s13 vs. vw gti

yesterday i raced my friends vw golf gti, he has basically the same mods as me, exhaust, slammed, and intake. we launch from a stoplight, and in about 5 seconds, i cant even read his license plate. that thing is fuckin fast as hell. i still think my car is better cuz of the rear wheel drive, and its a 240, :grinyes: , but then again i want a gti cuz its faster with less mods. i have no cash, and cant even afford my car tho, so no gti for me. o well, just thought id mention this little story

oh man, one of my coaches has a golf gti. Also, the s13 is quicker than jetta's.

I can't believe you just compared a 240sx to a faggot waggon shit box VW.

I'm definately no expert, I don't even own a 240, but most automotive theory is same between cars so I say ask this:

In your signature you list a 3" exhaust. From what I've seen this is usually used for a turbo setup. You don't list a turbo. This large exhaust reduces your exhaust velocity killing your low end. If I had to guess that is why you lost.

I'm not flaming, just giving an opinion on your situation. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this too, I don't like talking about things I don't know and would rather be corrected then laughed at.

Shohn

in a couple monhts i want the finance the VOLKS R32

I'm definately no expert, I don't even own a 240, but most automotive theory is same between cars so I say ask this:

In your signature you list a 3" exhaust. From what I've seen this is usually used for a turbo setup. You don't list a turbo. This large exhaust reduces your exhaust velocity killing your low end. If I had to guess that is why you lost.

I'm not flaming, just giving an opinion on your situation. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this too, I don't like talking about things I don't know and would rather be corrected then laughed at.

Shohn

Ive seen a dyno graph on a guys N/A KA and he had a 3" exhaust and saw a 12 hp increase.So IMO thats not why he lost

Well, it was just theory anyway. I know there are cases where engines will lose power. On the 240SX, though, my statement was just a suggestion. Thanks for pointing that out.

No prob, i wasnt flamin you or anything

GTI's are quick, it's turboed and lightweight so it can launch. A stock 240 cannot beat a stock GTI, simple as that. And that exhaust system isn't going to help much either against that 1.8T

Yes The 3" Is Bad For The Ka Down Low But Great Up Top. Yeah He Saw 12hp More But I'm Sure It Was Way Later In The Rpm Range Than Normal. The Wide Open Exhaust Kills All Backpressure Which Reduces Exhaust Velocity Which Slows The Car Down Because It Can't Effectivily Breathe Until The Motor Is In The Higher Rpm Range.

The 1.8t Is Untouchable By A 240 Until You Get Some F/i Under The Hood, This Is Because Of Their Lightweight, Short Gearing, Turbo Power, Weight Balance And Superior Drivetrain. The Downfall Of The Gti Is The Suspension, You Put That On A Road Course And You'll Be Out Powering It Around Almost Every Turn.

nope its been provena 3" exhaust makes more power even on a N/a 240sx.


maybe he lost because...........

he raced a 180hp turbo car with I/E on a FORCED INDUCTION CAR

versus a 155hp with I/E hmmmm whos going to win?

doesn't take a rocket scientist

Who Are You Saying No Too.... Me? If You Are I Said Yeah You Can Make More Power But With A Na It Moves The Powerband Later Slowing Down Acceleration Which Dampers Drag Performance.

not really for drag performance you want high hp up in the powerband, well you want to for anything except off road and towing stuff.


when your racing how long if at all are the RPm's below 3k LOL, when I race my throttle is down all the way, even when u shift gears the RPM's still stay up in the powerband if your on it. These are't v8's they aren't going to make extreme amounts of torque down low with any style setup.

Buddy If You Shift Right You Should Have Full Power The Whole Track. Just Remember 4th And 5th Gears See The Lowest Rpms When Racing.

not really for drag performance you want high hp up in the powerband, well you want to for anything except off road and towing stuff.


when your racing how long if at all are the RPm's below 3k LOL, when I race my throttle is down all the way, even when u shift gears the RPM's still stay up in the powerband if your on it. These are't v8's they aren't going to make extreme amounts of torque down low with any style setup.

:iagree:

first, its a friggin tip, tips do jack squat except sound like a tin can with marbles. second, its a fuckin gti, of course its goin to win with the same mods. third, my car is a fuckin piece of shit that cant even start with a new battery. tried jumping it, put gas and oil in, and it still wont fuckin start. any one who wants to buy it, gimme an offer, it is definetly a fixeruper

maybe you shouldn't race the car before it runs properly. Thats probably why you lost. The best way to have a fast car is to keep it running properly and race it when it is prepared properly.

i know i shouldnt race it before it runs decently, and besides, the race was for shits and giggles. almost like racing a POS pinto against a 240, the 240 will defintely win. i knew he would win, i just wanted to see by how much. and ive decided to not sell it now. that was just a spontaneous pissed off decision. i love the car to death, and i dont want to drive around a pile of shit corolla right now. and i lost because it would take another 40 hp to be equal to the gti, he had hi performance tires, i had average firestone. i got a bad launch. whatever guys, you still think my car could beat that gti if it ran properly and i could drive it. think that, but its a gti, and pretty quick stock, faster than a 240, :2cents:, and i know how to drive my car just fine. so stop trying to make excuses as to why a 240 got beat by a vw, its not my fault. and btw, niteboy, that gti could prolly eat you and spit you out its tail before you can even start your car. no offense to your car or anything, cuz im sure your car could do the same to mine, but that gti is fuckin fast, and i havent seen anything like it except in shows and movies. (im sheltered, i live in the boonies, with no real cars around.) :2cents:


btw guys, if i offend you in any way, im sorry, im just really pissed off cuz my life isnt so great right now, i just hope it will get better.

peas

you couldn't win in all out acceleration. If you had uber-skill on the track, you might have a chance in a road race. Other than that, the gti would fubar your day up on any occasion. Given no major mods are done.

yeah, my friend has a 2003 gti 1.8T, injen CAI and a diverter valve. I wouldn't necessarily say it's fast, but it is quick. Sources on the net claim the 0-60 to be around 6.6. Unless your Nissan can beat that 0-60...good luck keeping up