For everyone interested in TURBOING AN RS/GS OR TALON ESI!!!

Edit: You can all thank Jake for deleting the really good info he had in this post... yeah..he really cares...


If anyone has any of the info from this PM it to me and i'll try to get it back up. Until then it's closed.

Josh

Edit *FormulaLT1*

I thought since Jake took away something interesting to read, I would give all you guys some classic Jake til we can get this post restored. Good luck guys

John
if you dont care then why post... why read it? you obviously do care seeing you had to post a stupid ass comment like that! this thread was on topic... and even still is cause he basically screwed me out of $28 cause of the bounced check charges! so if you were to buy something from him or sell something to him... you wouldnt care that he might fuck you over! he was the one who started the thread in the first place then it escilated, yes its over now! am i goin to lock it?... no~ i am just a AF regular now, if joe or any other mod wants to lock it go right ahead. and bostonjoe, dont tell me what i can and cant do - you have no position too, seeing you are not a mod now are you? didnt think so! so unless you want to end up like 98GSX... i'd suggest keeping your comments to yourself and not telling me or any other mod how to do their job.

~Jake
Feel free to edit this as you see fit Josh.

Is the higher compression the reason that it will produce more power than a stock 4G63T?

it has a little to do with it, but the compression is only like .5:1 or 1:1 more than a turbo motor so it doesnt help that much... honestly i do not know why it makes it fast, i know when i dynoed it, right after i put the first turbo kit on, and i was at 224hp and 232 ft lb/tq although i am not sure on just that little amount of hp and tq how much faster it could get you, i am just goin off my experiance... i'm sorry i forgot to state that you will only be faster if you have your car tuned just right and everything is working good together!!! and you know how to drive the car, now with an auto, i would probably say you would be about even since it is a little slower!

same way with nitrous... before i put the turbo on, i did some fuel adjustments and put a 75 shot wet kit in! that got me quicker than a stock GSX-GST... it didnt help as much as the turbo does but it got me quicker! and for all i know the drivers around here could suck ass and not know how to drive! so again i am going on experiance!

Also a kind of useful page that explains turbochargers in simple terms for noobs, and might make a some of Jake's stuff clearer...(i think someone else on this forum posted this and i stole it...):

http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yelevich/turbo/turbo.html

Not....sure...how to link...dammit! Does html work lol?

http://www.hahnracecraft.com/auto/eclipse/eclipse.htm

http://www.groupbuycenter.com/buy.aspx?id=10877

these are sites to get the kits. These are the cheapest I could find for the HRC and Star kits.

ok i understand everything you guys have posted except the part about the stock exhaust manifold and the stol... i mean the one off a 2nd gen. turbo model. why do you need both?
what you do is cut the flange that mounts to the head off of both manifolds... grind it down smooth and flat, and weld the non turbo flange to the turbo manifold and tada you have a turbo manifold that fits on a non turbo! then you gind the welds down a little and paint it... looks like its stock! :p

sorry if its a little too much work for most of you... but i would not rather spend 500 on a manifold when i can make my own out of used parts... and if you dont have a welder or know how to weld, i can make them for $100 + shipping!

ok, i have my big 16g turbo, front mount intercooler, blitz dd bov, gst exhaust manifold, 450cc injectors, boost gauge, boost controller(manual but ok), new gst turbo oil pan, and the 255lph fuel pump. the only things left are oil return line, custom piping and have eclipserst(if he will) custom make my manifold. Eclipserst- can you tell me where you got the oil return line, if you will do the exhaust manifold and where and how you did the turbo piping? did you use pvc pipe? if so, where did yah get it and how did you make it work? those are the only 3 things i need left and i am buggin cuz import showdown is in June. i want to enter my car, but i want it to be complete(well except for the interior). anyway in case you guys from Minnesota don't know, there is a Huge Import Showdown at the State Fair Grounds June 25,26 and 27. You should check it out. Eclipserst- you should enter into it, it doesn't cost anything and there is $50,000.00 in cash and prizes. It's worth it just to say you where there man. even if i don't win, i'm going to look back when i'm older and be able to say i was part of the first ever Import Showdown in Minnesota. And besides there are hella sponsors there too, they may like something they see. Hmm....an eclipse rs.....t?.......in minnesota......they do know there import shit!! sponsors will eat your car up, hopefully mine too!! anyway just need last parts and wanted to let you all know about the import showdown at the state fair grounds.

