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Project X
03-04-2004, 10:25 PM
I got circuit pro coilovers on my Accord and they are cranked all the way down. The problem is that I cant raise it up. The whole sleeve turns when I try to turn the perch to raise it up. Is there any way I can get my perches unstuck so I can raise my car up. I tried WD40 didnt work. Even if I have to take it to a shop to get it done, I will. Anyone with suggestions can also email me at [email protected] I am going on an 8hr road trip so it has to come up.

SilverY2KCivic
03-04-2004, 10:48 PM
Yet another reason why coilover sleeves are no good... :2cents:

BullShifter
03-05-2004, 01:28 AM
Yet another reason why coilover sleeves are no good... :2cents:

:werd:
My best advice would be to soak & keep soaking the collars in penatrating oil for 24hrs or more. WD40 is about the worst product you could use. Use a pipe wrench to hold the collars while using the spanner wrench to adjust collar. If the threads are very rusted you may want to remove each strut assy. & clean threads with a wire brush & then soak for 24hrs or more. Once the collar is free coat the entire threaded surface with anti seize, run collar up & down, and keep on applying as needed. Depending on the climate(salt) it's a good idea to move the collars monthly or every 7500 miles with tire rotation & brake service.
Don't forget when the ride height is changed an alignment is needed.

Dezoris
03-06-2004, 03:10 PM
You guys are hilarious, threaded body shocks have just as many problems with threads stripped or too course to allow the collars or perches to move up or down.

Better yet, most coilover kits with the exceptions of the Comptech kits don't come with nylon washers to sit between the spring and perch so the spring. Most people who have the kits without notice shreading and binding on the bottoms of the springs which make it 10x harder to raise and lower.

In bad weather threaded body shocks threads corode and seize up regularly without thick coats of lithium grease.

bmc2213
05-29-2004, 12:46 AM
does any one have another answer to how to get your perches unstuck and keep them from sticking?> looks like an arguement to me and not advice

SilverY2KCivic
05-29-2004, 04:34 AM
You guys are hilarious, threaded body shocks have just as many problems with threads stripped or too course to allow the collars or perches to move up or down.

Better yet, most coilover kits with the exceptions of the Comptech kits don't come with nylon washers to sit between the spring and perch so the spring. Most people who have the kits without notice shreading and binding on the bottoms of the springs which make it 10x harder to raise and lower.

In bad weather threaded body shocks threads corode and seize up regularly without thick coats of lithium grease.

That's why you keep them clean and learn how to maintain them, and maybe even get some rust preventative coating to put on the sleeves once you have the desired height set on them. ;)

I'm in CA, so I don't have to worry about weather much with my Teins. I also have a can of that "Rust Proof" stuff that they make for their coilovers to coat them with after adjusting so that rust won't manifest itself on the threading of the shock. So far I haven't had to use it, and I periodically clean the threads of any dust/dirt as well as the rest of the shock and spring units.

Raising the collars is hard, because the higher you go, the more force you are applying to the spring as it compresses. The more you compress it by raising the height of the collor, then the more difficult it will be to turn. Simple solution is to remove the entire strut unit, and adjust them OFF of the car if they won't work otherwise.

Again I'll say, this is why true coilovers are better. Unlike a sleeve, with a true full coilover, the threaded shock body is BOLTED to the frame and suspension arms, where with a coilover sleeve, it's free standing and WILL turn with enough force, and a threaded shock WILL not rotate the entire unit as you turn the perch collars to adjust height. That's what I was getting at Dezoris. ;)

bmc2213
05-30-2004, 07:44 PM
hi thanks for the reply i have heard tein makes a setup for street and strip while maintaining good drivability is this truie? also i really like the look of your car i have the same body style in black would you be willing to tell me all that you have done?

96Civic_Coupe
05-30-2004, 08:41 PM
yea, that car is sick.

bmc2213
05-31-2004, 12:33 AM
yeah im trying to make a nice clean car like that i dont wwant attention from the cops here. just need a fast ride with some style... and a b16b lol

Icantgetno
05-31-2004, 08:54 AM
It just kills me that both of them suggested sleeved coil overs for my ride :(

SilverY2KCivic
05-31-2004, 02:52 PM
hi thanks for the reply i have heard tein makes a setup for street and strip while maintaining good drivability is this truie? also i really like the look of your car i have the same body style in black would you be willing to tell me all that you have done?

Street yes, strip no. Tein don't make strip oriented kits really, just track oriented in terms of road racing, but nothing for drag. Coilovers are plain and simple a waste of money if your main style of racing will be drag.

On the street the Teins have excellent driveability. You can (with the SS and higher models) tune the shock dampening so that it feels almost as soft as the stock suspension setup, or you can tune then so that they ride damn near N1 stiffness. I got a 2kg spring upgrade on my Tein SS and they still are very streetable, even with the 559lbs./ft (10kg) front springs, and 336lbs./ft (6kg) rear springs. I just got some bright blue Megan Racing rear lower control arms last week, and the rear end feels even MORE stiffer now. Next week I'm adding a Megan Racing front H-brace to the suspension, and then not too long from now, I'll be adding some SRR spherical bearings for the steering pinion which will make my steering quicker and more responsive.

