can someone tell me....?

I was at the spot last night with some friends.. I had a conversation with this guy who had a 91 Acura Integra..his car was not only a POS with an un painted body kit, but he told me...he was going to go drifting with it next month..now someone correct me if i'm wrong but i thought Integra's were FWD..last time i checked you can't drift a front wheel drive...

Has anyone else run into someone like this? Or am i the only one.. I seem to attract people like this.. Two nights ago i had some kid want to race my best firends 750 Katana with his 98 Civic..he said he could beat it... He lost not only the race but $500 along with it.

I dunno but i hope it's not like this over the summer..because i'll have to move.

Wow. Some dumbasses where you're at.

As for the FF drifting, you can do it, but you can only do a momentum drift, since it's obviously impossible to do any other type.

I saw an article in Shupehr Shtreeht (gay accent on purpose) a while back about this drifting crew that had a Civic in it, and they even gave a step-by-step on how the driver accomplishes the drift with the FF car.

Sorry to go a bit OT, but is that at turn 5 at Summit Point in WV?

that makes sense..but i don't think he could have done it..like i said POS. Besides the fact it was bone stock excpt for a new clutch and some ugly rims and an ugly wing... but thank you to the guy who psted that pic because i would have had to see it to belive it..

and i live in Canton Ohio..everyone here has seen F&F and thinks that if you put flame stickers and an exaust tip on your car that it will run 10 secons..We have to go like two towns over and race the rich kids if we want a challenge..and even then the most heat they pack is like a Mustang Gt witha few mods the rest are honduhs with euro tails and 18 inch rims..i actully saw a guy with spinning hubcaps today..it was pretty bad.

well other then a handful like one displayed you cant really drift FF cars i'm sure hes BSing you.

i know he was..i hope i see his ass this weekend..he said he was getting his body kit painted tommrrow btw..i don't belive him so hopefully he'll show..

Sorry to go a bit OT, but is that at turn 5 at Summit Point in WV?

:dunno:

I'm kinda impressed that you actually knew that though :lol:

I've spent quite a bit of time there over the last few years (including driving 2+ hrs of a 4-hr enduro last Nov), and would almost guaruntee that it's at Summit. Looking at it again, it could be turn 8 as well, I can't remember off the top of my head whether or not 8 has concrete at the apex or not.

Wow. Some dumbasses where you're at.

As for the FF drifting, you can do it, but you can only do a momentum drift, since it's obviously impossible to do any other type.

I saw an article in Shupehr Shtreeht (gay accent on purpose) a while back about this drifting crew that had a Civic in it, and they even gave a step-by-step on how the driver accomplishes the drift with the FF car.

Isnt it called "ASS DRAGGING" or something like that? Using the momentum like you said. Because from what I know, drifting was for "RWD" cars. And doing it in an "AWD car is almost imposible...I think.

Isnt it called "ASS DRAGGING" or something like that? Using the momentum like you said. Because from what I know, drifting was for "RWD" cars. And doing it in an "AWD car is almost imposible...I think.____________________________________________ ________

drift
n 1: a force that moves something along [syn: impetus (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=impetus), impulsion (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=impulsion)] 2: the gradual departure from an intended course due to external influences (as a ship or plane) 3: a process of linguistic change over a period of time 4: something heaped up by the wind or current 5: a general tendency as of opinion: "not openly liberal but that is the tendency of the book" [syn: trend (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=trend)] 6: general meaning or tenor: "caught the drift of the conversation" [syn: purport (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=purport)] 7: (mining) a horizontal (or nearly horizontal) passageway in a mine; "they dug a drift parallel with the vein" [syn: heading (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=heading), gallery (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gallery)] v 1: be in motion due to some air current; "The leaves were blowing in the wind"; "the boat drifted on the lake" [syn: float (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=float), be adrift (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=be%20adrift), blow (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=blow)] 2: wander from a direct course or at random [syn: stray (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stray), err (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=err)] 3: wander about aimlessly; "The gypsies roamed the woods" [syn: wander (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=wander), swan (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=swan), stray (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stray), roam (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=roam), cast (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cast), ramble (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ramble), rove (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rove), range (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=range), vagabond (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vagabond)] 4: be driven or carried along [syn: waft (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=waft)] 5: live irresponsibly or freely [syn: freewheel (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=freewheel)]
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Definition number 2 of drift (the gradual departure from an intended course due to external influences), would be the best suited for the discussion at hand.

