High Performance Tires

I am just about getting my Acura Integra that was stolen in October running again. One of the last things I need to get are wheels/tires. I have decided on some 17" wheels. I am now deciding what kind of tire to put on them. I would prefer a low profile, high performance tire, mainly for summer driving with occasional rain(wet traction is not a huge concern, however). I would prefer them to be Z rated. Anybody have any suggestions? I've looked at some Pirelli's that are very nice, along with some Nitto's. I'd prefer to keep the cost at least somewhat reasonable. Anybody have any suggestions, let me know.

yokohama parada spec II's, Falken Azenis, toyo proxes t1s

Parada Spec 2s are not consider high performance tires. They are "tuner" tires.

My list:
Falken Azenis
Kumho MX
Kumho 712
Toyo Proxes T1S
Yokohama ES100
Hankook (forget number)

Parada Spec 2s are not consider high performance tires. They are "tuner" tires.

My list:
Falken Azenis
Kumho MX
Kumho 712
Toyo Proxes T1S
Yokohama ES100
Hankook (forget number)

The Parada Spec-2 is conisdered a tuner tire? Can't say I am suprised, lol. It doesn't perform as well as the high performance tires you listed? Out of curiousity, what exactly is the "difference" performance wise between "tuner" and "hi-performance?" I am guessing "tuner" would be more like the new "affordable" toyo's that came out...decent grip, etc when cold, but after 1 run around the track, they have overheated and loose traction, basically in need of cool down time. I am guessing that would be your "typical tuner" tire, whereas, as we know, a good high performance tire wouldn't have that problem so quickly...am I on the right track?

well he want's a tire that can perform and my friend claims that his paradas performed way better than the es100's. sorry if i'm not down with the terminology civicsiracer

He means the Parada is made for people who like the look of an agressive tire but has none of the qualities of a serious high performance tire.

The Parada was designed around the style of the tread. The original tire was so bad at evacuating water that that they made a second revision to make it safer.

Don't buy a tire designed around looks, it is the only thing that adheres you to the pavement.

I would agree in 17"s your cheapest and best would be the Kumhos MX as well as the Yoko ES100. The Azenis RS, are one of the best for dry grip, but treadwear is worse and water evacuation abilty gets worse with age.

Can I get your opinions? Although I don't need a new set yet, I am starting to look for what I want my next set of tires to be. It does rain alot here in the winter and spring. Basically, I need wet and dry traction. Since it hardly snows, I am not worried about that. I don't want to sacrifice a lot dry traction for wet traction, I am looking for a tire with very good wet and dry traction. I have heard and read good things about two tires in my research: the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 ($133/tire) and the BF Goodrich G-Force T/A KDW 2 ($139/tire). Have any of you had any exprience with either of these, also, if there are any other tires that will perform comperable (or better) that you'd recommend? I know that the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 is a max performance summer tire, as was the Kuhmo Ecsta MX you recommended above ($93/tire). The BF Goodrich G-Force T/A KDW 2 is techincally a "ultra high performace summer tire," though I heard better things about the goodyear and BF goodrich tire. The Kuhmo didn't sound bad for the price, but from what I heard, the other two seemed to be worth the extra $$ in my opinion. Any thoughts/info on anything I posted would be appericated.

I have the EAGLE F1 GS-D3's on our RSX-s 225/45/ZR17 on 17X7.5 inch rims. These are awesome tires in either wet or dry conditions. They tend to get a little hard in temps below 40* though. I love them on the RSX-s. Cornering is astounding it's almost like the car is on rails. I caught myself doing 80mph in a rainstorm that ordinarily I wouldn't have gone past 60. They aren't too noisy, just make sure they are on the right way, they are directional and you must order right and left side tires.

low profile, high performance tire, mainly for summer driving with occasional rain(wet traction is not a huge concern, however).

= toyo proxes t1-s

sticks well in summer and very good value for money

I'm very partial to Yokohama ES100's That's what I roll with on my car right now, and they handle superbly IMO. If they made them in a "15 size, I'd spring for a set of Falken Azenis ST115's, as I hear they are supposed to have pretty darn good grip. I'd go Azenis Sports, but I'm kinda hesitant on what their wet handling capabilities are... My ES100's handle very well in the wet/rain however.

i like my dunlop fm910s a bunch sure there loud but they dig in like a mofo and cheap for what they are. I'm moving up to falken alzens though probbly

i didnt read all of the posts but falken azenis are hands down the best for autocrossing. and as another note, the letter rating (z rated) is for top speed, not necessarily how well it performs. the treadwear has a lot to do with how it grabs. treadwear on a azeni is 200 i think (correct me if i'm wrong i dunno tires that well). azenis are the stickiest tires you can get without getting a drag slick. also... dont get 17s if you want performance. get a nice 15" rim and put some 205/50r15s on it, that'll be your best all around performer.

