A Rotary Mustang?
FR_Madness
03-16-2004, 03:41 AM
What do you think? I was thinking of jacking out my 5.0 in my Cobra and dropping a 20B rotary in its place.
It would be a show stopper at least. Obviously a lot of work but I think worth it.
Just think, a street mustang that revs to 8k+!? SWEET!
I have found the neccessary engine and I have a place to do it but I am not entirely sure what I will need to do as far as the engine compartment is concerned.
I could really use some tips here! Thanks guys!
It would be a show stopper at least. Obviously a lot of work but I think worth it.
Just think, a street mustang that revs to 8k+!? SWEET!
I have found the neccessary engine and I have a place to do it but I am not entirely sure what I will need to do as far as the engine compartment is concerned.
I could really use some tips here! Thanks guys!
b3warnick
03-16-2004, 08:08 AM
This is a joke.....right?
HiFlow5 0
03-16-2004, 10:13 AM
LOL
You can make that 5.0 block rev to 8k too if built correctly. Also not to mention the hidious sound a rotory makes with exhaust, coming from a Mustang. Ewwwww!
You can make that 5.0 block rev to 8k too if built correctly. Also not to mention the hidious sound a rotory makes with exhaust, coming from a Mustang. Ewwwww!
thunderbird muscle
03-16-2004, 11:01 AM
Please don't embarASS the mustang name like that. The 5.0 is an excellent motor to build I have seen them rev to 9,000 rpms.
Even though a motor can rev high doesn't mean it has a lot of power Heck if you do that to your stang I would challenge you any day with my 95 Thunderbird lx with a 4.6.
A rotary motor isn't going to cut it in a stang sorry. You can try but the exhaust will suck, the torque will probably suck, and it is going to take a lot of money.
I think you are crazzy myself. Why don't you just by ricer instead of making rice out of muscle.
Even though a motor can rev high doesn't mean it has a lot of power Heck if you do that to your stang I would challenge you any day with my 95 Thunderbird lx with a 4.6.
A rotary motor isn't going to cut it in a stang sorry. You can try but the exhaust will suck, the torque will probably suck, and it is going to take a lot of money.
I think you are crazzy myself. Why don't you just by ricer instead of making rice out of muscle.
FR_Madness
03-16-2004, 04:10 PM
Hey I've seen rotories in excess of 700 HP with a sweet TT set up. Besides everyone uses the big engines in Mustangs I want to be original.
Ricers are crap I dont want that. And if a V8 can be built up to 9k revs then a Rotory would surely be able to rev like a friggin' F1 racer (obvious exageration).
I don't know. I think it would be able to ownagainst a lot of big block racers out there. Besides the Rotory is a good bit lighter than a V8. A hell of a lot lighter. What about that? Rotories can be built to the same ridiculus HP as a V8 and they are lighter to boot! Aren't those the two essentials of racing? Gain power and Lose weight.
I am just wondering because I was recently intoduced to Rotories and I don't see any flaws in them.
Ricers are crap I dont want that. And if a V8 can be built up to 9k revs then a Rotory would surely be able to rev like a friggin' F1 racer (obvious exageration).
I don't know. I think it would be able to ownagainst a lot of big block racers out there. Besides the Rotory is a good bit lighter than a V8. A hell of a lot lighter. What about that? Rotories can be built to the same ridiculus HP as a V8 and they are lighter to boot! Aren't those the two essentials of racing? Gain power and Lose weight.
I am just wondering because I was recently intoduced to Rotories and I don't see any flaws in them.
StangNut86
03-16-2004, 05:45 PM
disadvantages of rotaries:
1 they don't torque worth a shit, which makes your 700HP worthless
2 the only way to effectively get 700HP out of a rotary is to get one with more than 2 rotors, like in Mazda's race cars.