:screwy: 1 luv = my riceburner :twak: ponnies are for little girls :dupe: bowties are for sunday school boys and well diamonds are forever :bananadie

I'd head to the showdown with mandrel bent piping for the intercooler, and not PVC. :) You'll want a fuel pressure regulator for that 255lph pump as well.

I'd head to the showdown with mandrel bent piping for the intercooler, and not PVC. :) You'll want a fuel pressure regulator for that 255lph pump as well.

and where may i find this mandrel bent piping plz? thanks for the headzup on the fuel pressure regulator too............you other guys should be on top of this!!j/k. any specific fuel pressure regulator?

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I don't know how to decide which bends though.. and you'll need some straight tubing, naturally. RST should know about the bends, and it depends on which FMIC you use.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/parts/default.php?cPath=3_144_93
You'll have to search dsmtuners for opinions on what FPR. I wouldn't know.

I am a little currious,
Where do you get your oil return line to?
Do you use the stock Normally Asperated Engine Control Unit?
Are you placing your Mass Air Meter before of after turbine?
If you are using the stock Normally asperated engine control unit what are you using to control the added fuel? S-AFC... what?
Where does the oil send to the turbo come from the oil pan? it is my understanding that oil is not under pressure in the oil pan.

Just so you know, I am not really a newb I know my SHIT. Turbo wise anyway, this will be my first DSM my freind has a non turbo Eagle talon ES he baught a 14G turbo from a stock Talon. I am going to custom weld and make the turbo manifold equal length. So that isn't a problem.
I have a ~400RWHP Mazda RX-7 All the work was done by myself.
So if you guy's could answer my questions that would be great.
Thanks

1. oil return line goes to the oil pan... you can tap right into the side of your pan!

2. yes you can use the stock ECU

3. you dont need a MAS

4. S-AFC is what i use to control the fuel

5. you can tap into where the oil pressure sending unit is or there is a oil galley on the side of the head

Eclipse RST, how did you work out the fuel pump and injectors? Did you reprogram the ecu or what? Can you fill me in on that please.

what i did is repinned my wiring harness to connect to a 97 GST ECU... thats when i was still on stock internals so i had 450cc injectors and a fuel pump out of a 97 GST so it worked perfectly... but now i am running a S-AFC

So exactly what parts of the engine internals need to be replaced to run more than 10 PSI of boost in the non-turbo eclipse? Just the rods and pistons? I am planning on running maybe 10-12 PSI of boost and I want to stay on the safe side, so I need to know which parts in particular need to be replaced. Thanks guys!

P.S. -- EclipseRST, thank you for the information on the custom turbo! It is definitely something I will keep in mind when I'm searching for my turbo! =)

pistons and rods for sure... and if i were you i would do the valve springs too, if anything get them from a GST or a GSX... they have stronger ones so you wont have the chance of getting valve float and possibly bending valves! other than that everything else is fine! and since you already have the motor apart replacing the springs why not do the valves and cams... unless you really cant afford the extra 5-600, but it will allow you to flow a lot more boost!

yeah...what size core/dementions are good for a FMIC for turboing the gs/rs?
thanks

any size will work the best and cheapest would probably be a SMIC, but if you want a FMIC go with something small, like 22x6x2.5, that will work fine!

ok... sorry guys i've just been busy lately with the GST and when i'm on here i over looked the threads at the top...

ok for the manifold... you can go spend 4-500 dollars on one from a performance place or go by a turbo manifold for around $50 and spend a couple hours making your own... what i do is take your old n/t manifold and cut off the flange the bolts to the cylinder head... then you need to cut all the mounting holes off the turbo manifold cause they get into the way, then place the n/t flange over the turbo flange and weld it together, works like a charm! then grind a little, and weld it again so you know there is no leaks and it wont come apart on you... then you can paint it with a high temp paint, i usually use black! if someone is interested in doin this and doesnt have the tools or anything... i can make them for $100 + parts and shipping both ways...and thats usually about $15 each way... so you send me around $115-120 and both manifolds and it wont be a problem!

when you say both manifolds you mean intake and exhaust right? and also u only do this if your ready to put in the turbo kit and all right? And where am i getting this turbo header from i saw it in that custom turbo lit article

no i both manifolds i mean the both Exhaust manifolds, like the turbo manifold and the n/t manifold!

