stock prelude vs stock type r

I know that a stock prelude comes with 205 hp not sure about how much hp a type r has, which won is faster if they were to race.

type r what?

Acura integra type r, also the rsx type s

hey weren't you the guy in Let's Get Technical that said your car could smoke a 13.9 sec crx?

anyways, here's what I think. the RSX-S would probably win because it is about 200 lbs lighter, 200 hp, 142 ft-lb of torque.

quarter mile calculator estimates 14.7 for RSX-S, 15.2 for prelude VTEC

stock for stock, RSX-S

Acura Integra Type R
1.8L, 195hp @ 8000RPM

Acura RSX Type S
2.0L, 200hp @ 7400RPM

Honda Prelude Type S
2.2L, 220hp @ 7200RPM

Honda S2000
2.0L 240hp @ 8300RPM

2003 Acura RSX Type-S 6.8 15.40
1995 Honda Prelude VTEC 6.7 15.10

thats what I found out, the prelude numbers are accurate because it was rated from car and driver

Stock for stock, my vote is for the ITR.

its a drivers race. (I know first hand)

Thats what i kinda figured too, but if the drivers were exactly the same in skill, the prelude would have an edge

itr should beat a 95 prelude fairly easily

dude...there's no way the RSX WEIGHTS LIGHER THEN A PRELUDE 4th GEN!!!....VTEC Prelude would atleast keep up with either of those car's.....RSX OR TYPE R

and a Type S Lude does not REV at 7200 I belive it's a lot higher....Ace's...ur such a Prelude HATER!!! get ur self...a stupuid GSR!! already....(and then race a real VTEC PRELUDE MODEL) cause i'm starting to think u swap ur H22 wrong cause...either u didn't have ur VTEC right or u must be the Prelude driver to think of ur lude not beening so fast u know what it is...those stock rims u got...get some VOLK Racing '17 Alum...and take off ur a/c...

and a Type S Lude does not REV at 7200 I belive it's a lot higher....Ace's...ur such a Prelude HATER!!! get ur self...a stupuid GSR!! already....(and then race a real VTEC PRELUDE MODEL) cause i'm starting to think u swap ur H22 wrong...either u didn't have ur VTEC swap or u must be the worst Prelude driver to think of ur lude not beening so fast u know what it is...those stock rims u got...get some VOLK Racing '17 Alum...and take off ur a/c...cause when ur on a Prelude ur always COOL!!

by the way if a Stock RSX type S 2.0 200 hp can take a stock GSR Teg 170 hp which i'm sure weights a lot more then a Teg (the RSX) y won't a Prelude 4th or 5th Gen VTEC take a GSR stock??? HA!!!.....got u stupid Teg Fan's!!! Ace's by the way please sell ur LUDE...it's cleary it'll be very for both ur "the Lude" and u

please don't flame my vocab. so i type fast and don't read my post before i post them!!

and a Type S Lude does not REV at 7200 I belive it's a lot higher....Ace's...ur such a Prelude HATER!!! get ur self...a stupuid GSR!! already....(and then race a real VTEC PRELUDE MODEL) cause i'm starting to think u swap ur H22 wrong...either u didn't have ur VTEC swap or u must be the worst Prelude driver to think of ur lude not beening so fast u know what it is...those stock rims u got...get some VOLK Racing '17 Alum...and take off ur a/c...cause when ur on a Prelude ur always COOL!!

I'm a prelude hater. I hate to break it to you man, but preludes are slow as hell. I have been in fast cars; I grew up with them. The first car I ever drove everyday was a 300hp Jaguar XJ-S, and the torque and hp coming out of that would smoke the prelude. Plus the thing could run up to about 150 mph, and do it all day. Can your VTEC prelude do 150 all day? I'd sell my lude tomorrow if it was the right price.

It's funny how you say "race a real VTEC PRELUDE MODEL" and then tell him to take out the AC and get aftermarket lightweight rims. AC is a luxury that most "real" preludes came with.

