eternity

Whenever someone asks me what my phobia is, I always say acrophobia (heights). Its basically true. I'm just afraid of one more thing, eternity.

Do you think eternity exists? Does the universe (or something beyond) not have an end? I mean, you could last a hundred thousand trillion years and that wouldn't even be a fraction of eternity. I believe this universe will at one day cease to exist, possibly collapse unto itself. But whats beyond this universe..

Think about this and it will answer your question young grasshopper: Try to think about everything not exisiting, and whats left?

Do I think eternity exist? Yes.
Do I think the universe (or something beyond) not have an end? Yes.

What's beyond the universe? I would say what I believe but I would be accused of turning this into a religious thread.

What's beyond the universe? I would say what I believe but I would be accused of turning this into a religious thread.
Sharing your beliefs is fine, thats what this forum is before. Pressuring others into your beliefs and dismissing all others is wrong.

The universe is a product of the fundamental laws of space and time. that is it exists because of the principals of physics. There cannot be anything beyond the universe because the universe encompasses everything.
It has to, hence the term 'universal'

so the universe is a product of which law or laws?
eternity has to exist, it would be immpossible to imagine time not being present, but eventually everything in this universe will reach equlibrium, and at that point everything and everyone will be dead, but thats gonna take very very long.

but for all of the people who don't believe that there is a god, it would not make sense for you to believe in any sort of eternity, because how could something eternal have a begining?

and if it did, what was it like before that? that will make your brain fry...

Anyway i heard a great analogy to eternity. It really makes it sound like a long time:

"Every square inch of North America is covered with sand from coast to coast. The pile is so high you couldnt see the top, imagine that. Then a bird comes along, and takes a single grain of sand, and flies it all the way to Asia. Then the bird has to fly all the way back, and get another, single, grain of sand. As soo as the bird moves the entire pile of sand across the ocean to Asia, one second of eternity has passed by."

Crazy huh?

my brain is going to pop.......stop the questions!

"Every square inch of North America is covered with sand from coast to coast. The pile is so high you couldnt see the top, imagine that. Then a bird comes along, and takes a single grain of sand, and flies it all the way to Asia. Then the bird has to fly all the way back, and get another, single, grain of sand. As soo as the bird moves the entire pile of sand across the ocean to Asia, one second of eternity has passed by."

Well, thats not even a second. Eternity is forever. You can't split forever into segments. Thats the scary part.

no, thats the boring part

whatever will i do when im in eternity? il be bored to death, execpt i cant die

shiz...

deep man...

lol

yeah like on those movies where someone gets granted a wish and they wish to live forever, i got to thinkin that that would suck ass, because eventuall the earth would end, and you would be floating out in space not being able to die, man how bad would that suck

yeah like on those movies where someone gets granted a wish and they wish to live forever, i got to thinkin that that would suck ass, because eventuall the earth would end, and you would be floating out in space not being able to die, man how bad would that suck
Yeah.. I remember reading this one lame children horror story about a boy who wishes for eternal life, but then he gets knocked unconcious in a construction site where concrete is poured over him, encasing him practically forever. Even if he was broken free over time, his body would consist of broken fragments.

That was a childrens story? Being confined in cement for eternity freaks me out. Think what it did to the kids reading it.

Yeah.. it was a pretty twisted book. Another story was of a girl who foretold the future and saw a plane they were going to take on vacation crash. Well, she persuades her parents to take an RV instead of a plane. In the end, their RV is driving down the freeway at night and bam, they get nailed by the very same crashing plane.

But nothing is compared to Stephen Gamell's drawings in the Scary Stories trilogy.

tell me more stories from that book, i love to be freaked out!

Hm, I don't really know much more. Just look in the childrens section for cheesy scary story books. I think those two stories are from a book called Techno Fear or something.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0064401707/qid=1079404157/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2_xs_books_i2_xgl14/102-3260691-5903336?v=glance&s=books

is an excellent read (be sure to check out all 3 of the books). Some of the scariest drawings I've seen in my life. Especially in the third installment.

Have you ever noticed that nothing we reach out to gives us complete, definitive satisfaction? We always want more. And both wanting and achieving take time.

Time, I was told when I was ten, is an ordered series of "nows." When we talk about what "eternity" is, we are not simply inquiring about the end of the "line" of "nows" but the source of every "now." Eternity must, by definition, contain every individual moment. It must be an "eternal now" which sums up all of time and yet still exceeds time.

Whatever the Infinite and Eternal is, it is nothing like us. When I strive to philosophize as a purely rational man, I cannot think of any substance (individual existing thing) which is an unqualified infinity and yet is not God.

In geometry, a ray starts at a point and extends infinitely in one direction. But that infinity can be infinitely increased if the ray extends in the opposite direction as well, forming a line. And the addition of a third point forms an infinite two-dimensional plane. Add a point outside the plane, and we are dealing with three-dimensional space. Beyond the third dimension, we can imagine additional forces and dimensions, each extending infinity infinitely. We begin to discern a pattern that infinity is always greater than itself.

As near as I can calculate, any infinity which we propose which exceeds all other infinities and defies further increase (except within itself, as constituent of its infinity) will be identical with what we say of "God." He is "that than which no greater can be concieved," as Peter Abelard said. My intention is not to force religion on anyone. I merely ask if anyone can conceive of an infinity larger than God, and if so, how is that new proposal not identical with God?

All disagreements will be received with respect, and heard carefully.
Parmenides3

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