3 the exhaust always, always sounds like a lawnmower no matter what you do to it
4 yes they're lighter, but they're a lot less durable... you'll go through apex seals (about the equivalent of piston rings) at an incredible rate, as well as gaskets, and especially if it's an older design.
if you're really that hardcore about a rotary, get yourself an RX-7 and build it up. I personally love RX-7s and they're the only import i would ever be somewhat serious about. There's absolutely no reason to taint the Mustang's name with one of those motors. there are many other ways to make your Stang unique besides an engine swap. here's the rule... if everybody uses the same thing, do something different with that thing. hell, some guys even put V-10s in their stangs, even the guys at Ford did so, and i thought that was pretty sweet. of course, i'll just stick to my Windsor, one of the hottest motors made IMHO
bottom line, stick with pistons... you won't get laughed at, you'll own all the people who insist on laughing at whatever you do build, and you'll be much happier. American cars use pistons, and it's just as simple as that.
1 they don't torque worth a shit, which makes your 700HP worthless
2 the only way to effectively get 700HP out of a rotary is to get one with more than 2 rotors, like in Mazda's race cars.
3 the exhaust always, always sounds like a lawnmower no matter what you do to it
4 yes they're lighter, but they're a lot less durable... you'll go through apex seals (about the equivalent of piston rings) at an incredible rate, as well as gaskets, and especially if it's an older design.
if you're really that hardcore about a rotary, get yourself an RX-7 and build it up. I personally love RX-7s and they're the only import i would ever be somewhat serious about. There's absolutely no reason to taint the Mustang's name with one of those motors. there are many other ways to make your Stang unique besides an engine swap. here's the rule... if everybody uses the same thing, do something different with that thing. hell, some guys even put V-10s in their stangs, even the guys at Ford did so, and i thought that was pretty sweet. of course, i'll just stick to my Windsor, one of the hottest motors made IMHO
bottom line, stick with pistons... you won't get laughed at, you'll own all the people who insist on laughing at whatever you do build, and you'll be much happier. American cars use pistons, and it's just as simple as that.
91mr2ski
03-16-2004, 07:29 PM
you are absolutely INSANE nothing should ever be said like that ever again. Ever
RSLaser
03-16-2004, 07:33 PM
i like the idea of a rotary engine in a mustang my little bro has a stang with a little motor thought but its pretty awsome a 140 ci making 143 hp cause it has a factory turbo witch is awsome considering it was built in 1979 he has a link 2 go and look at it its >
http://members.cardomain.com/turbo_raccoon
i like the idea of a rotary engine it might be becasue i have a rice car but thats me.
http://members.cardomain.com/turbo_raccoon
i like the idea of a rotary engine it might be becasue i have a rice car but thats me.
thunderbird muscle
03-16-2004, 08:57 PM
quote StangNut86 [disadvantages of rotaries:
1 they don't torque worth a shit, which makes your 700HP worthless
2 the only way to effectively get 700HP out of a rotary is to get one with more than 2 rotors, like in Mazda's race cars.
3 the exhaust always, always sounds like a lawnmower no matter what you do to it
4 yes they're lighter, but they're a lot less durable... you'll go through apex seals (about the equivalent of piston rings) at an incredible rate, as well as gaskets, and especially if it's an older design.
if you're really that hardcore about a rotary, get yourself an RX-7 and build it up. I personally love RX-7s and they're the only import i would ever be somewhat serious about. There's absolutely no reason to taint the Mustang's name with one of those motors. there are many other ways to make your Stang unique besides an engine swap. here's the rule... if everybody uses the same thing, do something different with that thing. hell, some guys even put V-10s in their stangs, even the guys at Ford did so, and i thought that was pretty sweet. of course, i'll just stick to my Windsor, one of the hottest motors made IMHO
bottom line, stick with pistons... you won't get laughed at, you'll own all the people who insist on laughing at whatever you do build, and you'll be much happier. American cars use pistons, and it's just as simple as that.
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Very and I mean very few imports put out enough torque to think about comparing at the american automobile level.
:disappoin You disapoint all who enjoy a good american made vehicle. With people like you destroying the good american cars what will we do?
And I agree with stangnut 86 The Rx7 is one of the few imports worth having and it is an excellent choice(for an import)
And I have a correction stangnut 86 They don't sound like a lawn mower they sound like a weed eater.lol
Like I said I will challenge him any day in my 95 thunderbird lx 4.6. I have torque HAHA.