My prelude has served me well. It brought me into modifying cars, learning about tweaking suspension, and allowed me to meet some really cool people (forums), but I am severely ready to move on to something bigger, badder and faster. Go ride in a fast car and you'll know what I'm talking about.

*If I had a boosted prelude, I wouldn't be bitching.

With all due respect, SBallerk2.. you are a complete dumbass. There's more to acceleration than horsepower, and why don't you do some research before you spout some incoherent garbage.

First of all, the type S Prelude's redline *is* 7200, so says Honda themselves: http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/prelude/2000/grade_data/s.html. I trust Honda more than I do you.

Second of all, the stock Prelude rims were designed to be balanced for the car's suspension. Messing with that messes with the geometry of the car... and frankly, bigger isn't always better. If you feel there's something you need to compensate with, don't do it with rim size.

The RSX weighs around 2760 lbs. Our "beloved Prelude" weighs nearly 3000. You do the math.

With that said, Prelewd has pretty much tidied up what I was going to say. The Honda Prelude is not the end all to all cars, and having a sense of modesty goes a long ways when you are comparing cars. I have driven the STi's and 300zx's and have long since yearned for that kind of power on my Prelude. There's a bigger world out there.

I don't want a GSR, or even an ITR. But I would give up my Prelude for a VR4 in a heartbeat.

dude...go to a race track. preludes are NOTHING. i own one, i love it. but for the love of god, they haven't been made since 2001. i know moore's law doesn't apply to cars, but cars do advance over the years and ludes just don't cut it anymore unless your boosting, even then, they're still no match for other boosted cars.

Second of all, the stock Prelude rims were designed to be balanced for the car's suspension. Messing with that messes with the geometry of the car... and frankly, bigger isn't always better. If you feel there's something you need to compensate with, don't do it with rim size.


Just to play devil's advocate.. I believe there was a certain amount of ride quality that factored into the decision to use 15" rims.. I do agree, however, that bigger isn't always better. 16"ers are perfect for preludes IMO.

ok this thread has officially convinced me not to get another lude, ill try nissan next i guess

*just kidding i love my lude

First of all, the type S Prelude's redline *is* 7200, so says Honda themselves: http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/prelude/2000/grade_data/s.html. I trust Honda more than I do you.
I am not 100% sure but doesn´t that mean that the Type-S produces 220hp at 7.200rpm and not that the redline starts there?!?
I can´t read most of the article because of the language.... :rolleyes:

....I feel sorry for ur.....Prelude's...they most be like "the prelude" fuck here comes this dump azz that doesn't even know how to make me go fast...dude....stock cars!!! always suck!!! u guys r so stupid.....drive ur stock cars then drive a suit up LUDE and u'll c what i'm taking about a 300ZX suck!! I beating 2 before....nuff said...f all u prelude haters!! and the RSX does not weight 2700 and the 4th gen does not weight 3000 pounds ace's fuck off...

dude that RSX most atleast weight 3000 pounds...looks like a mini-mini van just the like the Si

and about the Type S i wouldn't be taking if I'm u "Ace's" u don't shit u talk like u do but u really don't u didn't even know about the Type S...i bet u didn't even know that the type s was a 5th gen and not a 4th gen....and that there is not one but two f-motors for the prelude....yep that's right both a 2.2's one is the single cam which we all know and the other one is a f22b twin cam...yep twin cam that comes a long on a Jap. Accord 94-97 but is a direct fit...into the 4th gen...ha, and don't start with that shit that there isn't a 2.2 twin cam engine for the 4th gen prelude 4th gen that isn't the h23 2.3 do ur homework!!!