i'm located in Winona, MN zipcode is 55987

you can find a turbo manifold at a junkyard, ebay, dsmtrader, dsmtuners... there are a lot of places that people sell them!

would 7-10 ps1 get me aound 300 hp thats my goal just 300 hp

haha yea right... if you want 300hp you might as well replace your whole engine like i did! then your looking at atleast 2500-3k in engine upgrades! so its up to you, if you are not good with motor work, you would be better off getting a different car (already turboed) cause my skill with engines made it easier and more affordable for me! labor costs are a bitch!!! so for basic steps on that:

Complete rebuild of motor with upgraded parts
fuel system
turbo


your looking at atleast 4k depending on the deals you get just to hit 300hp!!! its not cheap! and its not easy either... if you have never worked on a motor or you have no clue what most of the things in your engine bay are and what they do, turboing your car is not for you! unless you pay someone for labor to do it... shit for the right price, i would come to your house and do all the work if you want! trust me when i say this... its not a weekend job... its more like a 2-3 week job seeing how you have to get you block bored and honed and your head gone thru to make sure its all good, disassembled, then reassembled with the new parts, then you have to put everything back in the car!

so i can really run my stock ecu? or did i take that wrong.. and for the afc.. what would you recomend as far as brand and were to buy it? and yes if i sound idiodic im new to the whole force feeding thing hah


yes you can use your stock ECU and the AFC... i like Apexi S-AFC II just cause its so much better than the regular S-AFC

well as some of you might have heard i have piston slap in my talon esi. i am wondering on what i should do, both performance and cost effective wise. heres a few options: replace the internals on the engine and buy the turbo kit and install or put a gst engine in there. money is a problem here. either way i have to do something about the engine in the car. i was talkin to my dad about it (im still in college) and he said i should either redo the entire engine or buy a new one. my reasoning is that if i do the entire engine then i am spending a bunch of money for the initial repair plus the turbo kit stuff. meanwhile replacing the engine with a GST engine would seem feasible. i know that i would need a new ECU or computer in the car, but what would u recommend and if i chose to do the engine swap, what else would i need to swap it correctly?

thank you very much
aaron

from what i know swaping to a 4g63 isnt only a engine. im not sure but i think the swap includes a new tranny, and driveline too. the whole setup for non turbo is chrysler and turbos are all mitsu. if i were in your place i would either rebuild the 420a or find a new 420a to put in it. im not sure thats the way it works sum 1 else jump in on that but yeah, i know the swaps are complicated. but whatever u cide to do gl wit it

hey rst.. when u make the turbo manifolds u just switch the header flange right? i was wonderin if you could attach a 420a flange to a header style turbo manifold. for example heres one from ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2477959193&category=33631



and the flange welded to the header style manifold... yea it would work but its a waste of money and personally i think if you port out the stock manifold it would flow way better!!!

If I remember right the 2g bov leaks at somewhere around 10-11 psi, the 1g is way better.

Hey Jake, got a question for ya. How much boost can the 420A handle with internals upgraded, and all supporting mods? This kid is saying that his 420A can handle up to 27 psi, but he is only running 5 (if it can handle 27, I dont understand why he is only running 5). I dont doubt that a properly built 420A can handle 27 but I just wanted to verify what he has been saying.

oh sorry i didnt see someone had posted...

anyways i'm really not sure on how much the motor can handle... so far i have got it to 22psi on race gas with 0 knock... i want to push it more but the clutch is gone on it and an oil line broke, and at the current moment i am working on the GST to get that on the road again cause i just did a tranny swap and a finger from the pressure plate came off and bent the shit out of the clutch fork... so the RST is down for the summer while i am working on make the GST faster and selling it!

as for stock i did 15psi of boost when it blew... i wouldnt push more than 12psi on race gas! i kept mine around 7-10psi for daily driving!

ic. I know he has upgraded internals but I dont think that he has done to much extensively(dont know for sure though). Correct me if I am wrong but wouldnt it take alot for it to handle 27 psi?

well the way i see it is i could probably run 27psi right now but not for long periods of time cause i would kill my motor! he would need serious motor work to run that much boost! thats quite a bit of power he would be putting out and there would be quite a bit of money wrapped up in his car!

well from what you have said I dont see how he could be running that high of boost, because like you said he would be putting out alot of power and my friends watched him get smoked by a 4 door corrolla. I havent got a chance to check out his setup yet. Another thing he has been telling me is that my gst cant be putting out that much power because I am running a MBC instead of a EBC. He says that MBC's leak because they are ball and spring and that EBC's wont because they use solenoids. I dont really know about that being true either being that I have pressure tested the thing up to 25 psi, and it wasnt leaking. When I pointed this out to him, he didnt have anything to say except that they all leak.

what is the difference between an internal/external wastegate, is any better or do they depend on your application, also what is their purpose

Internal wastegate is installed in the turbo set up it self and the external wastegate is a separate unit. The purpose of a wastegate is to regulate the amount of boost...

