300ZX vs Supra MkIV

I am looking to buy a sports car for my wife and am trying to decide between the 300zx and the Supra. I am looking at around the 1990 - 1996 models. I am not interested in which one is the fastest or has the best acceleration. I am more concerned with which one is the more reliable and cheaper to maintain. Also would the N/A be preferable to the Turbo and is auto or manual is best?

the MkIV supra without a doubt, its six speed is amond the best and the engine is among the strongest built - it can take over 900Hp on stock internals

plus is more exclusive, and IMO it looks better


and get the turbo for sure

a nissan or a toyota is pretty win-win. if you get the nissan though get a manual. nissan auto tranny's are kinda crappy. nissan is kinda expensive to have maintenance done. especially if they charge $75/hour like my nissan place. i don't know much about inline 6's so i'd go with the nissan. i'm on my 5th nissan car and all have reached well over 100K with no major work, except for my new maxima. the most money i had to sink into my car was on my 95 maxima when i had to have the 1-3-5 gears and synchros replaced in my tranny cuz the guy who owned it before me learned 5 speed on the car. it cost me 1300 bucks and over half of it was labor. if you're mechanically inclined though that shouldn't be a big deal.

toyota's are also known for their reliablility.

supra all the way, the stock internals/transmission can hold massive amounts of hp so you know it wont crap out on you during every day driving. also, i would recommend getting the automatic transmission as the supras have one of the best available and its less of a hassle to drive. i like manuals, but only in the "weekend" car.

also, get a '93+ model just for the looks. :smokin:

The Supra is better looking in my opinion, and is much more reliable. Manual vs. Auto should really be up to your wife, i suggest auto if she'll be in alot of traffic. The Supra will also be more expensive, they've been pretty popular and have high resale value, unlike the 300zx.

lol, trust me, no way in hell a supra can handle 900hp in stock internals...it can surely handle 600hp, and 700hp not for long, but 900hp???????WTF is wrong with you! I'd pick the nissan 300z just because i love nissan, but they are both about the same if you compare the same year and all. actually i was reading that in the early 90's the 300zx owned the supra in most aspects.

yes, the supra can hold a lot of hp, but so can the vg30de (300zx engine). but it looks like the thread starter doesnt need a car for power. and since nissan and toyota are reliable, it is more of what do you like better as in looks and amneities. i would go with the 300zx just cuz i like them much more than a supra (i am getting a 300zx).

for looks, the 300zx looks better!

lol, trust me, no way in hell a supra can handle 900hp in stock internals...it can surely handle 600hp, and 700hp not for long, but 900hp???????WTF is wrong with you! I'd pick the nissan 300z just because i love nissan, but they are both about the same if you compare the same year and all. actually i was reading that in the early 90's the 300zx owned the supra in most aspects.

sorry man but your wrong, i spoke to the guy over the internet who holds the record 949hp on stock internals, his car is silver. your right most supra's don't do that but its possible cause he did it.

lol, trust me, no way in hell a supra can handle 900hp in stock internals...it can surely handle 600hp, and 700hp not for long, but 900hp???????WTF is wrong with you! I'd pick the nissan 300z just because i love nissan, but they are both about the same if you compare the same year and all. actually i was reading that in the early 90's the 300zx owned the supra in most aspects.

WTF is wrong with me??? You are calling me out? Are you kidding me?:eek7:




how about YOU do some research before opening your mouth and swearing at me

here is the proof:

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=391315

here are some running ~850 on stock bottom (keep in mind that those are at the wheels - which translates at well over 900 at the crank)
http://www.400gt.com/articles/misc/SupraDyno.htm

SCC had an article on another supra running well over 900 on stock bottom, plus there was one actually on sale on ebay

Is that enough proof for you?

The Supra is buy far and away the most reliable and easy to repair car.

Even the most devoted 300zx owner, if thier honest, will admit that they are not the most reliable of cars once they start to age a little, and they are known as one of the worst cars to try and work one. Parts are expensive, and often hard to source, (even here in NZ, the home of the Jap import spots car) and the cars design makes them very time consuming to work on, everything is tucked up behind something else, and is always very hard to get to. That goes for anything in the interior as well as the engine. The Auto boxs are also very prone to failure, and again very expensive to fix.


The Supra has easily the strongest gearbox, auto or manual, and its engine as stated above is almost indestructable. Its also the easiest to fix, and get access to, and parts are more readily avliable.