and about the Jag. shit it better be a lot faster then a Prelude if it cost 3 times much then an MSRP Prelude but if u ask me...i'll take the Prelude and spent the rest of the money left on the prelude to suit it up and i'll be at least 3 times faster then that stupid jag will ever me...and u'll still have a lot more money on my pocket and a show car that will be faster then that jag will ever be since it's a Jag. it's already on it's limits....bet u didn't know that Jag's....mercedes etc. can't be modified more then the factory already did while a Honda/toyota etc. looks to fulfill the consumer with bargain's and they must also follow strict safety rules since much more people buy honda's then a Jag. therefor honda has to limit there car's to much greater degree....which limits them from producing much Type R' taking out the prelude typse S (which we could only dream of owning and trust me if there was a U.S. Type S Lude we wouldn't even be talking about teg's or GST's etc. beating lude's) yeah i'm sure there's been some people who have swapped Type S's but i could of sold u an H22 and said it was a type S's...besides a model is always better suited then the swap....(ace's this applies to u) so yeah... let's race

Jag. MSRP $45,000
2001 5th Gen Type SH about $18,000
so i got about 27,000 dollars left to built my engine to it's fulliest...ha...!!! i could turbo,nos it etc.

built it up to around atleast 500HP!! making it twice ass fast as ur Jag. plus i would still have about half the money from the 27,000 still on my pocket!!! so who has the faster,better,showroom car??? yeah!!! eat ur words

Actually Veetec, I think the site's trying to say that peak torque is reached at 6.5k, and the redline that allows HP to exceed torque is at 7.2k. Where Horsepower = (Torque x RPM)/5252. I can't read Japanese either :biggrin:

Prelewd, I was moreso talking about the wheel offset than the wheel diameter. Since I haven't tried larger wheels yet, I'll have to go with what you say.

SBallerk2, you have not beaten (and cannot beat) the 300zx TT. Go look up the curb weight for the RSX before you start saying anything. Civics for example look like they are as heavy as Preludes, but they are several hundred pounds lighter. You can't assess a car's weight on how it "looks". Weigh your damn car.

That f22b is not made for a Prelude. It sucks either way. No one wants one in their car.

Are you talking about the Type S or Type SH? Jesus. The ATTS on the Type SH isn't all it's cracked up to be, and many SH owners disable it to reach greater power levels. It was made to be a good handler, not to go really fast on a drag strip. You can tell the S-h22a against a regular h22a from the design of its pistons. Besides, you can exceed the horsepower on a Type S by putting in stronger pistons in a standard h22a.

We aren't here to say the Prelude sucks. But we do accept our limitations, and so should you. Unless you're sporting some high end custom turbocharger setup with a full lower end engine buildup and complete engine management system... I'd advise you being less cocky and getting educated on cars before you open your damn mouth.

Actually Veetec, I think the site's trying to say that peak torque is reached at 6.5k, and the redline that allows HP to exceed torque is at 7.2k. Where Horsepower = (Torque x RPM)/5252. I can't read Japanese either :biggrin:
After a second look at your link this seems to be right to me! :smile:

But that would mean that the redline starts somewhere above 7.200rpm, wouldn´t it!?

dude...there's no way the RSX WEIGHTS LIGHER THEN A PRELUDE 4th GEN!!!....VTEC Prelude would atleast keep up with either of those car's.....RSX OR TYPE R

Instead of making an uneducated comment like this, why don't you do some research and provide evidence that what you are saying is true? I could say "Hey there is no way a Corvette Z06 is faster than a Ford escort" But it does not make it true! Can you see what I am getting at here? If not what I am tring to tell you and anybody else who posts stupid replies like this, is that without any kind of facts in a reply of this nature you look like a complete moron.:screwy:

I love my lude, i love integras, i love rsx's, i love hondas. Unfortunately honda motors have one major problem. They have us stuck running 14's and 15's for the rest of our lives, some lucky ones may be able to dip into the 13's if they're lucky, but most of us are content with that, i don't care what anyone else has to say. Sure...you could put some major money into your honda and have it running 600whp of beast pushing you into the 9's and 10's. But, WHY? Unless you're set out to own the world's fastest honda, get yourself a ferrari for christ sakes.