1 they don't torque worth a shit, which makes your 700HP worthless
2 the only way to effectively get 700HP out of a rotary is to get one with more than 2 rotors, like in Mazda's race cars.
3 the exhaust always, always sounds like a lawnmower no matter what you do to it
4 yes they're lighter, but they're a lot less durable... you'll go through apex seals (about the equivalent of piston rings) at an incredible rate, as well as gaskets, and especially if it's an older design.
if you're really that hardcore about a rotary, get yourself an RX-7 and build it up. I personally love RX-7s and they're the only import i would ever be somewhat serious about. There's absolutely no reason to taint the Mustang's name with one of those motors. there are many other ways to make your Stang unique besides an engine swap. here's the rule... if everybody uses the same thing, do something different with that thing. hell, some guys even put V-10s in their stangs, even the guys at Ford did so, and i thought that was pretty sweet. of course, i'll just stick to my Windsor, one of the hottest motors made IMHO
bottom line, stick with pistons... you won't get laughed at, you'll own all the people who insist on laughing at whatever you do build, and you'll be much happier. American cars use pistons, and it's just as simple as that.
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Very and I mean very few imports put out enough torque to think about comparing at the american automobile level.
:disappoin You disapoint all who enjoy a good american made vehicle. With people like you destroying the good american cars what will we do?
And I agree with stangnut 86 The Rx7 is one of the few imports worth having and it is an excellent choice(for an import)
And I have a correction stangnut 86 They don't sound like a lawn mower they sound like a weed eater.lol
Like I said I will challenge him any day in my 95 thunderbird lx 4.6. I have torque HAHA.
DevoutWankelist
03-16-2004, 09:19 PM
Yeah, definately a weed whacker. But anyway, on behalf of the rotary community, we would like to disown FR Madness :screwy: . . . Please understand that this moron is not an accurate representation of true rotary enthusiasts. I beleive this http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=202128 is his first post in our forums and we have never seen him before. Please continue flaming this flamer. Thanks
PS. I also think that this would be a waste of both a 20b and a mustang,
You can get over 700hp out of 2 rotors, and he can't even spell rotary.
PPS. YEAYYYY. . . The rotary community may be getting a higher displacement rotary in the near future with the release of the new rx7 which should hopefully come with a new 3 rotor motor. YEAYYY
PS. I also think that this would be a waste of both a 20b and a mustang,
You can get over 700hp out of 2 rotors, and he can't even spell rotary.
PPS. YEAYYYY. . . The rotary community may be getting a higher displacement rotary in the near future with the release of the new rx7 which should hopefully come with a new 3 rotor motor. YEAYYY
Soyo
03-16-2004, 10:14 PM
some rotaries rev over 12k... and it would be dumb to put a 20B in a mustang when you could put it in an RX-7 that would handle extrodinarily better and be faster since its lighter... why even bother with a huge boat of a car like a mustang? they are ugly and way too common anyways... nothing but TRASH! :)
StangNut86
03-16-2004, 10:19 PM
some rotaries rev over 12k... and it would be dumb to put a 20B in a mustang when you could put it in an RX-7 that would handle extrodinarily better and be faster since its lighter... why even bother with a huge boat of a car like a mustang? they are ugly and way too common anyways... nothing but TRASH! :)
you're trying to turn this rotary mustang flaming into a mustang flaming... in a mustang forum. that makes no sense. go away.
you're trying to turn this rotary mustang flaming into a mustang flaming... in a mustang forum. that makes no sense. go away.
Soyo
03-16-2004, 10:26 PM
disadvantages of rotaries:
1 they don't torque worth a shit, which makes your 700HP worthless
2 the only way to effectively get 700HP out of a rotary is to get one with more than 2 rotors, like in Mazda's race cars.
