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Moppie
02-29-2004, 11:08 PM
Lead by Peter Jackson, Kiwis now do totaly rule the world!

Suislide
02-29-2004, 11:27 PM
justice has finally been served.

YogsVR4
03-01-2004, 09:26 AM
What are you talking about?

I know what LOTR and Peter Jackson but what does that have to do with ruling the world? :sly:

Amish_kid
03-01-2004, 10:04 AM
Is Moppie a Hobbit? Maybe that's why he is so excited one more step in world domination.

carrrnuttt
03-01-2004, 11:05 AM
Is Moppie a Hobbit? Maybe that's why he is so excited one more step in world domination.

He USED to be a Hobbit...

Click for a pic of moppie (http://www.much-ado.net/serkis/gollumpics/gollum.jpg)

goat_launcher
03-01-2004, 12:51 PM
What are you talking about?

I know what LOTR and Peter Jackson but what does that have to do with ruling the world? :sly:

The sooner the academy gets that hobbit shit out of their system , the better. :thefinger

darkness
03-01-2004, 12:55 PM
about freakin time he got some credit.

GO THE KIWIS! :P

jinushaun
03-01-2004, 01:37 PM
I think everyone in New Zealand has been thanked. - Robin Williams

:rofl:

Spec2 Girl
03-01-2004, 01:55 PM
Totally awesome and well deserved for Peter Jackson and all the cast and crew.

zebrathree
03-01-2004, 02:54 PM
Now the Aussies will claim all the winners are theirs.

eversio11
03-01-2004, 03:10 PM
I think everyone in New Zealand has been thanked. - Robin Williams

:rofl:
That would be Billy Crystal that cracked those jokes throughout the night.

As for this 11 for 11 bullshit, it was quite possibly the worst job the academy has ever done. City of God, 21 Grams, Lost in Translation, and In America got robbed. I'm glad a good movie like Mystic River got some highly credited awards at least.

I'm glad the LOTR fad is over. Lets all move on to greater movies.

taranaki
03-01-2004, 03:16 PM
What are you talking about?

I know what LOTR and Peter Jackson but what does that have to do with ruling the world? :sly:

I'm with Yogs on this one.Most of the NewZealanders who are celebrating this as some kind of national triumph had nothing to do whatsoever with its making.It's a film,cribbed from a good book,and made to make a profit.None of the key actors live here,it could just has easily have been made entirely in Hollywood.

Last nights 6 0'clock news bulletin was just plain straight out embarrassing.The important events of the rest of the country,and the world,were swept aside for a massive wankfest of how wonderful it was to win all of these awards for NewZealand...

...it's feet on the ground time.We didn't win anything.Mr Jackson and his employees did.And in the flooded homes and devastated farms of the central North Island tonight,films,television news,and Oscars in particular are of no consequence whatsoever.

zebrathree
03-01-2004, 04:07 PM
Of course thats right Naki. Its a bit like the Americas Cup. Its not a race between nations, its between corperations.

The Aussies will still try to steal any and all credit for anything.

darkness
03-01-2004, 04:31 PM
...it's feet on the ground time.We didn't win anything.Mr Jackson and his employees did.And in the flooded homes and devastated farms of the central North Island tonight,films,television news,and Oscars in particular are of no consequence whatsoever.


oh I agree, it's not a national triumph.

but it's good to see Peter Jackson and all the people involved getting awarded for all the hard work they put in.

and yeah the Aussies will probably try and steal something. they already tried to steal Keisha Castle-Hughes

Jay!
03-01-2004, 04:37 PM
I'm with Yogs on this one.Most of the NewZealanders who are celebrating this as some kind of national triumph had nothing to do whatsoever with its making.It's a film,cribbed from a good book,and made to make a profit.None of the key actors live here,it could just has easily have been made entirely in Hollywood.

Last nights 6 0'clock news bulletin was just plain straight out embarrassing.The important events of the rest of the country,and the world,were swept aside for a massive wankfest of how wonderful it was to win all of these awards for NewZealand...

...it's feet on the ground time.We didn't win anything.Mr Jackson and his employees did.And in the flooded homes and devastated farms of the central North Island tonight,films,television news,and Oscars in particular are of no consequence whatsoever. That's what our stupid nightly news is like all the time. We (meaning the ratings-whore media) only care about Michael Jackson....

Which is why Americans can't find New Zealand on a map. Or they point to Madagascar or something.

:(

The entertainment industry is overrated.

jinushaun
03-01-2004, 04:48 PM
:rofl: @ Kiwi resentment

jinushaun
03-01-2004, 04:51 PM
The way I see it, if it brings corporate investments to NZ, makes the rest of the world aware of NZ, and bringing positive publicity to NZ in general--it's a good thing.

2strokebloke
03-01-2004, 05:14 PM
It was shame they actually got all of those oscars. Although the oscar for best actor didn't go to LOTR, it didn't go to Bill Murray, who certainly deserved it.
Anyway, anytime a movie takes home a large ammount of awards from the academy, you know it's worse than good, it's Titanic good. :P

Toksin
03-01-2004, 05:38 PM
All you cynics should stop fucking whining. They made a mammoth movie,and deserved all the oscars they got. Go PJ, go everyone involved. Stop all this keep the oscars in America BS.

replicant_008
03-01-2004, 06:27 PM
The academy awards consist of an electoral college of various folk 'involved' in the film industry - hence it's the "academy" of motion picture arts and science.

In terms of best actor, Sean Penn is one of Hollywood's best actors although his win was a little surprising given that he doesn't usually turn up to any of the other awards. Bill Murray, Sir Ben Kingsley, Johnny Depp all had stand out performances this year so all deserved nominations.

Don't have a problem with the supporting actor, actress or best actress.

