stroker kit
95_gst_red
03-13-2004, 07:35 PM
hey ive look all over for a stroker kit for my 4g63 and cant find one can anyone help me.
ps and how about a ram air hood :banghead:
ps and how about a ram air hood :banghead:
Chavez408
03-13-2004, 07:46 PM
Hood (http://www.carhoods.com/GoodHoods/GHM-100.htm)
stroker (http://www.strokerkits.com/misc_h_-_beams.htm)
im not very sure about the stroker site but thats all i could find right now, and i am sort of buzy..sorry
stroker (http://www.strokerkits.com/misc_h_-_beams.htm)
im not very sure about the stroker site but thats all i could find right now, and i am sort of buzy..sorry
JoeWagon
03-13-2004, 08:10 PM
To my knowledge, you can get a 4G64 (2.4L spyder) crank to stroke to 2.3 liters. I could be completely wrong, hopefully 95 GSXracer stops by, as he has recently done it.
ashah000
03-13-2004, 08:35 PM
Take a drill and cut the hump in your hood :)
Custom scoop :)
Custom scoop :)
kjewer1
03-14-2004, 03:27 AM
SBR and Magnus are building strokers. If you just want the internals checou out car shop inc.
www.slowboyracing.com (4g64/g64b or stroked 4g63)
www.magnusmotorsports.com(only sells 4g64s)
www.carshopinc.com(just internals for stroking the 4g63)
There is plenty of info out there on swapping to a 4g64 or g64b 2.4 liter and using the 4g63 head.
www.slowboyracing.com (4g64/g64b or stroked 4g63)
www.magnusmotorsports.com(only sells 4g64s)
www.carshopinc.com(just internals for stroking the 4g63)
There is plenty of info out there on swapping to a 4g64 or g64b 2.4 liter and using the 4g63 head.
RocketDSM
03-16-2004, 07:27 PM
The following companies I have found make stroker engines or kits:
FFWD Connection
VT Engines
Buschur Racing
Forced Performance
DSM Specialties
Crower (the best one in my opinion; only one to make a 2.4L Stroker out of a 4G63 casting - BELIEVE IT)
That's all I can remember right now. I do searches on Google about twice a week to see if anyone new comes up. Just enter 4G63 stroker, works great for me.
FFWD Connection
VT Engines
Buschur Racing
Forced Performance
DSM Specialties
Crower (the best one in my opinion; only one to make a 2.4L Stroker out of a 4G63 casting - BELIEVE IT)
That's all I can remember right now. I do searches on Google about twice a week to see if anyone new comes up. Just enter 4G63 stroker, works great for me.
kjewer1
03-17-2004, 09:06 AM
Crower (the best one in my opinion; only one to make a 2.4L Stroker out of a 4G63 casting - BELIEVE IT)
I'm running a 4g64 crank in a 4g63 block, bored 60 over (2.4 liter). So I have no idea what you mean by this. I'm assuming I'm misunderstanding your statement.
I'm running a 4g64 crank in a 4g63 block, bored 60 over (2.4 liter). So I have no idea what you mean by this. I'm assuming I'm misunderstanding your statement.
RocketDSM
03-17-2004, 09:13 AM
Look at the actual cc's of your displacement. Even though Mitsu called it a 2.4L it is only a 2.35L by the cc's (2351). The Crower kit makes an extra 2mm in stroke allowing a realistic 2.4L by the actual cc's (2398). So I'm sorry to tell you, you don't have a 2.4L.
kjewer1
03-17-2004, 09:43 AM
So I'm sorry to tell you, you don't have a 2.4L.
Dont be sorry, chances are my car will still molest yours all the way down the track. ;) Now that thats out of the way, here is a lesson in math.
My bore, and that of the 4g64, is 87.5mm, and the stroke is 100mm. Thats stock 4g64 crank from mitsu, and 4g63 bored 60 over. /060 inches is 1.524 mm, stock 4g63 is 86mm bore. 87.5, which is the same as the 4g64 block bore.
Displacement equal Pi(bore/2)squared x stroke x number of cylinders.
