inexpensive performance chips

www.efficientexperts.com/virtualstores/superautoparts

this place i guess buys mugen chips and the like and decodes them and makes their own. they range from $35-40. my bro bought one for his crx and it gave him 6+ hp when he tested it with his g-tech.

i got one for my 95 civic ex (d16z6) with ecu p28. it was a bitch installing it caus it came with absolutely no instructions. i called my bro to see how he did his. on integra and crx ecu's the performance chip replaces an already existing chip in the ecu, all he had to do was take out the factory stock chip and put in the performance one and he was all set. not so for the civic ecu. i had no idea what to do, there was a place on the circut board where it would fit but there was no chip already there. so i found a guy on ebay that sells similar chips and he sent me directions on the install. i had to put in the chip into the empty spot on the ecu and then add this other integrated circut chip and a resistor and a wire in another place. but stupid me didn't read the directions correctly and took out another chip i needed and broke it in the process. my car didn't run at all and i'm S.O.L thinking i now need to buy a new ecu but i found on radioshack.com they have the chip i destroyed and the other one i needed that didnt come with the performance chip. after 3 days of my car not working i got the chips and put em in and everything worked ok. thank god!

i don't know how much hp i got from all this mess but i can deffinately feel more power. probably got btw 3-6+ hp. v-tec kicks in now at 5000 rpm too, so that is way cool. it also has redline at 9200 i think but im not gonna find out. so anyway $35 a good investment but you gotta know what you are doing or you'll fuck up your ecu and need a new one.

if any of you decide to get a civic chip you can hit me up for the instructions.

peace

Originally posted by Quetzolcotl
www.efficientexperts.com/virtualstores/superautoparts

it also has redline at 92000 i think but im not gonna find out. so anyway $35 a good investment but you gotta know what you are doing or you'll fuck up your ecu and need a new one.


HOLY SHIET :eek: a 92,000 rpm redline? gosh damn! Tahts oine helluva chip there!!... heh, i know thats a typo.. The only cars I know of that Gain a LOT form chips are Vw's and Audis, them things gain like 20+hp from a chip...

Originally posted by Quetzolcotl
www.efficientexperts.com/virtualstores/superautoparts

this place i guess buys mugen chips and the like and decodes them and makes their own. they range from $35-40. my bro bought one for his crx and it gave him 6+ hp when he tested it with his g-tech.

i got one for my 95 civic ex (d16z6) with ecu p28. it was a bitch installing it caus it came with absolutely no instructions. i called my bro to see how he did his. on integra and crx ecu's the performance chip replaces an already existing chip in the ecu, all he had to do was take out the factory stock chip and put in the performance one and he was all set. not so for the civic ecu. i had no idea what to do, there was a place on the circut board where it would fit but there was no chip already there. so i found a guy on ebay that sells similar chips and he sent me directions on the install. i had to put in the chip into the empty spot on the ecu and then add this other integrated circut chip and a resistor and a wire in another place. but stupid me didn't read the directions correctly and took out another chip i needed and broke it in the process. my car didn't run at all and i'm S.O.L thinking i now need to buy a new ecu but i found on radioshack.com they have the chip i destroyed and the other one i needed that didnt come with the performance chip. after 3 days of my car not working i got the chips and put em in and everything worked ok. thank god!

i don't know how much hp i got from all this mess but i can deffinately feel more power. probably got btw 3-6+ hp. v-tec kicks in now at 5000 rpm too, so that is way cool. it also has redline at 92000 i think but im not gonna find out. so anyway $35 a good investment but you gotta know what you are doing or you'll fuck up your ecu and need a new one.

if any of you decide to get a civic chip you can hit me up for the instructions.

peace

Civics, INtegras, and CRX having different ECUs eh? hahaha riiiiight...

Who buys and sells Mugen ECUs for $35-40??!?!/! Wow...VTEC engagement at 5000rpm! Amazing - how does that help? Redline? at 9200rpm? (fix typo) Redline is the maximum recommended rev area for u to rev your motor - no way u can change that with a chip.

Anyone gotta BS flag?

i think he meant 9,200 rpm and by then in any civic ever you will need a totally different valvetrain. sorry but 14,000 plus a cheap chip doesnt get you near an s2000.......period. bro you better have a set of toda c's in a b16a with a balanced engine and some real good finger crossing if you ever hope to not blow your motor up at that rpm. have you gotten different cams, valve springs and retainers? that p28 ecu...how is it doing with knock control and secondary intake runner support? whats your a/f ratio like? how about the ignition timing? oh and how did you get your maps onto a blank chip.................oh by the way how are your injectors doing at about 110% duty? whats your fuel pressure like?

LoL...Here you go

http://www.automotiveforums.com/kris/kris/+junk/cluepon.jpg

i think it does not change the redline but must dis-engage the rev limiter or something. no i havent done any big mods to go with this chip like diff valves or springs or any of that stuff. i'm just saying: $35 for 3-6 hp? Yes, please! where else are you gonna get hp for that cheap?

Originally posted by Quetzolcotl
i think it does not change the redline but must dis-engage the rev limiter or something

Have you read the cluepon there buddy? It's a hint. The revlimiter is put in by honda to protect you, the user, from fucking up your engine. Removing it with a stock valvetrain will get you about as much power as a type r sticker.

why do you think that i'm trying to rev my car up that high? i'm not stupid. the chip just allows you to do so if you want. it's not like the extra hp doesnt kick in until 7000+ rpm, its there all the time. the chip works fine on a stock engine, but if you have re-built the motor to take it the chip will allow you to rev that high.