Kumho Ecsta Supra 712's are by far the best in my opinion. The traction is great in the rain also. $86 on whalentire.com, check it out

i didnt read all of the posts but falken azenis are hands down the best for autocrossing. and as another note, the letter rating (z rated) is for top speed, not necessarily how well it performs. the treadwear has a lot to do with how it grabs. treadwear on a azeni is 200 i think (correct me if i'm wrong i dunno tires that well). azenis are the stickiest tires you can get without getting a drag slick. also... dont get 17s if you want performance. get a nice 15" rim and put some 205/50r15s on it, that'll be your best all around performer.

Not true. One of the best auto-X tires is thwe Kumho Victorracers, and the Kumho MX. Alose possibly even better (though a DOT legal R-compound tire) is the Yokohama/Advan A-032R. It has a tread wear of 60! That's right, it's only rated to last some 8k miles when NOT driven hard. :eek:

Kumho Ecsta Supra 712's are by far the best in my opinion. The traction is great in the rain also. $86 on whalentire.com, check it out

Of course personal opinion is what matters. But you're not part of the exception here, which you should be glad of. The problem with the 712's is that their QC on those tires varies so much, it's scary. Countless times I've ehard of people that end up with a "bad" set of 712's and then replace them with new ones of the same that perform COMPLETELY different as far as handling is concerned. I was following a friend once through a canyon, when a set of 712's failed on him, and sent up into the side of a dirt hill, that tweaked the frame of his CRX. Basically the tires lost their grip FAR sooner than they should have to the given situation, of which he's pushed his car even harder that what he did when the mishap happened. The 712's seem to be really the only tire I've heard of this happening to, where each set you get will be totally different from the previous set.

wow, ive never had a problem with my 712's. I also dont push my car to its limits tho so maybe thats why. Thanks fo rthe info tho, i hope mine continue to hold up on me.

I have the EAGLE F1 GS-D3's on our RSX-s 225/45/ZR17 on 17X7.5 inch rims. These are awesome tires in either wet or dry conditions. They tend to get a little hard in temps below 40* though. I love them on the RSX-s. Cornering is astounding it's almost like the car is on rails. I caught myself doing 80mph in a rainstorm that ordinarily I wouldn't have gone past 60. They aren't too noisy, just make sure they are on the right way, they are directional and you must order right and left side tires.

Hey, thanks for the opinion on the Eagle F1 GS-D3's. Anyone else have any experince with this tire or the BF Goodrich G-Force T/A KDW 2? Again, thanks for the opinion on that tire, I appericate it.

Man, to me the parada's are a dam good tire and the cornering is of the chart. But now that I switch to the G-force I must say that the G's are slightly better. I put both tires to the test and also one I my friends has the paradas on his civic and he also notice the difference so there u have it. But like some man people say it's Just one oppinion :smokin:
......G-force...you know you want them :naughty:

Man, to me the parada's are a dam good tire and the cornering is of the chart. But now that I switch to the G-force I must say that the G's are slightly better. I put both tires to the test and also one I my friends has the paradas on his civic and he also notice the difference so there u have it. But like some man people say it's Just one oppinion :smokin:
......G-force...you know you want them :naughty:

FYI, Paradas have NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING on ES100's, Azenis Sports, and Azenis ST-115's Paradas were designed with one thing in mind, and that's looks. Yeah they handle better than many, but not anywhere near the best that's DOT street legal.

so silvery2kcivic. do you think the es100's would be better than the azenis sports? or close? cuz i want to get some azenis sports but the 200 treadwear just isn't enough. i noticed that the es100's had a rating of 280 and the traction was AA compared to the azenis sport A

so silvery2kcivic. do you think the es100's would be better than the azenis sports? or close? cuz i want to get some azenis sports but the 200 treadwear just isn't enough. i noticed that the es100's had a rating of 280 and the traction was AA compared to the azenis sport A

I gather you read the Super Street article on this. ;) Re-read it carefully. It explains that on the tread ratings, some of the tires listed have been around before the "AA" rating was added on, and so they will only have the "A" ratring even if they are as good or BETTER than "AA" rated tires. I had wondered about that myself when reading it, then had to go back and re-read. It's on the first page talking about tires.

With that said... next thing to look at is the tread wear number. Generally and typically the lower the number, the better it's grip is going to be, so do the math on that. The Azenis Sports are a much grippier tire than the ES100s, but that's not to say that the ES's are slouches. The ES100 are one of the grippiest typical wear life tires around, that can actually handle wet weather better than decent. I auto-X on my set if that tells you anything about them... If 200 wear isn't enough for you, then get the ES100's. If maximum grip is what favors you more, then you really can't get any grippier of a tire DOT street legal tire than the Azenis sports, unless you opt for the 60 teard wear Advan A032R's wnich are also street legal, and considered about the grippiest street legal tire you can get. ;) I ALMOST got some of those till I saw their price, and then their life span. Lucky if you get 10,000 miles out of them. The Azenis should last you about 20k - 25k if driven on just normal D/D type driving. Once you start taking lots of quick corners with them, expect to see that lifespan drop of course.