The internal wastegate is setup that on the exhaust side there is a little valve and the wastegate opens it and lets exhaust gas flow directly out to the exhaust system or it stays closed and the gas is used to charge the air and spin the turbo...Correct me if i am wrong

do i have to do all the mods you said to put a evoIII turbo on my eclipse gs and do i have to do anything to the map sensor


with all those mods you can put the evo 16g on your GS... although you will only be able to run 10psi of boost tops! if you want more boost you must replace everything in your engine... and no you can leave the Map sensor alone... just get a S-AFC to take care of the air/fuel ratio!

where do you run the coolant lines to and from the turbo on a rs?


just to the right of the fill cap there is a piece of rubber tubing that i tapped into when i had water lines... now i dont need them! :p and the return line just tap into the line that goes back into the radiator return hose (right in front of the starter!)

do you think it would be better to put a new gsx engine in my gs
THE 4G63T WONT FIT IN A N/T CAR!!!**
** without a shit load of money

or just buy new pistons rods and cam for my engine becuase i want to run a bigger turbo than the small 16g and i was wondering whats best to do
yes do that but you need cams, springs + retainer, probably new roller rockers, valves, pistons, rods, all new bearings and gaskets for your motor, head studs, all that good shit! have fun...

ok i leave for a weekend and come back to this... WTF guys do i need to close this thread? if your goin to argue or talk shit keep it to the PM's!!! i dont want to read it and there is no reason for it in this thread!




EDIT: ok i just got done deleting 21 posts cause they were off topic or fighting like little girls! its pathetic... STAY ON TOPIC is it that hard, damn! if you reply off topic your post will be deleted... easy as that! if you have any questions or concerns PM me or take it to the OFF TOPIC thread where you DONT NEED TO STAY ON TOPIC!!!

this goes for you BostonJoe... if you want to know how much hp you have this is not the thread!!!

Are you running an oil cooler on your set up? What are you using to keep the engine on the cooler side of things?


yes i am using an oil cooler... but it is not necessary to use one if you dont plan to run a lot of boost!

What about an FMU do I need one? I just got a S-AFC and wonder if thats enough.


yes and no.. do you have a dyno to tune your car on? if no get pocketlogger! if i were you i'd just get it anyways, worth it in the long run!

Hey I have been reading up on this post and I just wanted to know one thing about the stuff you need to boost an RS can I just instead of buying a S-AFC an just take a stock ECU from a GST and splice the wires to hook the harness. If not the I wanna know if there are certain settings you need to set for the S-AFC so I can match up with the demands of the turbo

Sorry this might be dumb, im not planning on Turboing my eclipse until the near future but i read all 10 pages and nobody mentioned this. But ive seen this and i was wondering does it help when you have the pipe that comes out of the intake manafold splits and 1 connects to the intercooler to pick up the turbo boost while the other connects to an intake air filter. I saw that on some cars and i was flipping through a magazine and saw that. I was wondering does that do anything and if you were to do that would you attach the BOV before the split or after?
Sorry if this is a really dumb question.

no you didnt see that... what you saw was the filter then the pipe went to the turbo, then the intercooler pipe went off the turbo into the intercooler then to the intake manifold! the piping that goes from the turbo to the intake manifold has to be air tight... cause it holds pressure!


so no you can not split them cause you will not build pressure!

Ok thanks and just 1 more quick quick question. Could you explain how intercoolers that work with water, work?