Hondas are slow. Have a nice day.

Did I mention i love hondas?

I own a prelude and i love it. I wanna mod it, engine and exterior. I could make it look beautiful and be pretty quick and be happy about it. People see my car more than they race my car so if i have a tricked out lude im gonna get a lot more attention that if i have a stock 350 IMO. but damn would i love my lude to be as fast or as pretty as a supra
PS i know this post is stupid and completly off subject but i dont care

I'd rather have a Lotus Elise or Ferrari Testarossa than a Prelude SH that's twice as fast as either of them...

I love my lude, i love integras, i love rsx's, i love hondas. Unfortunately honda motors have one major problem. They have us stuck running 14's and 15's for the rest of our lives, some lucky ones may be able to dip into the 13's if they're lucky, but most of us are content with that, i don't care what anyone else has to say. Sure...you could put some major money into your honda and have it running 600whp of beast pushing you into the 9's and 10's. But, WHY? Unless you're set out to own the world's fastest honda, get yourself a ferrari for christ sakes.

Hondas are slow. Have a nice day.

Did I mention i love hondas?

I know plenty of honda's here in Atlanta that are in the 11 and 12's and 3 that are in the 10's. They are daily drivers too. You just have to know how to get the power out of a honda motor. Also yea with basic mods you can expect not to see any better than 14's, but hey you still retain great gas mileage and your car will still run for alot more miles.


Oh and Ferrari's don't run 10' or 9's they don't even run 11's and 12's they run mostlt in the 13's. They were not built for drag racing, take them to the twisties and you will see what they were made for. And that is also where honda's have an advantage IMHO. So what if you can run a 10 sec 1320 how about the mountain runs? How about auto x etc? There is more to racing than drag racing.

I can't understand half the gibberish you are saying Sballer, but if you can beat a 300zx 2+2.. good for you. I would still take one over any regular production honda short of an S2000 or NSX. Not to mention the 300zxTT can push around 400hp with minimal modification. (I can't wait to get mine!)

It's going to be tough to part with my honda, but it's not really worth investing the money in. You could go dump your 27000 dollars into your prelude to make it 500hp, and still nobody will pay anything over 10,000 for the car.

By the way, the 1979 jaguar I was talking about only set us back maybe.. 7 grand. Roughly the price of a used VTEC prelude. Where's your extra money now?

This thread is hilarious...our "beloved Prelude" lol

What Prelude comes 205hp stock?

Never heard or seen of that. Not even the Japan versions.

Sballer: Attempting to decipher your crass coding leaves pounding ones own head with a hammer more desirable. How do you sleep at night.

This thread is hilarious...our "beloved Prelude" lol

What Prelude comes 205hp stock?

Never heard or seen of that. Not even the Japan versions.

Sballer: Attempting to decipher your crass coding leaves pounding ones own head with a hammer more desirable. How do you sleep at night.

I have to agree with whtteg, the S2k for ex., it's a commom misconception that it was built for drag. it isnt, all its peak power is in the upper rpm band take the thing through some twisties then you'll know its true purpose

Thats exactly hｏｗ i feel about the whole Import vs. Domestic thing. So what if your Muscle car can go faster then me in s STRAIGHTＬＩＮＥ．lets battle it out on the Togue thats where the real drivng skill comes in. i know there's a great deal of skill required for drag but i think Mountian runs, Canyon runs, togue is just much more challenging and more difficult to master.

BTW- when i say togue i dont mean drift

err wrong quote anyways..... Whtteg u ever hear of the JDM TYPE-S Prelude?

http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_34&products_id=60

*janet Reno i mean, sorry its like 3:00 am over here cant sleep

I have to agree with whtteg, the S2k for ex., it's a commom misconception that it was built for drag. it isnt, all its peak power is in the upper rpm band take the thing through some twisties then you'll know its true purpose

Thats exactly hｏｗ i feel about the whole Import vs. Domestic thing. So what if your Muscle car can go faster then me in s STRAIGHTＬＩＮＥ．lets battle it out on the Togue thats where the real drivng skill comes in. i know there's a great deal of skill required for drag but i think Mountian runs, Canyon runs, togue is just much more challenging and more difficult to master.