Anyways for a full rundown of what I have, click here (http://www.hondashowoff.com/profile.php?id=2444). :cool:

SilverY2KCivic
05-31-2004, 02:56 PM
It just kills me that both of them suggested sleeved coil overs for my ride :(

I dunno if you're refering to me, but I NEVER suggest any sleeve coilovers other than Skunk2's or Ground Controls. Also keep in mind that sticking perch collars can happen on true coilovers as well. It's all dependent on where you live, and what sorts of elements your car and suspension is exposed to. If your's are sticking, then maybe once you get them loosened, put some sort of lube or grease between where the 2 collars lock together, to make them easier to get undone in the future. I'm not sure if this is advisable though, so email the manufacture of your sleeves before you go doing this.

Icantgetno
05-31-2004, 09:24 PM
Im still trying to figure out a solid spring solution to my problem, I have shitty coil overs now and want to stay away from them.

SilverY2KCivic
06-01-2004, 03:07 AM
Im still trying to figure out a solid spring solution to my problem, I have shitty coil overs now and want to stay away from them.

I know you've seen other threads about what springs are good, on here.

Eibach, Neuspeed, Tein S. Tech, and H&R are all the ones I'd recommend. All should be able to be had for around $200 if not less.

bmc2213
06-01-2004, 10:52 AM
hey Y2k those t
ein ss sound sweet wheres a good place to get them? also how do the match up with spoons dampers?
also can you add the edfc to any set of tein coilover shocks?

Beastiek2
06-01-2004, 04:36 PM
i just bought my tein SS kit for 900$, 940$ shipped
i thought that was pretty sweet from this site they came in a week and i love them 4 clicks front 0 clicks back

http://www.rxecret7.com/teinhondass.html

BullShifter
06-01-2004, 10:56 PM
It just kills me that both of them suggested sleeved coil overs for my ride :(

Who?



No you can not add EDFC to unajustable struts - Tein Basic

SilverY2KCivic
06-02-2004, 12:05 AM
hey Y2k those t
ein ss sound sweet wheres a good place to get them? also how do the match up with spoons dampers?
also can you add the edfc to any set of tein coilover shocks?

Lots of places have Tein...
www.groupbuycenter.com
www.jhpusa.com
I think www.inlinefour.com has them, and the list can go on and on.

I dunno what you mean by match up to the Spoons, but I couldn't tell you how they compare if that's what you meant. I'm pretty sure the Teins will handle better as haven't seen a set of Mugen or Spoon coilovers or dampeners than compare to some of the higher end Tein stuff that costs the same, like the Tein HA, or RS kits. Even the Tein SS has more adjustability. Isn't the Soppn dampeners only 5 or 8 settings for the shocks? No Tein that's adjustable has LESS than 16 dampening settings.

EDFC only work with dampening adjustable Tein kits. And not just any of them either, they won't work with the SS kit for Civics, but the Tein FLEX for Civics can have EDFC though. I've been exploring into how to get EDFC to work with SS on Civics. The issue with SS and EDFC is that there isn't enough space clearance between the hood cross beams and the EDFC motor units. The rears have no issues, but you have to use all 4 motors together for EDFC to work. That's I've been told at least buy the local Tein dealer that I got my SS coilovers from 2 years ago.

bmc2213
06-02-2004, 12:42 AM
i have checked out the ss coilovers and they look like exactly what i need for my style of driving and the adjustability it amazing going to buy them i think. i think my cf hood may actually let the motors for the edfc fit but if you find out a way to fit them underneath my oem style cf hood that would be great. the cowl on my new one seems to atract cops. also what front lip is that Y2k? mine is a spoon style but it dont look like yours i thought it would. boo hoo spent alot on it too

SilverY2KCivic
06-02-2004, 02:41 AM
i have checked out the ss coilovers and they look like exactly what i need for my style of driving and the adjustability it amazing going to buy them i think. i think my cf hood may actually let the motors for the edfc fit but if you find out a way to fit them underneath my oem style cf hood that would be great. the cowl on my new one seems to atract cops. also what front lip is that Y2k? mine is a spoon style but it dont look like yours i thought it would. boo hoo spent alot on it too

Chances are, unless you put spacers on your hood (tacky IMO) then the EDFC won't fit, esp. if your hood is OEM style.

The lip I have is CTR style. Only cost me $50 too. ;) But it's similar to the '99-'00 Si lip, except it's a little more aggressive looking, and flares out slightly more.

bmc2213
06-03-2004, 01:04 AM
CTR ok cool yeah it is more agressive it looks tight on your car. also is there a rear that goes with? my muffler sticks out a little too much and im trying to compensate. it seems the 97 and 98 civics mine is 98 have bumpers that curve in at the bottom in the back as oppased to out which makes for a wierd stuck out mufler effect. w

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