Video:Turbo SE-R vs Supercharged Sunfire

1993 SE-R:
T28 turbo kit
HKS intake
HKS exhaust
JWT S3 cams
ACT clutch

1996 Sunfire:
some supercharger
some big-ass exhaust
Aem intake
some clutch
some ecu upgrade

Right click, save as... (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid105/p7ff5cdafed3ba82cb64894f452233fb9/f9782172.mpg)

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linky no worky

Fix that link! I want to see this.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/misc12.jpg

:lol:


Fixy the linky... sounds interesting.

Fix it i wanna see it too. Im guessing the Sunfire has a 2.4l dohc with the gm s/c kit. With the gm sc ecu upgrade. It would be running about 200-220 to the wheels. Im guessing the se-r is in the same range.

I think you have to be signed into imagestation.com for that link to work. Hopefully this direct link will work

Right click, save as...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid105/p7ff5cdafed3ba82cb64894f452233fb9/f9782172.mpg

pretty sweet race, looks like the sunfire launched a little better but couldnt hold that for long

Yeah, actually, despite my best efforts he still took me off the line. I dumped the clutch at about 4k rpm with more than 90% tread on my tires. So there's no way I could've launched any better anyway. Also keep in mind that this race took place at over 5,000ft above sea level so both cars would be faster on a coast.

Not too shabby. From what I gathered from your first post, you just turbo-charged the stock SR20DE, right?

Besides the JWT cams, are you still running stock internals? What boost?

Yeah, all stock internals. It's a JGYcustoms kit but the guy I bought it from haggled them into getting a T28 instead of the standard T25. The motor is a USDM 9.5:1 c/r with just the cams and a Jimwolf ECU.

What boost are you running?

What boost are you running?

Whoops, It's just pumping the stock 7lbs with a Blitz SSBOV and a Greddy turbo timer. No boost control yet... :disappoin

Sweet race. Let's see some more. Have you run it at the track yet? what are you running?

EDIT: Didn't see the signature. Nice ride, man.

I still cant see it.

I still cant see shit even after i sign into gaystation

nice your car really pulled once spooled. sounded great too.

nice your car really pulled once spooled. sounded great too.

Thanks. You can hear my engine better in person, I don't know why the BOV came out so freakin loud on the vid.

And ECOT3C, did you try the 2nd link?

Yes i did. I still got the same thing.

that happened for me too. gotta be saved on your computer to work

UPDATE: I talked to the dude with the Sunfire, and apparently he's got a GM supercharger, a Borla Exhaust(expensive!), AEM intake, an Unorthodox crank pulley and clutch, and some Eibach springs with some KYB shocks. Too bad he spent so much money on it and still lost....AAAHAHAHAHAHAA!......sucker.

nice race man... lovin the BOV :evillol: lets see some more

dude, I love old school se-r's.


Good kill man.

Thanx, Unfortunately I'm uninsured at the moment so no more racing for a while, but yeah, Classic SE-Rs kick ass.

Classic SE-Rs kick ass.

No they don't. They suck.

Then give me yours!

Then give me yours!
Shhh...

I'm trying to expand the idea, designed to perpetrate the stereotype, and increase the shock value of when ricers decide to "play with" my stock "POS"...


...especially when I've saved-up enough to get that DET swap I've been planning since I got my car.



;)

that didn't soundlike a bov at the end it sounded like pure screeching. nonetheless nice kill, pretty quick car.

I still cant see it.

I just downloaded and watched it two seconds ago. Could it be that you just don't want to see it? Anyhow, it is working right now.

Good kill!

He put a bit more money into it than you did but you still came out on top. I still think that Opel engine is called the Ecotec for a reason.

which is worse though-ecotec or zetec?

Sweet vid. Both of you guys definitely know how to drive. That launch was impeccable. I think the Sunfire had a slight lead at first (Probably due to lag), but your car is probably more powerful, or lighter.

which is worse though-ecotec or zetec?

I'll have to go with the Ecotec because, well, I hate Opel and if I say Zetec Neutrino will run over me with his car.

I'll have to go with the Ecotec because, well, I hate Opel and if I say Zetec Neutrino will run over me with his car.

Doesn't Neut's Cougar have a Duratec?

Run him over, Neut! http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/evil_lol.gif

Doesn't Neut's Cougar have a Duratec?

Run him over, Neut! http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/evil_lol.gif

No, the V6 is the Duratec, and the four cylinder all aluminum engine is a Duratec. However, Neutrino's car is the cast iron block/aluminum head Zetec four cylinder.

So, run over Carrnutt! :devil:

No, the V6 is the Duratec, and the four cylinder all aluminum engine is a Duratec. However, Neutrino's car is the cast iron block/aluminum head Zetec four cylinder.

So, run over Carrnutt! :devil:

Oh I thought he had a real car, with the V6 at least...:loser:

I'm not worried about him running me over - he'd have to catch me first! :evillol:

Oh yes now I see the light, Autox is for losers. So I'll buy an civic, drop in a b18C1 with a T4 turbo and a Motec sytem exaust and I'll live my life a quarter mile at a time.:rolleyes:


PS. It was my impression that, Formula Ford, Cosworth Racing, Esslinger etc. did not find the engine that worthless.

I'd take the ecotec over the Zetec ford engine. The ecotec can be amped up to ridiculous levels of performance (900 horsepower i believe on forged internals). I didn't know that the zetec engine was used in the Cosworth?

I'd take the ecotec over the Zetec ford engine. The ecotec can be amped up to ridiculous levels of performance (900 horsepower i believe on forged internals). I didn't know that the zetec engine was used in the Cosworth?