BTW- when i say togue i dont mean drift

We are talking about import vs. import. Togue means freshwater fish, so if you want to battle it out Iron Chef style...

As for MOUNTAIN RUNS: I live on the west coast at the foothills of some of the highest, most jagged mountains in the US aside from Alaska and Colorado. Not many of the roads on them are very curvy. Granted, I haven't been on all of them, but most aren't. There are some windy roads in the mountains in california, but they are being heavily enforced by the local law enforcement because of idiots going up there thinking they know how to drive a car. Ugh.. we are in the US, not Japan.

I don't mean to bust your balls 510, but I just felt the need to get that out. I do agree that driving through blind corners at high speeds, finding your threshholds, and balancing your car with the right brake/gas input is more challenging & fun than drag racing, but do not discount it as something that any Joe can do, especially when you get in high horsepower cars. Turning consistant low times requires skill.

I believe that the ITR will take the prelude in any aspect mentioned above. Handling (except maybe the SH stock for stock) or drag.

EDIT: 510.. there's an edit button. :smile:

I don't care...I know my Lude is fast....and well that's all that really matters cause my LUDE would take a GSR, 300ZX (which arent that great drive one and u'll c there not much faster then most car's for beeing rear drive v6 all that b/s dude i took a f-150 SUPERCHARGED!!! HARLEY DAvis what makes u think i wouldn't take a 300zx??),stangs,etc. my Lude is FAST!!!..(maybe u guys r sorry azz drivers u know...ur driving skills r the most powerful thing u could ever put on ur car!!)BOTTOM LINE...if ur lude is stock and slow well that's ur problem not my's...

one more thing ....guys know how to build ur car's...like take off ur a/c spare tire etc...if ur a true racer then u won't have a stock car while u race over car's cause u'll get badly BURN!! how u think there's Hatchback's taking on VIPERS!! yes VIPERS!!! i'll tell u this the hatch isn't stock!!

My dear friend... I'm probably putting more ponies to the pavement then you've ever had with your Prelude. No, I don't just have i/h/e :wink: . Let's hear all your 300zxTT-killing mods.

Would you rather have that Civic HB, or would you rather have a Viper?

Tuning a car is tough as shit and requires alot of patience and technical knowhow. Especially with something like Hondata or the AEM EMS. I'm just saying that watching a car do drag isn't nearly as fun as watching a car running through twisties. I guess I prefer my car to be a well rounded union of the two.

one more thing ....guys know how to build ur car's...like take off ur a/c spare tire etc...if ur a true racer then u won't have a stock car while u race over car's cause u'll get badly BURN!! how u think there's Hatchback's taking on VIPERS!! yes VIPERS!!! i'll tell u this the hatch isn't stock!!

Maybe if my slow ass lude was a racecar.. So you beat a 4644 lb 340 hp truck that has a bunch of harley logos on it.. :loser: Any stock prelude VTEC will take that, maybe not off the launch, but def. in the quarter.

Nobody said preludes didn't have potential. All cars have potential. We were talking about a stock ITR vs stock Prelude VTEC. It's no wonder why people go around saying that these ricers think their hondas are the fastest cars ever.

/yourself.

I don't care...I know my Lude is fast....and well that's all that really matters cause my LUDE would take a GSR, 300ZX (which arent that great drive one and u'll c there not much faster then most car's for beeing rear drive v6 all that b/s dude i took a f-150 SUPERCHARGED!!! HARLEY DAvis what makes u think i wouldn't take a 300zx??),stangs,etc. my Lude is FAST!!!..(maybe u guys r sorry azz drivers u know...ur driving skills r the most powerful thing u could ever put on ur car!!)BOTTOM LINE...if ur lude is stock and slow well that's ur problem not my's...
one more thing ....guys know how to build ur car's...like take off ur a/c spare tire etc...if ur a true racer then u won't have a stock car while u race over car's cause u'll get badly BURN!! how u think there's Hatchback's taking on VIPERS!! yes VIPERS!!! i'll tell u this the hatch isn't stock!!