3 the exhaust always, always sounds like a lawnmower no matter what you do to it
4 yes they're lighter, but they're a lot less durable... you'll go through apex seals (about the equivalent of piston rings) at an incredible rate, as well as gaskets, and especially if it's an older design.
if you're really that hardcore about a rotary, get yourself an RX-7 and build it up. I personally love RX-7s and they're the only import i would ever be somewhat serious about. There's absolutely no reason to taint the Mustang's name with one of those motors. there are many other ways to make your Stang unique besides an engine swap. here's the rule... if everybody uses the same thing, do something different with that thing. hell, some guys even put V-10s in their stangs, even the guys at Ford did so, and i thought that was pretty sweet. of course, i'll just stick to my Windsor, one of the hottest motors made IMHO
bottom line, stick with pistons... you won't get laughed at, you'll own all the people who insist on laughing at whatever you do build, and you'll be much happier. American cars use pistons, and it's just as simple as that.
ok tell me again why 700hp doesn't mean jack because of no torque? no torque? yea your crazy, thats why there are rx-7's(with 3 rotor engines not the 4 rotor race engines) that run 9's in the 1/4 mile and would rip apart any mustang you put next to it on a road coarse... maybe you could tell me what makes a 700hp rotary suck without saying it has no torque because they have plenty, because an rx-7 is much lighter than a mustang therefore needs much less torque... why have more than you need? we don't want to spin our tires all the way down the track now do we?
rotary race engines(le mans car) had 4 rotors with is pretty hard to get your hands on, and expensive as can be... but obviously you know nothing about rotaries because the 3rd gen had 3 rotors, so what I'm basically saying is that your retarded because thats a street car sold at dealers with more than 2 rotors. the fact that you didn't know that simple piece of information makes everything you say worthless and unbelievable.
you obviously haven't seen a lot of rx-7 race cars, they sound nothing like a lawnmower, sorry but your wrong again.
yea apex seals go easier, but with any high horsepower car you have to totally rebuild the engine, meaning better parts, also meaning it will with stand more. but again, you have no clue what your saying because rotaries last longer than piston engines because they have far less moving parts and a much much much smoother powerband, so the engine runs smoother and gets less stress.
why stick with pistons when rotaries are smaller, lighter, have less moving parts, etc...... anyways enough about that, maybe next time you'll remember you don't know anything about rotaries before you post about them
1 they don't torque worth a shit, which makes your 700HP worthless
2 the only way to effectively get 700HP out of a rotary is to get one with more than 2 rotors, like in Mazda's race cars.
3 the exhaust always, always sounds like a lawnmower no matter what you do to it
4 yes they're lighter, but they're a lot less durable... you'll go through apex seals (about the equivalent of piston rings) at an incredible rate, as well as gaskets, and especially if it's an older design.
if you're really that hardcore about a rotary, get yourself an RX-7 and build it up. I personally love RX-7s and they're the only import i would ever be somewhat serious about. There's absolutely no reason to taint the Mustang's name with one of those motors. there are many other ways to make your Stang unique besides an engine swap. here's the rule... if everybody uses the same thing, do something different with that thing. hell, some guys even put V-10s in their stangs, even the guys at Ford did so, and i thought that was pretty sweet. of course, i'll just stick to my Windsor, one of the hottest motors made IMHO
bottom line, stick with pistons... you won't get laughed at, you'll own all the people who insist on laughing at whatever you do build, and you'll be much happier. American cars use pistons, and it's just as simple as that.
ok tell me again why 700hp doesn't mean jack because of no torque? no torque? yea your crazy, thats why there are rx-7's(with 3 rotor engines not the 4 rotor race engines) that run 9's in the 1/4 mile and would rip apart any mustang you put next to it on a road coarse... maybe you could tell me what makes a 700hp rotary suck without saying it has no torque because they have plenty, because an rx-7 is much lighter than a mustang therefore needs much less torque... why have more than you need? we don't want to spin our tires all the way down the track now do we?
rotary race engines(le mans car) had 4 rotors with is pretty hard to get your hands on, and expensive as can be... but obviously you know nothing about rotaries because the 3rd gen had 3 rotors, so what I'm basically saying is that your retarded because thats a street car sold at dealers with more than 2 rotors. the fact that you didn't know that simple piece of information makes everything you say worthless and unbelievable.
you obviously haven't seen a lot of rx-7 race cars, they sound nothing like a lawnmower, sorry but your wrong again.