My basic point is, a drift is a drift is a drift...although they are meaning to do it, drifters are basically taking the car away from its intended path as suits its purpose and engineering. The drive wheels have nothing to do with the term.

Cars aren't designed from the factory to lose traction. Most accidents are caused by drifts. You slipping on ice is a drift. "Drifters" are just basically doing a controlled form of it.

BTW, watch rally-racing for more than five minutes, and I guarantee you'll see one of the most beautiful things in automotive racing, a controlled, 4-wheel drift. You've probably done it yourself, playing the rally courses in GT A-Spec.

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drift
n 1: a force that moves something along [syn: impetus (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=impetus), impulsion (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=impulsion)] 2: the gradual departure from an intended course due to external influences (as a ship or plane) 3: a process of linguistic change over a period of time 4: something heaped up by the wind or current 5: a general tendency as of opinion: "not openly liberal but that is the tendency of the book" [syn: trend (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=trend)] 6: general meaning or tenor: "caught the drift of the conversation" [syn: purport (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=purport)] 7: (mining) a horizontal (or nearly horizontal) passageway in a mine; "they dug a drift parallel with the vein" [syn: heading (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=heading), gallery (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gallery)] v 1: be in motion due to some air current; "The leaves were blowing in the wind"; "the boat drifted on the lake" [syn: float (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=float), be adrift (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=be%20adrift), blow (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=blow)] 2: wander from a direct course or at random [syn: stray (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stray), err (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=err)] 3: wander about aimlessly; "The gypsies roamed the woods" [syn: wander (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=wander), swan (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=swan), stray (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stray), roam (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=roam), cast (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cast), ramble (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ramble), rove (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rove), range (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=range), vagabond (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vagabond)] 4: be driven or carried along [syn: waft (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=waft)] 5: live irresponsibly or freely [syn: freewheel (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=freewheel)]
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Definition number 2 of drift (the gradual departure from an intended course due to external influences), would be the best suited for the discussion at hand.

My basic point is, a drift is a drift is a drift...although they are meaning to do it, drifters are basically taking the car away from its intended path as suits its purpose and engineering. The drive wheels have nothing to do with the term.

Cars aren't designed from the factory to lose traction. Most accidents are caused by drifts. You slipping on ice is a drift. "Drifters" are just basically doing a controlled form of it.

BTW, watch rally-racing for more than five minutes, and I guarantee you'll see one of the most beautiful things in automotive racing, a controlled, 4-wheel drift. You've probably done it yourself, playing the rally courses in GT A-Spec.


I see what you mean. Something new everyday.

Yeah, I watch rally...They do drift. I just couldnt imagine it on pavement.

Thats funny how you say that adding stickers to a car dosent make it fast. Well the NX RX7 in your sig has one gay ass sticker on the side that was not on the actualy car (im pretty sure).

i don't think it's a sticker dude. looks like he photoshopped in a tag, unless it sticks to the tires too.

Still, its made to look like a sticker. I did notice that it was photoshoped in but still. I dont see why you would isult a car because it has a big sticker on the side when your sig has the same look.

But why drifting? Why is it such a big deal? You actually loose time when you drift in a race. Rally is the only race I know when drifting is a must. Why not this...The brake before turn then use the outer curves of the road then get out of the curve then gun it to the straight (phew)...You guys know the drill (especially those who play Gran Turismo). But why drifting? Can someone please explain to me why its such a big deal.

Its the big "Fad" to be a drifter now. Everyone wants to drift because it looks cool.

I love seeing guysin there cars figure out how to drift and kill a $1000+ set of tires. Or rap it around a poll. Or kill there suspension.
Its like what happens when a new movie comes out

eg. Gone in 60 seconds, the car theft rate in Vancouver went up 112% the week of the release of that movie
The Fast and the Furious, street racing increased 214% the week of the release
2Fast 2Furious, drifting went from nill to HUGE the week it came out.