Dude I really hope you don't expect anybody to take one word seriously and I say word because there is not one complete sentence in you incoherent gibberish. I am not even going to go any further with this because your posts reflect your creditability. :rolleyes:

We are talking about import vs. import. Togue means freshwater fish, so if you want to battle it out Iron Chef style...

As for MOUNTAIN RUNS: I live on the west coast at the foothills of some of the highest, most jagged mountains in the US aside from Alaska and Colorado. Not many of the roads on them are very curvy. Granted, I haven't been on all of them, but most aren't. There are some windy roads in the mountains in california, but they are being heavily enforced by the local law enforcement because of idiots going up there thinking they know how to drive a car. Ugh.. we are in the US, not Japan.

I don't mean to bust your balls 510, but I just felt the need to get that out. I do agree that driving through blind corners at high speeds, finding your threshholds, and balancing your car with the right brake/gas input is more challenging & fun than drag racing, but do not discount it as something that any Joe can do, especially when you get in high horsepower cars. Turning consistant low times requires skill.

I believe that the ITR will take the prelude in any aspect mentioned above. Handling (except maybe the SH stock for stock) or drag.

EDIT: 510.. there's an edit button. :smile:


OMG that edit button has made life so much easier thanks for the heads up, as for drag thing requiring skill to do, I 100% agree you may have overlooked that i did say Drag require's skill, as for the whole mountain driving thing, differnt people have different opinions same can be said about people living in differnt locations, and i happen to live in a part of So Cal thats filled with Twisties, long curvy roads, and 180 deg. turns. i respect your opinion but i think it doesnt apply to everyone

I wouldn't happen to be one of those "idiots" your talking about right? only time i drive canyons/mountains is when its an organized event. :smile:

I wouldn't happen to be one of those "idiots" your talking about right? only time i drive canyons/mountains is when its an organized event. :smile:

No. I think the idiots are the ones that falsely claim to be good drivers. I, for the record, do not claim to be a good driver. Michael Shumacher is a good driver.

I don't know what you meant by opinion, but if you want one, I think the word Togue is one of those JDM words that people say because they watch too much Best Motoring. :2cents:

Again, no flammage implied 510. :smile:

no flammage taken :smile:

The race is all in the driver HP helps put if you mis shift its all over but if i had to say one car i say prelude

....I feel sorry for ur.....Prelude's...they most be like "the prelude" fuck here comes this dump azz that doesn't even know how to make me go fast...dude....stock cars!!! always suck!!! u guys r so stupid.....drive ur stock cars then drive a suit up LUDE and u'll c what i'm taking about a 300ZX suck!! I beating 2 before....nuff said...f all u prelude haters!! and the RSX does not weight 2700 and the 4th gen does not weight 3000 pounds ace's fuck off...

check out boi, to see what real 300zx is
http://cherrypicker.tripod.com/turb...30dett/id8.html

The itr is the fastest, then the rsx-s then the prelude, assuming the same driver plays with those cars.

you also might consider the amount of torque the prelude puts out.
type R has approx. 130 ft/lb @7500
RXS S has approx. 141 ft/lb @ 6000
97-01 lude has 156 ft/lb @ 5250
92-96 lude has 158 ft/lb @ 5500

my 2 cents

you also might consider the amount of torque the prelude puts out.
type R has approx. 130 ft/lb @7500
RXS S has approx. 141 ft/lb @ 6000
97-01 lude has 156 ft/lb @ 5250
92-96 lude has 158 ft/lb @ 5500

my 2 cents

considering the 300 lbs weight difference as well. the ITR eats the prelude

there's no way u would catch up to a f-150 if he takes off on u....it's a SUPERCHARGED ENGINE!!!...that thing could weight ton's and still be fast ass hell!!!! beating a f-150 harley davis is someyhing BIG....trust me those things r fast and there's no way u'll catch up to it....u need a go launch!!!