Actually having your rev limiter raised on a stock B16 isn't that bad. The horsepower fall-off is much more gradual past its peak power point than the horsepower gain when downshifting. What I mean is if you rev a little higher, your still making more power than if you were to downshift and be at 5600 rpm's. But like you pointed out a new valvetrain is needed for constant higher-rpm's. A chip is almost absolutely useless on a stock engine. Their not needed until you get your head built and fuel system upgraded along with a multitude of other things. And your 3-6 horsepower comes from the new fuel map most likely. Theres no other variables to change to add horsepower within your "chip". Therefore you might'd as well buy an SAFC and change it yourself. And yeah, go ahead and use that coupon anytime you want :)

Did I see someone ask for a bullshit flag?? :devil:

Originally posted by SiRedge
Did I see someone ask for a bullshit flag?? :devil:

that is the new school flag.. here's old school for everyones enjoyment...
http://kutztown.bizland.com/postal/bsflag.gif

Originally posted by i like naked girls
i think he meant 9,200 rpm and by then in any civic ever you will need a totally different valvetrain. sorry but 14,000 plus a cheap chip doesnt get you near an s2000.......period. bro you better have a set of toda c's in a b16a with a balanced engine and some real good finger crossing if you ever hope to not blow your motor up at that rpm. have you gotten different cams, valve springs and retainers? that p28 ecu...how is it doing with knock control and secondary intake runner support? whats your a/f ratio like? how about the ignition timing? oh and how did you get your maps onto a blank chip.................oh by the way how are your injectors doing at about 110% duty? whats your fuel pressure like?

100% agreed.. aint no chip gonna do shit on a 1.6 n/a unless you got a ton more money in it than any of us wanna know

that link you gave us only has parts that are 275 and up. what were you talking about exactly>?

go to the chips section on the website.

you guys can shit on me all you like about it not doing me any good on a stock engine, the bottom line for me is my car has more power. i can feel it, you can tell me it wont make a difference all you want but i know it does.

compared to the price breakdown of dollars to hp this is more cost effective than an intake, header, cam, sprocket or about anything else. if there is something else out there that will give me this kind of hp gain for $35 I sure would like to know about it.

i'm not trying to sound like i know what the specifics are for what the chip does and does not do but it gives you more power and having v'tec kick in at 5000 instead of 5500 rpm is pretty cool and almost worth it alone.

Originally posted by Quetzolcotl
i can feel it, you can tell me it wont make a difference all you want but i know it does.

compared to the price breakdown of dollars to hp this is more cost effective than an intake, header, cam, sprocket or about anything else. if there is something else out there that will give me this kind of hp gain for $35 I sure would like to know about it.


wait.. if this dyno proven power or just your own personal butt dyno?


besides, who would buy a mugen chip $1500 and reprogram it and sell it for $35.. i mean.. c'mon!

oh.. and g-tech said my stock 160hp Si was 173hp, so you see what confidence I have in a g-tech for hp rating

from what i've heard a chip alone won't give you nearly the gain in a honda/acura as it will in other cars... my friend has a 92 Z24 3.1l and he put a chip in.. got decent gains, more than I would in my civic if i added a chip

Originally posted by CivSiGuy
besides, who would buy a mugen chip $1500 and reprogram it and sell it for $35.. i mean.. c'mon!

oh.. and g-tech said my stock 160hp Si was 173hp, so you see what confidence I have in a g-tech for hp rating


1. there's a lot of tuners out there who have the Mugen program by either getting the software on disk, or by gettin the Mugen chip and loading it onto disk themselves. they then upload the program onto a radio shack EEPROM (like any other chip) and there ya go... a Mugen programmed chip for cheap that truly works the same as what you get from Mugen.

2. make sure you have the correct vehicle weight plus driver input into the GTech meter for a proper calculation. also set it to level before starting. a lot of people i know used the vehicle curb weight instead of gross vehicle weight and got bad readings. so far i have yet to have a problem with a GTech meter in 3 different vehicles when properly used.

Originally posted by drift


So far i have yet to have a problem with a GTech meter in 3 different vehicles when properly used.

This is what really cheeses me off actually - people bashing parts or it could be anything I suppose - when they either haven't used it the way it's supposed to be, or, even worse, bleating about something they really have had no first hand experience in. For instance - how many ppl have you heard bleating about the S2000 not having much torque? How many of those have driven one?!? :mad:

Originally posted by drift
so far i have yet to have a problem with a GTech meter in 3 different vehicles when properly used.

Do you feel that it accurately measures 1/4 mile times and speed?

Hey man can you hook me up with the instructions???
thx

Originally posted by delsolguy


Do you feel that it accurately measures 1/4 mile times and speed?


yeah.

the one i used has been off by .1 second at the most when compared to timeslips at the local track.

as for speed, it's quite accurate. within 2-3mph on trap speeds.

Originally posted by Phat_Si
Hey man can you hook me up with the instructions???
thx


it's my friend's GTech meter... and we never use the instructions. i dunno if he still has them.

No, I was talking to the guy who originated the thread. I need the instructions on how to put in the chip!!! Thx anyway tho.

- Phat_Si