In metric units:
3.14*87.5/2*87.5/2*100*4 = 2404062.5
Divide by 100 to convert from mm3 to cc3 (2404.06), then again to convert cc3 to liters (1 cc equals mL) (2.404).
2.404 sounds like a 2.4 liter to me. Lets do it in english units for all the rednecks out there. 87.5mm equals 3.444872 inches, and 100mm is 3.936996 inches. Same formula.
3.14*1.72*1.72*3.936996x4 = 146.70 cubic inches.
Convert cubic inches to liters, and you get 2403.982 liters.
Again, sounds fine to me. If you dont like my math, try one of the many calculators out there, like this one http://www.btinternet.com/~mezporting/enginepower.html, here http://www.torinocobra.com/Randys_tools.htm, etc...
And I wont even mention that 50 cc difference would mean 2 percent less power than a full 2.4 anyway. At 500 HP we're talking 10 horse.
Why do you people like to twist my nuts....
Dont be sorry, chances are my car will still molest yours all the way down the track. ;) Now that thats out of the way, here is a lesson in math.
My bore, and that of the 4g64, is 87.5mm, and the stroke is 100mm. Thats stock 4g64 crank from mitsu, and 4g63 bored 60 over. /060 inches is 1.524 mm, stock 4g63 is 86mm bore. 87.5, which is the same as the 4g64 block bore.
Displacement equal Pi(bore/2)squared x stroke x number of cylinders.
In metric units:
3.14*87.5/2*87.5/2*100*4 = 2404062.5
Divide by 100 to convert from mm3 to cc3 (2404.06), then again to convert cc3 to liters (1 cc equals mL) (2.404).
2.404 sounds like a 2.4 liter to me. Lets do it in english units for all the rednecks out there. 87.5mm equals 3.444872 inches, and 100mm is 3.936996 inches. Same formula.
3.14*1.72*1.72*3.936996x4 = 146.70 cubic inches.
Convert cubic inches to liters, and you get 2403.982 liters.
Again, sounds fine to me. If you dont like my math, try one of the many calculators out there, like this one http://www.btinternet.com/~mezporting/enginepower.html, here http://www.torinocobra.com/Randys_tools.htm, etc...
And I wont even mention that 50 cc difference would mean 2 percent less power than a full 2.4 anyway. At 500 HP we're talking 10 horse.
Why do you people like to twist my nuts....
duckydsp
03-17-2004, 12:17 PM
:owned:
I needed a good laugh. I love newbies.
I needed a good laugh. I love newbies.
RocketDSM
03-17-2004, 12:33 PM
1) Not a newbie, just new to AF.
2) The stock dimenstions of a 4G63 are 85mm bore, 86mm stroke. Try again.
2) The stock dimenstions of a 4G63 are 85mm bore, 86mm stroke. Try again.
FourG63 97GST
03-17-2004, 12:38 PM
then I have a 1.9L :)
RocketDSM
03-17-2004, 01:11 PM
Yep, our 2.0L aren't actually 2L's. I have the service manuals at home (I'm at work right now). If I remember right the 4G63 comes in around 1990 cc's. Sorry for not being specific, I just don't have my manual handy.
kjewer1
03-17-2004, 01:31 PM
1) Not a newbie, just new to AF.
2) The stock dimenstions of a 4G63 are 85mm bore, 86mm stroke. Try again.
Alright. I dont like your "sorry to tell you" and "try again" attitude. Its a pisspoor halfassed attempt at being cool. But, I can admit when I am wrong. :icon16: I was going from memory, and my memory was wrong. It does in fact work out to 2.35 with an 86.5 bore, which I believe is correct. But like I said its a 10 HP difference between the two at my HP level, so you are in fact still twisting my nuts. I stand by that statement... :biggrin: Good catch, and welcome to the site.
2) The stock dimenstions of a 4G63 are 85mm bore, 86mm stroke. Try again.