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=198037

a nice thread explaining everything about intercoolers

where do you tap the coolant turbo lines and what material do you use to run the lines?


there is a line that runs along the front of the block that i tapped into and all i did for the return is tap into the main pipe... i used steel braided lines

is there any way to boost a 1996 rs eclipe up to over 350hp

EclipseRST's RST has about that much power. I don't know if he will say it's money well spent though, when a stock turbo motor can do 400-500whp. You'll be upgrading practically everything. Are you ready for that?

exactly... well put joe! comparing my GST to my RST, the GST is so much easier to work on, find parts for, and make faster! if your really attached to your car then go for it, and one of the reasons i did it, just to be different from everyone else, besides the car is sentamental to me! if you got the wallet to support the costs, go for it, if not then i would say save your money and buy a GST/GSX!

Hello i just wont to say i am building Eclipse Gs right now and i hope by end of this month i will be done with my car it took me 6 months to do all these things and i am not done.So fair i did these things i spend more money than i expected.

-20G Super Hahn Racecfraft
-Hahn heders
-Vortech FMU
-Apexi Super AFC
-Greddy Front mount intercooler
-Custom aluminum piping (Aem cold air intake & Greddy piping)
-Greddy Blow off valve
-MSD Spark wires
-3" custom down pipe
-3" Apexi N1 Exhaust 120mm tip
-OBX Fuel rail
-Zex inline fuel pump
-OBX intake manifold
-Direct port NOS Wet setup
-N-tercooler NOS
-Purge valve
-JE Pistons and racing rings 20 overbore
-Eagle H-beam rods
-Cranecams turbo setup
-Crane valve springs and titanium retainers
-4 angle valve job, full fort and polish internals exhaust and intake
-1mm oversize valves
-ARP head bolts
-SCE copper head gasket .093" ( I had to make O- rings to put this gasket on)
-AEM short ram intake
-Stage II cluch
-Balanced crank shaft
(new berings seals pumps ect)
-Neuspeed short shifter
-Automerer guages,boost,temp,air/fuel,shift light and tach.
-Koni adjustable shocks
-Eibach springs sportline
-17"wheels nitto 450
-AEM front discs
-Brembo rear discs .......

I cant wait to get this on road, who said that GS sucks my friends have GS-T and they said there is no way that GS can be faster than GST. I need to put this thing on dyno and see the hp. Once youfeel boost ther is no way back. (just for info i had 20g on my car before i fried berings and blowed up my engine 6 months ago,that is the reason i rebilded whole thing)
Keep it safe celo

Anyone in here knows what (parts) i need to tune my bottom block. let me know please! By the way i swapped another 420A in my RS so therefore I have 2 motors! The new motor is in my car and the other old one is in my shop... well thats the one Im thinking about tuning... but slowly scince im not rich like other peoples. Let me know what parts i need for the bottom block. Ill post up some pictures of both of my motor soon.

what i did i took my crank shaft and get it balanced new berings all of them and arp bolts that hold crank shaft case that wil cost you around 400$ + thets for bottom part unles you wont to go with biger pistons new rods when it starts to ad up list dosent stop. But if you gona put turbo on it you need Pistons rods arp hed bolts and good head gasket and you are redy to go but if you dont have money and cant get all these parts its not worted to rebuilt engine every month just wait and get the parts on one side then be done in a week. Shop charged me 1200$for boring out 20 overbore, balancing crankshaft valve job O rings and to deck the head i know the guy so they made me a deal usualy it is more expensive,thats without rest of the parts.

$1200? damn dude at the performence shop wanted to charge me 2500 to do all my head work. But I called up raceeng.com and they are selling a bottom block set w/o the cranks shaft for $1070. and that is for the Wesco pistions and the Crane rods with all the part. and thats going 40 over bore. Do you have to get new sleeves too?

I dont know can you go 40 over it all depense on you engine shape but i think 40 is to much and you cant get new sleeves because its not like honda civic that you can change them. for helliviknow i wish i had alot of money. If I had ,it I would pay someone to put my engine back in lol. I work at grocery stor and I spend all my money on car and tickets. You can get car parts on ebay trough shops they can make you a deals. Regarding head 2500 $ they are smoking crack what are you geting titanium valve springs, 20 cut valve job ??? will this car be street or only strip?

this car is going to be for street. =\ so if 40 over is too much u think 20 in fine? Im planning on running turbo with at least 25psi and under of boost. Thats y i was thinking about going 40 over. so what do you think? I at least want to run more the 10psi of boost lets just put it that way.

.020 over is fine... thats all i have and it has been running for almost 2-1/2 years! .040 over isnt too much, there are people that bore .060 over! although it is a little excessive! anyways your $1200 dollar job isnt that great of a price... i had my block bored, honed, hot tanked, balanced and blue printed for $650. and the expensive part was blue printing it! so do you have any times on your car yet? who did all the work? how many psi were you running on the 20g before you blew the motor and how much do you plan to run now?