yea apex seals go easier, but with any high horsepower car you have to totally rebuild the engine, meaning better parts, also meaning it will with stand more. but again, you have no clue what your saying because rotaries last longer than piston engines because they have far less moving parts and a much much much smoother powerband, so the engine runs smoother and gets less stress.
why stick with pistons when rotaries are smaller, lighter, have less moving parts, etc...... anyways enough about that, maybe next time you'll remember you don't know anything about rotaries before you post about them
90Stangjc
03-16-2004, 10:37 PM
some rotaries rev over 12k... and it would be dumb to put a 20B in a mustang when you could put it in an RX-7 that would handle extrodinarily better and be faster since its lighter... why even bother with a huge boat of a car like a mustang? they are ugly and way too common anyways... nothing but TRASH! :)
Go away dumbass. You have a RX-7 non-turbo, their slow and ugly as hell. Your car power is equal to that of my lawnmower, no wait my lawnmower has more power than your piece of shit. Hahaha he flames and i'll flame. CLOSE THE THREAD!!!!
P.S.- oh yeah, you know why they stopped production of the RX-7? Because the engine fucked up all the time and was NOT reliable.
Go away dumbass. You have a RX-7 non-turbo, their slow and ugly as hell. Your car power is equal to that of my lawnmower, no wait my lawnmower has more power than your piece of shit. Hahaha he flames and i'll flame. CLOSE THE THREAD!!!!
P.S.- oh yeah, you know why they stopped production of the RX-7? Because the engine fucked up all the time and was NOT reliable.
Soyo
03-16-2004, 10:38 PM
you're trying to turn this rotary mustang flaming into a mustang flaming... in a mustang forum. that makes no sense. go away.
why does it make no sense? you want me to hide in the rx-7 forum and talk trash on mustangs so that you don't know about it?
I'm flaming the mustang rotary too, if you don't believe me then just look hear, I posted this to FR Madness before I eveven read this thread: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1641109&goto=1641109
anyways I still don't like mustangs, but I like the idea of a rotary mustang even worse if that makes you feel any better :)
why does it make no sense? you want me to hide in the rx-7 forum and talk trash on mustangs so that you don't know about it?
I'm flaming the mustang rotary too, if you don't believe me then just look hear, I posted this to FR Madness before I eveven read this thread: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1641109&goto=1641109
anyways I still don't like mustangs, but I like the idea of a rotary mustang even worse if that makes you feel any better :)
DkShadow
03-16-2004, 10:43 PM
Soyo, go away. Youre doing nothing to help this. Instead youre just causing a flame war. I personally like Rx-7s but I would drop in a 5.0 into them to suit my needs. Its just the way things are. Some like gay homo sounding motors like the Rotary, others like the deep badass sound of a 5.0/4.6 motor. :)
Soyo
03-16-2004, 10:46 PM
Go away dumbass. You have a RX-7 non-turbo, their slow and ugly as hell. Your car power is equal to that of my lawnmower, no wait my lawnmower has more power than your piece of shit. Hahaha he flames and i'll flame. CLOSE THE THREAD!!!!
P.S.- oh yeah, you know why they stopped production of the RX-7? Because the engine fucked up all the time and was NOT reliable.
ok so I have a non-turbo? thanks for pointing that out since its blatently obvious seeing as how its in my signature which is at the bottom of every one of my posts!
do I drag race? NO
do I drift? yes
do I need a thousand horsepower to drift? NO
so I want a turbo car so I have to waste time letting it cool down so I don't ruin it? NO, why go to the trouble when I could just drive a non-turbo which happens to be much more reliable anyways
is my non-turbo rotary more reliable than your engine? BY FAR!
do you have anymore stupid comments for me? I hope not because your also dumb for saying they stopped production since they are about to start production again, and making it even worse is that DevoutWankelist just talked about the new RX-7 which will have a rotary
oh and one more thing, why did they ban rotaries from the Le Mans? oh yea thats right, because they KILLED everyone else! ok lets talk some more trash on the rotary shall we?