The Nissan is possibly the better speced, and more advanced car, (at least it is in Japan, and here in NZ, I have no idea about the US market), but it comes at the cost of the issues stated above.
Its certianly the more exotic of the two.

But if reliablity and ease of use are more important and how fast it is, and how many buttons it has, then a N/A Auto Supra is deffintly the better car.

WTF is wrong with me??? You are calling me out? Are you kidding me?:eek7:




how about YOU do some research before opening your mouth and swearing at me

here is the proof:

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=391315

here are some running ~850 on stock bottom (keep in mind that those are at the wheels - which translates at well over 900 at the crank)
http://www.400gt.com/articles/misc/SupraDyno.htm

SCC had an article on another supra running well over 900 on stock bottom, plus there was one actually on sale on ebay

Is that enough proof for you?
of course it can handle 900hp in stock internals! but im talkin about will it really hold that much after redlining it a few times, or racing it often. im sure alot of cars can hold 900hp, but will they really hold it for a while after abusing it?? that was my first point, sorry for not being clear but i would like to hear of someone runnin a 1000hp supra on stock internals? i dont think so...

lol, trust me, no way in hell a supra can handle 900hp in stock internals...it can surely handle 600hp, and 700hp not for long, but 900hp???????WTF is wrong with you!


of course it can handle 900hp in stock internals!


No comment.

No comment.
did you even read the whole post? i bet i can put 400hp on my little GA16DE, it will hold them for a bit, but after a bit of revvin itll blow up!*kaboom* am i clear now!

Hey, I don't think bloon cares about horsepower anyways.

If you truly only care about reliability, I would say go with an N/A of the Supra. Turbocharged vehicles require more maintenance, and if you don't give it the attention it needs, it will let you know by putting a hole through your wallet.

did you even read the whole post? i bet i can put 400hp on my little GA16DE, it will hold them for a bit, but after a bit of revvin itll blow up!*kaboom* am i clear now!


no you were very clear. In your first post you claimed very clearly and vehemently I might add that is imposible for a supra to acheive 900 hp on stock internals. You claimed 700 to be the max for a short time.


then after the proof I posted you changed your statement and claimed that 900hp in acheivable for a short time before blowing up. so all of a sudden you raised the bar from 700 to 900.

and btw those 900hp supras last more than a few seconds, they are even fairly reliable


So how about you act like a man and admit you were wrong especially after your little outburst on my account in the first post.

i know why he won't cause he got :owned:

I am looking to buy a sports car for my wife and am trying to decide between the 300zx and the Supra. I am looking at around the 1990 - 1996 models. I am not interested in which one is the fastest or has the best acceleration. I am more concerned with which one is the more reliable and cheaper to maintain. Also would the N/A be preferable to the Turbo and is auto or manual is best?


Thank you to all the people who replied to this post (even if some did lose track of the thread). My wife and I have bought a 1994 Supra 5 speed N/A with 98,000Km (60,000 miles) on the clock. It looks fantastic, handles like a dream and even with only 220 BHP it still has great performance.

Im glad you managed to get the advice you wanted, and I do hope we were right :)

Enjoy the new car, if you get some pics of it make a post in the Supra forum :cool:

Why not forget both and get a Mazda RX 7??? LOL.

Ok in all seriousness, I'm not a fan of Toyota at all, but I will agree that their engineering of the Supra is top-notch. The engine is a twin turbo unit, so it will use more fuel, but its a reliable unit and when driven correctly, can prove to be as economical as you want it.
Toyota has excellent build quality, so you need not worry about the rest.

As for the Nissan, I cannot comment much, as even though I'm a fan of the car, I don't have a clue to its faults. Merits are that it looks awesome, is powerful and its a Nissan, which means its reliable. There are loyalists to both sides who will argue one merit over the other, but ultimately the decision will lie with you.
If you're planning to surprise your wife, you might want to look into stuff like practicality as well. You're gonna need to consider her preferences.

Like I said earlier, you could look into a RX7 while you're at it. Or if you don't like that, a Mitsubishi 3000GT.

Thank you to all the people who replied to this post (even if some did lose track of the thread). My wife and I have bought a 1994 Supra 5 speed N/A with 98,000Km (60,000 miles) on the clock. It looks fantastic, handles like a dream and even with only 220 BHP it still has great performance.

Congrats on the purchase. I'm sure the car will serve you well.. :)

it's pretty good car.it is good reliable.



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