Now, there was a movie about bick racing and stuff, one called Biker Boys and the other Tourque. Im glad these did not catch on or we would have so many dead people strued across the streets no car could drive anywhere.

I see. Its still no big deal to me. Was just wondering why it was such a big deal. Id rather have grip like AutoX than drifting.

^ I agree

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your car wouldent happen to have a big sticker on it would it?
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It does take alot of skill to drift i wouldent mind learning the finer points of it. but when it comes to the choice of being in or out of control. I like to be in control.

actually if things like tire wear werent a factor drifting would be the fastest way around a corner...not sayin exhibition style drifting at extreme angles n such, but entering corner in a slight slide is faster then braking and using grip and you would exit at a higher speed as well..but of course your tires would suffer and in the long run it would be impractical to use such a method in a multi-lap race though you do see a car "drifting" every now and then to make up lost ground or perhaps pass another car...

actually if things like tire wear werent a factor drifting would be the fastest way around a corner...not sayin exhibition style drifting at extreme angles n such, but entering corner in a slight slide is faster then braking and using grip and you would exit at a higher speed as well..but of course your tires would suffer and in the long run it would be impractical to use such a method in a multi-lap race though you do see a car "drifting" every now and then to make up lost ground or perhaps pass another car...

Thats the reason why I like grip better than drifting. Its the whole thing that you have to look at. Laps of a race, conserving tires and other factors. In the long run...you would save time by conserving your tires and less pitstops.

As a side note, I dont have any real experience racing. My only experience is racing simulations such as Gran Turismo 1, 2, and 3. So I also learn through these simulations and grip is really better than drifting.

Nope, i have no stickers on my car. Well i have one stocker that i just cant get off but its from the dealer.
I dont personaly like stickers, but i do not like when people bash others preferences towards there car. Its like saying that your car should be like mine cause mine is the best kinda deal. I mean it would be no fun if everyone drove a Supra would it.
And i especialy dont like when someone with a simulated sticker on there sig car posts complaning about stickers. So contradictive..

i dont know what you're talking about it would tons of fun if everyone drove supras(twin turbo of course)...cause that would mean I'D be driving one too

Ya you would be driving a Supra. Yor grandma would be driving one. That dumb girl next door who is always on E is driving one. Im sorry but i like my car because it is like me. It is an expresion of what i like and what looks good to me. And if everyone started to copy what i was doing id havew to change it, cause i dot want to be just like everyone else.

i know where your coming from no worries, i was just ribbing ya lol, perhaps i should of incorporated some smilies or such to show how unserious the comment was

you don;t seem to get it..it wasent even a simulated sticker..i dident even make it my girlfriend made it for me. It was just a banner it was alot longer but you couldent read it clearly so i had her shrink it to match the paint on the car.

I dident diss stickers alltogether. I dissed dumb hillbillys for puting them on stock hondas and the like then saying that it runs 12's. Thats what i said.

Nevermind Im confused now :(

Meh... I don't like drifting.

Albeit the two cars I really want are the typical rice boy drift cars. ( the 240, and the RX-7)

Unless I'm fuckin around in a parking lot on a friday afternoon - I want all 4 tires hooked to the road at all times. Makes me feel safer.

actually if things like tire wear werent a factor drifting would be the fastest way around a corner...not sayin exhibition style drifting at extreme angles n such, but entering corner in a slight slide is faster then braking and using grip and you would exit at a higher speed as well..but of course your tires would suffer and in the long run it would be impractical to use such a method in a multi-lap race though you do see a car "drifting" every now and then to make up lost ground or perhaps pass another car...

The ideal corner exit is a 4-wheel drift, with the front and the rear sliding the same amount at the same rate. From outside the car, it looks like the car isn't sliding at all if done right. "drifting" with the back end hung out is only faster in very tight, low speed corners, which really only exist in tarmac WRC rallies. The reasons for this have to do with the characteristics of the interactions of the tires and the pavement (I went more in-depth into this in another thread). If you can see a car "drifting", it is not the fastest way around the corner.

im not talkin about exhibition drifting at extreme angles.. (thought i explained that the first time) i said a slight slide.. which is pretty much what you just explained