Hahhaha...I beat a Harley Davidson truck on the 1/4 mile with a stock 1999 Civic SI. He was catching up, but he couldnt...I have it on video people have seen it, dont care if its a fuc*ing supercharged v8 monster, I eat it with a 1.6 naturally aspirated engine...fun times.

ha tell u what i'm Lude VTEC would take ur stupid Si...ha!!!since I only taken about half a dozen...it's funny cause they don't know my LUDE is VTEC and untill they c my rear azz!!!"DOHC VTEC"that's FUN TIMES!!! Si r kool tho...i'll give u style points...

oh one more thing....who come u Si and GSR fans think u can take a h22 Prelude??? i don't get it

yeah sure...u may think my Lude weights more then ur car...but heck...maybe a stock lude those but who said i was running stock....???(HINT: master ur Weight/to Power...so easy and CHEAP!!) besides....the 3 stock heavy weight honda vtec cars...Si,GSR,h22

Si 160hp 128 torque
GSR 170hp around 138 torque
4th gen h22 190hp 158torque

yeah keep wishing for my hp and torque!!!
HATERS!!!

How do you live with yourself

oh one more thing....who come u Si and GSR fans think u can take a h22 Prelude??? i don't get it

yeah sure...u may think my Lude weights more then ur car...but heck...maybe a stock lude those but who said i was running stock....???(HINT: master ur Weight/to Power...so easy and CHEAP!!) besides....the 3 stock heavy weight honda vtec cars...Si,GSR,h22

Si 160hp 128 torque
GSR 170hp around 138 torque
4th gen h22 190hp 158torque

yeah keep wishing for my hp and torque!!!
HATERS!!!

Until you show some slips that your car is this and that then you are full of BS as far as I am conserned. Also the GSR people think the can take a Vtec prelude b/c they probably have!:loser:

''''SBallerk2 '''''
you beat civic SI and GSR that's nothings news
ford F150 you bring that crap out to race? if drag i will smoke that crap
even with automatic SI Lude stock or the SI civic ... if running straight 2-5 miles you can't even see my back hahhaah start at first i already gone and f 150 max speed is about 100 mph , SI can run 130 mph no modify. my Lude modify si can run 135 mph max . ...

someday you will find someone built his Lude SI with H23 DHOC vtec or H23 built Pistons. They will smoke the heck out of you and you don't know what going on. Why H22 DHOC vtec loose to prelude SI. by the way last moth there was a 92 SI h23 built pistons sell on ebay . i wish you could see or test out what i'm talking about ....

Sballer... ive been watching your posts.... dude... Ive yet to see someone on this board be so full of ignorance and stupidity... What mods make your slow ass lude take a 14.6 second truck? Yes.. thats about what a harley f-150 runs...300zxtt??LOL Been smoking to much, I bet you dont even know where the engine is in one. As far as ppl thinking they can take ludes with si's and rsx's... thats what they think.. What I have seen... is lightly modded 99 si's spank modded WEEtec ludes. _Its the same with The type s.. simply beating your prelude. I dont wish for your power and torque... My n/a 140 hp 86 Rx-7 has taken ludes. ANd when im done with it now... most of the hondas in my area wont even get a look from me... (but for now im stuck walking). Please someone shut that kid up.

''Banditkiller'' you was right about ''SBallerk2'' that boi just saying trash. your 86 rx 7 taken on ludes
i think u smoke the basic S prelude . i myself own a SI it totally different from basic S and SI vtec is more rough. if you got RX 7 93 up and smoke prelude then i have nothing to say man. but, your is 86 n/a and turbo version at this time i think is about 190 Hp or little less.
90-92 crankle 200 hp turbo