P.S.- oh yeah, you know why they stopped production of the RX-7? Because the engine fucked up all the time and was NOT reliable.
ok so I have a non-turbo? thanks for pointing that out since its blatently obvious seeing as how its in my signature which is at the bottom of every one of my posts!
do I drag race? NO
do I drift? yes
do I need a thousand horsepower to drift? NO
so I want a turbo car so I have to waste time letting it cool down so I don't ruin it? NO, why go to the trouble when I could just drive a non-turbo which happens to be much more reliable anyways
is my non-turbo rotary more reliable than your engine? BY FAR!
do you have anymore stupid comments for me? I hope not because your also dumb for saying they stopped production since they are about to start production again, and making it even worse is that DevoutWankelist just talked about the new RX-7 which will have a rotary
oh and one more thing, why did they ban rotaries from the Le Mans? oh yea thats right, because they KILLED everyone else! ok lets talk some more trash on the rotary shall we?
DkShadow
03-16-2004, 10:47 PM
i like the idea of a rotary engine in a mustang my little bro has a stang with a little motor thought but its pretty awsome a 140 ci making 143 hp cause it has a factory turbo witch is awsome considering it was built in 1979 he has a link 2 go and look at it its >
http://members.cardomain.com/turbo_raccoon
i like the idea of a rotary engine it might be becasue i have a rice car but thats me.
Ah i love the Pace Edition :)
http://members.cardomain.com/turbo_raccoon
i like the idea of a rotary engine it might be becasue i have a rice car but thats me.
Ah i love the Pace Edition :)
SikNingStang
03-16-2004, 11:01 PM
If it's true that you have a non-turbo RX-7 then I understand why you don't like Mustang's... cuz they embarass you on the strip. Face it, your car requires a twin turbo to hang with a stock Mustang... Don't hate the superior machine just because you can't beat it, it's called respect
DkShadow
03-16-2004, 11:04 PM
ok so I have a non-turbo? thanks for pointing that out since its blatently obvious seeing as how its in my signature which is at the bottom of every one of my posts!
do I drag race? NO
do I drift? yes
do I need a thousand horsepower to drift? NO
so I want a turbo car so I have to waste time letting it cool down so I don't ruin it? NO, why go to the trouble when I could just drive a non-turbo which happens to be much more reliable anyways
is my non-turbo rotary more reliable than your engine? BY FAR!
do you have anymore stupid comments for me? I hope not because your also dumb for saying they stopped production since they are about to start production again, and making it even worse is that DevoutWankelist just talked about the new RX-7 which will have a rotary
oh and one more thing, why did they ban rotaries from the Le Mans? oh yea thats right, because they KILLED everyone else! ok lets talk some more trash on the rotary shall we?
MOre reliable? HAHAHAHAHA
do I drag race? NO
do I drift? yes
do I need a thousand horsepower to drift? NO
so I want a turbo car so I have to waste time letting it cool down so I don't ruin it? NO, why go to the trouble when I could just drive a non-turbo which happens to be much more reliable anyways
is my non-turbo rotary more reliable than your engine? BY FAR!
do you have anymore stupid comments for me? I hope not because your also dumb for saying they stopped production since they are about to start production again, and making it even worse is that DevoutWankelist just talked about the new RX-7 which will have a rotary
oh and one more thing, why did they ban rotaries from the Le Mans? oh yea thats right, because they KILLED everyone else! ok lets talk some more trash on the rotary shall we?
MOre reliable? HAHAHAHAHA
DkShadow
03-16-2004, 11:07 PM
:rofl: Damn... the flamewar is gettin started :disappoin
SIKCRX
03-16-2004, 11:57 PM
302>20b ..........plain and simple.
Mustang>RX7 ...........even more plain and simple
soyo=jackass ........common fucking sense
we dont go to the rx7 forums and talk shit, please dont come to ours and talk shit
Mustang>RX7 ...........even more plain and simple
soyo=jackass ........common fucking sense
we dont go to the rx7 forums and talk shit, please dont come to ours and talk shit
HiFlow5 0
03-17-2004, 12:00 AM
:rofl: Damn... the flamewar is gettin started :disappoin
Nope, I just ended it!
Nope, I just ended it!
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