.020 over is fine... thats all i have and it has been running for almost 2-1/2 years! .040 over isnt too much, there are people that bore .060 over! although it is a little excessive! anyways your $1200 dollar job isnt that great of a price... i had my block bored, honed, hot tanked, balanced and blue printed for $650. and the expensive part was blue printing it! so do you have any times on your car yet? who did all the work? how many psi were you running on the 20g before you blew the motor and how much do you plan to run now?




Ok so for the money .040 over is fine then right? Here is what Im going to do... I was thinking about building the motor over the winter so I can get it ready for next summer 2005'. Im not that rich so its going to take some time. =]

Bottom Block: .040 over w/ new crank shaft, Wesco Pistion, Crane rods, etc...

next
Head: port & polish completely build the head to the max

next
Intakemani fold: port & polish to the max

So theres my "to list" for the rest of the winter till summer 2005. Building my motor from the bottom up. My old motor was stock and had 160,000 mile on it and what happend was the Rod connection to the bottom block broke off the crankshaft... so Im guessing the block might still be good??? I have pictures if my blown motor but i dont know how to upload it to the gallery on here. Tell me how and ill post it up for yalls to see.

o yeah me and my dad own a Auto Repair Shop. My 96 RS is all stock because I just got the Eclipse like 4 months ago. I dont want to throw a kit on and have a slow car haha. Where did you get your Pistons and rods at RST? So my dad has the hookups on machine shops. So im not worried about the boring out part its just the parts thats going to cost me. =\

Whats Up Guys;/
I Have A 96 Rs Eclipse And I Hear Some Knocking Sound When I Rev Even At About 3000rpm But When Idle, I Don;t Hear It. A Mechanic From Express Oil Change Told Me It Could Be A Rod Knocking But I Need Some Other More Info Or Suggestions On What Could Possible Cause A Knocking Sound In The Engine And What Can Be Done./

i have a t-25 turbo from a gst to install

well guys... any off topic post in this thread will be deleted, i just spent 4 hrs goin thru and deleting all of the stupid shit that people post in here! i'm sick of it... straighten up or dont post. otherwise it will be deleted!

i have a 97 spyder and i just bought a garret t3....is this turbo ok to use on my car?.....i havent started installing it yet...im searching for all the parts before i get started on the project....any advice on turboing a 4g64 would help.

Eclipse rst Before o blow up my engine i was pushing 10 psi but i was able to smoke mustangs 5.0 . I fried my crankshaft berings they melted. And for machine shop what i paid its good deal here in Califonia realy good porting and polishing valve job is around 500$ racing stage. Right now im waiting for my friend to bring his engine lift . I tok his eclipse pictures but i dont know how to put them here so you can see them , he have fast ecilipse GST if you want pic i will send them to you . I hope my car will be runing next week and i will take it to dyno. it bether be fast or i will burn it . Afther all this work it bether be , if not i will sell it for 5G and buy eclipse GST and build it .

well we cant really say wether its compatable with just knowing its a t3.. what are the specs on it? hmm i think a few parts for the spyder might be easier to get ahold of.. i know some of the stuff is similar to the gst anyone know if a 4g63 turbo manifold will bolt upto a 4g64? its basically gonna be the same deal as turboing a 420a... im pretty sure its gonna take the same basic steps and parts list as far as a turbo, manifold, boost controller, fuel delivery, oil or water lines or both, all the small details ect...

i have a 97 spyder and i just bought a garret t3....is this turbo ok to use on my car?.....i havent started installing it yet...im searching for all the parts before i get started on the project....any advice on turboing a 4g64 would help.

before you turbo your car you should take that single cam head off and put a dual cam head on, that will increase the power of your car a lot, then if you want to turbo it, go right ahead, anything from a 4g63 will bolt right up, so basically if you could find a 1st or 2nd gen motor, just take all the parts off that! the manifold, head, turbo... all that good stuff! just remember to keep the boost down seeing you have n/t pistons and the compression is a little higher!

eclipse rst can you put valve springs from GST nad put them on GS ?? how much horse power do you have and what did you do to yours engine what trim is yours turbo and what are yours setings on S-AFC high and low so i can set up mine.
thanks