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KamiKaze32
03-03-2004, 06:29 PM
Hi i couldnt find a thread on this but for racing what would be faster to get. I want to get an eclipse but im not sure to get AWD or FWD. can someone tell me what would be the fastest one

RomainDeaMarchi
03-03-2004, 06:46 PM
Gsx

JoeWagon
03-03-2004, 07:23 PM
There are many many threads.

Off the line, AWD is better. If you don't worry about traction, the GST has less drivetrain loss, weight, and parts to break.

Chavez408
03-03-2004, 07:49 PM
GSX - from a stop to stop (drag races)



GST - from a role (highway races)

95_GSX
03-03-2004, 08:24 PM
GSX - from a stop to stop (drag races)



GST - from a role (highway races)

But in all reality a GSX can be just as fast off a role as anything else, as long as the propper mods are in place. but the whole "static drag" (having a hard time remebering its proper name) thing does work out for FWD having a top end advantage.

would someone please give me the word i was looking for in my post, it is going to drive me nuts. where is Kevin at to correct me when i need him???? :sly:

JoeWagon
03-03-2004, 08:25 PM
drivetrain loss?

ashah000
03-03-2004, 08:42 PM
static coefficient of friction :dunno:

BoostedSpyder
03-03-2004, 10:34 PM
drivetrain loss?

i second that...

and 95 gsx is right in the bottom of the sig!!!!

95_GSX
03-04-2004, 12:49 PM
static coefficient of friction :dunno:

i am sure that isnt it,i thought a little more about it and static infers that there is no motion, i am refering to the increased drag caused by having 4 tires putting down power instead of just one. which yes simply put is "drivetrain loss" but there is a more technical term for it that i was trying to remember.

ashah000
03-04-2004, 03:20 PM
I guess i cant get physics class out of my head :)

kjewer1
03-04-2004, 11:28 PM
I think you might be refering to a post I made once explaining the different types of loss in the drivetrain. You have the inertia of the parts you need to accelerate, which will go up with power, and the static losses, or losses that are always there. Like the fluid drag, seal drag, bearing drag, etc. I'm not sure if there is a more technical term for it, but I refer to them as static losses because they shouldnt change with an increase in power. Meaning the loss percentage actually goes down with increased power, though total loss still goes up naturally.

That might be it, not sure.

Nalfein
03-05-2004, 02:13 PM
I think the term you're looking for is parasitic drag?

95_GSX
03-05-2004, 07:17 PM
i will call a friend of mine, he will know the term i was looking for. it might have been static coefficient of friction after all my mind decieves me sometimes.;)

ted_ex
04-27-2004, 12:22 AM
drag coefficient?

MR2Driver
04-27-2004, 01:41 AM
Drag Coefficient is a wind-tunnel test result for aerodynamics

KevinE326
04-27-2004, 06:57 PM
no question GSX... go find a local DSM club and just listen to the GST owners whine.

EclipseRST
04-27-2004, 07:11 PM
LMAO...yea i would rather have a GSX but my RST and my GST are awesome, and for the price that both of them cost me i could have never gotten a GSX and be where i am today, i finally got on my GST today after 9 oil changes to get rid of the glitter and 1135 miles on the motor... i can tell there is a lot of potential for 11s :biggrin: i am very happy how this motor and car turned out, now i just need DSMlink! so far i have about $4100 into the car, and hopefully i will get into the 11s!!!

DSMDAD
04-27-2004, 09:04 PM
GSX - from a stop to stop (drag races)



GST - from a role (highway races)

Since when is Roll spelled role? Also, According to the dealer the second gen gst's are the main culprits with crankwalk. I don't know if that is true or not. That's just what they told me. My son has a 96 GSX. It's pretty quick whether your rolling or at a standstill. It's a very high maintenance SOB. The trannys in a 2ng gen don't last much past 110,000. If you buy a DSM be prepared to part with cash often.

EclipseRST
04-27-2004, 09:10 PM
well if you start making power your going to start breaking things... that is a given, also if you beat the shit out of the car, the parts arent goin to last longer than if you baby it! i will put money on it that your son beats the piss out of it! shit i did when i was 16-17yrs old... but now its different, i take care of my shit, cause its my money! try making him pay for the tranny and see how long the next one lasts (i bet a lot longer than if you buy and put in a new tranny), guarenteed he babies the car or he just likes throwing away money if you make him pay for it!!

KevinE326
04-28-2004, 01:15 PM
crankwalk hasnt been attributed to GSTs in particular. Its associated with 7 bolt 4G53 engines whether they are GSX's or GST's.

I've had 3 DSMs and had very little as far as problems go... idle got stupid after I cut the MAF.. duh! and sunroof gave me a prob... but no more than you could expect for a 95 car with a good bit of miles on it. And ya if he's young he will beat that car to hell... I would have at 17-18.... burning up the clutch when launching ALOT.... no timer and no cooling the car down after runs....and just general abuse WILL cause major probs on any car... granted your son could be babying it ?!? I dont know.

As far as main post though.... I stick by my GSX.... you can get em for the same price as a GST now... unless your looking for a mack daddy 99 with 30k miles.... and they are just more fun!

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