was only a 12k engine !!!

AkinaSpecialist
08-05-2004, 08:40 AM
Hes talking about 14k as the price not the RPM's. Sorry to burst your bubble ST-001. Another 3k of rpms..what wonders that would bring.

rex21
08-06-2004, 11:41 PM
something cool about takumis engine... the AE101 engine comes from a toyota sprinter trueno from 93-96, the car is a front wheel drive car and comes with the 4 individual throttle bodies stock. The one in takumis car is from the group A class of the super taikyu race back when they had group a b and C. Now they just have 500hp and 300hp class. fastest was group B which had skylines and FD's and whatnot. Group A was mostly high revving NA cars and was the next fastest, followed by group C which was small displacement cars. The engine had 2 models one which was used for the super taikyu series which revved to 11,000 rpm and had 240ps and (i think) 227lb ft of tourque. And then one which was used in the corolla Levin ae101 model which revved to 9750rpm and had 225ps, this engine was used in a simmilar racing series but not any 24hr races. Initial d makes this engine look so hard to get if u dont have racing connections but in real life its actually quite easy if you have the money. TRD sells both models as a crate engine, the 11,000 rpm model is availible for about $16,000. Not only is that a crazy price but think about how many engines racing teams go through, some use one engine per race. Also i should note that JUN makes a crate engine similar to the TRD one, its actually 260ps and revs to 10,250 rpm and costs a little over $14k. well as you can all see, i have way too much time on my hands... hope this was interesting to read at least.

AkinaSpecialist
08-07-2004, 02:13 AM
It was interesting to read. And I admire your knowledge. Bad news, everything you just said was brought up at earlier times in this disscussion. New words old news. Sadly.

ColeIketani
08-08-2004, 10:09 AM
Heh, why does this thread keep being revived?

AkinaSpecialist
08-09-2004, 05:24 AM
Things can be brought back. Dude you've been a member since november 2003 of course u think its old homie were new we see a forum we love the topic we add to it. I seriously said something here because i like the topic i had no clue there was a date to post something.

And its okay if its old. Were not wasting the space that was created. The people couldve deleted it once they havent seena send in foreva. But did they? No! Because of us. Kid get off these haha

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