Alright. I dont like your "sorry to tell you" and "try again" attitude. Its a pisspoor halfassed attempt at being cool. But, I can admit when I am wrong. :icon16: I was going from memory, and my memory was wrong. It does in fact work out to 2.35 with an 86.5 bore, which I believe is correct. But like I said its a 10 HP difference between the two at my HP level, so you are in fact still twisting my nuts. I stand by that statement... :biggrin: Good catch, and welcome to the site.
LandoAWD
03-17-2004, 02:09 PM
If I remember right the 4G63 comes in around 1990 cc's.
1997cc
For not having your manual handy, you sure were confident calling Kevin out. :)
1997cc
For not having your manual handy, you sure were confident calling Kevin out. :)
LandoAWD
03-17-2004, 02:11 PM
Take a drill and cut the hump in your hood :)
Custom scoop :)
You running the super-heated cam gears too?
;)
j/k
Custom scoop :)
You running the super-heated cam gears too?
;)
j/k
RocketDSM
03-17-2004, 04:33 PM
I wasn't trying to piss anyone off. I genuinely mean it when I say "sorry to say" and "try again". Not all the information is correct that is put on public forums and having to tell someone they are wrong should be accompanied by some manners. My try again statement was for you to recalculate your numbers. Nothing more. I am not trying to be cool. I've been a geek my entire life and have no intentions of changing.
I was confident enough in the base dimensions of a 4G63 because I've been looking to increase it for over two years. I like playing with engine dimensions. Been doing it for years.
I apologize once more for appearing to have a bad attitude and trying to piss people off.
I was confident enough in the base dimensions of a 4G63 because I've been looking to increase it for over two years. I like playing with engine dimensions. Been doing it for years.
I apologize once more for appearing to have a bad attitude and trying to piss people off.
ashah000
03-17-2004, 04:50 PM
You running the super-heated cam gears too?
;)
j/k
The scoop has been done before...
I can try to find pics if anyone wants them.
Ok call me a noob... what are super-heated cam gears? :sly:
I know what cam gears are but super heated?
;)
j/k
The scoop has been done before...
I can try to find pics if anyone wants them.
Ok call me a noob... what are super-heated cam gears? :sly:
I know what cam gears are but super heated?
kjewer1
03-18-2004, 07:48 AM
I was confident enough in the base dimensions of a 4G63 because I've been looking to increase it for over two years. I like playing with engine dimensions. Been doing it for years.
Its a worthy cause. After making the swap to my "2.35", which rounds up to 2.4 by the way :icon16: I don think I'll be going back to a 2 liter anytime soon. If I can get one season out of it, I'll be happy. I dont mind a quick hone and rering every winter. But who knows, it may last fine. I'm dying to see how the cylinder wall finish holds up over the course of this season.
The large turbo I'm running spools like a 16g, and the extra torque is nice when just driving around.
I apologize once more for appearing to have a bad attitude and trying to piss people off.
Well, I would say by that statement you might have a good atitude after all. Again, Welcome to the forum ;)
Its a worthy cause. After making the swap to my "2.35", which rounds up to 2.4 by the way :icon16: I don think I'll be going back to a 2 liter anytime soon. If I can get one season out of it, I'll be happy. I dont mind a quick hone and rering every winter. But who knows, it may last fine. I'm dying to see how the cylinder wall finish holds up over the course of this season.
The large turbo I'm running spools like a 16g, and the extra torque is nice when just driving around.
I apologize once more for appearing to have a bad attitude and trying to piss people off.
Well, I would say by that statement you might have a good atitude after all. Again, Welcome to the forum ;)
LandoAWD
03-18-2004, 08:16 AM
The scoop has been done before...
I can try to find pics if anyone wants them.
Ok call me a noob... what are super-heated cam gears? :sly:
I know what cam gears are but super heated?
Just a joke. A scoop there would serve little purpose.
I can try to find pics if anyone wants them.
Ok call me a noob... what are super-heated cam gears? :sly:
I know what cam gears are but super heated?
Just a joke. A scoop there would serve little purpose.
duckydsp
03-18-2004, 05:49 PM
I am not trying to be cool. I've been a geek my entire life and have no intentions of changing.
Honesty is an admirable quality. I wish more people would be like that.
Honesty is an admirable quality. I wish more people would be like that.
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