No its never been used by cosworth in WRC for over 15 years, and the Meguiar focus is not powered by an esslinger build zetec with around 1000Hp.

But its more fun to asume its crap.

http://www.meguiars.com/ford_focus/index.cfm
http://www.focuscosworth.co.uk/news/archives/officialrelease.htm

or how about here(list of F1 cars from 92-99):
http://www.euronet.nl/users/guidof/h_cars.html

Look for benneton, sauber, minardi, lotus and a few others

so yes I would say that the involvement of cosworth and zetec engines is quite famous

Dude, I was kidding. Jeesh. And yes, I know all about the Zetec's origins from Cosworth.

Still doesn't change the fact that it's an underpowered motor in a heavy chassis. Ever driven a Classic SE-R in auto-X?

I'm also basing my little joke from an encounter I had a while back, which I never posted here. It was against a 4-cyl Cougar that kept trying to get in front of me in traffic, and started annoying me. After we both caught the same light finally, he decided to drag me and -- it wasn't pretty.

At least I hope it was a 4-cyl...

Sweet vid. Both of you guys definitely know how to drive. That launch was impeccable. I think the Sunfire had a slight lead at first (Probably due to lag), but your car is probably more powerful, or lighter.

Hey thanks, nobody's ever told me I'm good racer. It's nice to hear. Your definitely right about the Sunfire driver tho, he is just as good/maybe better of a driver than me. As for the cars, his is probably a good bit more powerful and much more tourqey but the reason I won is mostly due to my gearing and high redline. Also, if you'll notice...my car didn't run a 13.6 as quoted in my sig. It was at about 6400ft above sea level so the official NHRA time correction is to add about 1.2 seconds to the et. That's why it looks much more like a high 14 run.

Hey thanks, nobody's ever told me I'm good racer. It's nice to hear. Your definitely right about the Sunfire driver tho, he is just as good/maybe better of a driver than me. As for the cars, his is probably a good bit more powerful and much more tourqey but the reason I won is mostly due to my gearing and high redline. Also, if you'll notice...my car didn't run a 13.6 as quoted in my sig. It was at about 6400ft above sea level so the official NHRA time correction is to add about 1.2 seconds to the et. That's why it looks much more like a high 14 run.
He didn't necessarily beat you driving wise. Superchargers have something turbos typically don't have, which is torque down low. His car probably has over 200 ft. lbs. at 2,500 rpms and above (I'm guessing). Turbos have to spool up. I imagien that you are not launching that that high of rpms (Not on street tires). Also turbos typically do better as speeds progress, unless he has a centrifugal style supercharger.

Dude, I was kidding. Jeesh. And yes, I know all about the Zetec's origins from Cosworth.

Still doesn't change the fact that it's an underpowered motor in a heavy chassis. Ever driven a Classic SE-R in auto-X?

I'm also basing my little joke from an encounter I had a while back, which I never posted here. It was against a 4-cyl Cougar that kept trying to get in front of me in traffic, and started annoying me. After we both caught the same light finally, he decided to drag me and -- it wasn't pretty.

At least I hope it was a 4-cyl...


I'm just sick of people bitcing about my car. Constantly people just love to tell me how its a POS and somehow its worthless to AutoX. All this from people that never raced once in their lives. I'm not sure what their problem since I never brag about my car and I'm very aware of its limitations.

So now I log on AF and in some random thread, I see my car brough up again. This is why I got iritated.

I happen to think that no car is worthless for autox, heck I'll take a geo metro and race it. At the point where I am I go autox-ing to improve myself, and any car will teach you something. My car for example has a fairly narrow powerband, understeers like a mother and even has the ocasional nasty snap oversteer. So it forces me to overcome this obstacles. It is also fully devoid of electronic help(yes not even ABS).

Despite all that and the fact that I run on 205, 60 profile all seazon tires and basically 0 mods, In my first autox i managed to almost equal the time of a guy(whose been there before) with an RSX type S running low profile yokohama avs100 tires, and i'm in most autox'es not more that 2-3 seconds behind my friend with a 5.0 extensivelly moded and I mean extensivelly. So either I drive like a psycho or my car is not such a terrible platform after all. You can confirm my times with polygon if you would like.

And I have been in a Classic SE-R in an autox course. One of the guys that i often hang around(because he's among the most knowlegeable) at autox meetings is running an SE-R like yours. So yes I'm very aware on its capabilities.


Hopefully soon as rumor goes we'll be getting the Evo Mr in the states, so I'm saving up to get that since I never tried an AWD car before. That should be an interesting experience.

who cares bout this video, they are 2 cars that have close to zero potential

who cares bout this video, they are 2 cars that have close to zero potential

That's funny you say that, considering the SR20 motor in that Sentra has been boosted to as high as 700+ HP, and the GM four-bangers have been taken to the drag-strip with as much as 1,000HP.

The vid is gone, but the posts in this old thread should give you an idea: 1991 Sentra vs 2003 Cobra (http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20025&perpage=25&pagenumber=1)

Don't knock anything you have NO clue about man. It just makes you look ignorant.

Actually the Ecotec has been taken over 1100 now.

who cares bout this video, they are 2 cars that have close to zero potential

Obviously you care enough to post a reply. Haven't you ever seen a 9-second SE-R? Don't bash unless you know what you're talking about.

he doesn't know what a SR20DET is HAHAHAHA

Go home little boy

Zetec or Ecotec doesn't make any difference to performance because those two variable valve timing systems only work on the exhaust valves.

BUmp!!