As for the clean sweep of all of the categories for which it was nominated - LOTR: ROTK probably reflected the trilogy as a whole, the vision shown by the folk involved and the massive amounts of funding pumped in by New Line this year for publicity and lobbying academy members. If you had the box office receipts that New Line has accumulated with the three movies, then the best investment you can make is to electioneer for the Oscars to pump your DVD sales into the future...

Call me cynical but that's how any smart business person would do... I certainly would.

(BTW the quote in my sig IS NOT LOTR)

taranaki
03-01-2004, 09:16 PM
(BTW the quote in my sig IS NOT LOTR)

No, but it does tie in nicely with yourr persona. :sunglasse

More thoughts on the Oscars.

1.It's good to see some of the ebullience returning to the ceremony,the last two seem to have been a bit drab and minimalist,for obvious reasons.

2.Given that there are now so many new categories,it would be interesting to see how a film like 'Ben Hur' would perform under similar circumstances.

3.It's amazing how quickly wee Keisha was swept under the red carpet when she failed to bring home a statuette.How fickle the New Zealand press are.

4.Please don't get me wrong,I admire the work of Peter Jackson....but only as far as I admire the work of a good plumber.I pay him to entertain me,he does it well.end of relationship.

5.On the subject of plumbers..why don't we have the American Federation of Heating Engineers And Sewerage Reticulation Specialists televise their industry bashes?Could it be that the industry that owns the cameras has sold us on the notion that their trade piss-ups are more important than anyone elses?

finally,I agree,publicity like this is good for a small country,but only for a limited time.It'll cost a few million and another couple of blockbusters before New Zealand becomes more than just another fleeting trend of the film industry.

Moppie
03-01-2004, 09:48 PM
You bunch of cynical fucking wankers.


25,000 people worked on those 3 movies, and thats not counting the surport of government and local industries. About 99.9% of them were kiwis.
The movies were shot entirly in NZ, useing totaly localy devloped special effects, sets and props. There were written, directed and produced by Kiwis.
They were written by a man who had only one purpose, to entertain and share with the world a very special and very rare talent for turning visions into a reality we can all share.
Now go and watch some of the other Weta workshop films and try and tell me that money was a motivating factor in thier production.


As for making films in NZ, there is quite clearly a future for it, and the success of the LOTR, and the last samuri can only help secure it. It is good for NZ, with the rise of the kiwi dollar and the damge done to farming recently we need all the over seas currency we can get. The last samuri pumped over 100million dollars into the Taranaki region alone, LOTR millions more into other parts of the country, and who knows what other big budget films can be made here, all of which providing a totaly positive spin off.



Now if all you want to do is whine and moan about how sad and pathetic your own life is then go somewhere else.
This thread is for those with a little pride in thier nations achievments, and those who enjoyed the trilogy and believe it and its creators got the recognition they deserved.

zebrathree
03-01-2004, 09:56 PM
Support of govt.

PPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTT

taranaki
03-01-2004, 10:33 PM
You bunch of cynical fucking wankers.





Now if all you want to do is whine and moan about how sad and pathetic your own life is then go somewhere else.
This thread is for those with a little pride in thier nations achievments, and those who enjoyed the trilogy and believe it and its creators got the recognition they deserved.

get over yourself.
:rolleyes:

pride in their nation's achievements?

you must be a truly sad little prick if you need such a thin sliver of reflected glory to make you feel good about yourself.

It's a fucking film for god's sake.About as commercial as a bottle of Watties ketchup.Anyone would think from the tone of our pathetic news programmes that Peter Jackson had discovered a cure for cancer.

You are starting to sound like the kind of nationalist egomaniac that inhabits the political forums.How sad.

Suislide
03-01-2004, 11:19 PM
a big NEWS FLASH to everyone.

this fucking thread is talking about how the Rings movies won some awards.

it is NOT talking about how NZ press is over-exposing the win, it is NOT an "NZ pride!" thread.

it is a fucking "hey, i liked the movies and i'm glad they got some recognition of their greatness."

it may just be a "fucking film for god's sakes", but that's what the thread is about! a fucking film, for god's sakes!

so cut all the political and egotistical bullshit, put your cocks back in your pants, and discuss the topic at hand. if you want to talk about how the NZ news programmes are over-exposing it, then go bitch in Stress Release or politics or where-ever the fuck else.

with that said...

hey, i liked the movies and i'm glad they got some recognition of their greatness.

personally, my jaw was on the floor during all three, and this sweep culminates the achievements of the entire trilogy more then for just the single movie. the first 2 were robbed, and i believe that justice has finally been served.

zebrathree
03-01-2004, 11:23 PM
....put your cocks back in your pants, and discuss the topic at hand.


Errrrrrrr.

xviciousx
03-01-2004, 11:24 PM
a big NEWS FLASH to everyone.

this fucking thread is talking about how the Rings movies won some awards.

it is NOT talking about how NZ press is over-exposing the win, it is NOT an "NZ pride!" thread.

it is a fucking "hey, i liked the movies and i'm glad they got some recognition of their greatness."

it may just be a "fucking film for god's sakes", but that's what the thread is about! a fucking film, for god's sakes!

so cut all the political and egotistical bullshit, put your cocks back in your pants, and discuss the topic at hand. if you want to talk about how the NZ news programmes are over-exposing it, then go bitch in Stress Release or politics or where-ever the fuck else.

with that said...

hey, i liked the movies and i'm glad they got some recognition of their greatness.

personally, my jaw was on the floor during all three, and this sweep culminates the achievements of the entire trilogy more then for just the single movie. the first 2 were robbed, and i believe that justice has finally been served.

Gotta love how Brian's so blunt... Kudos to Brian.

darkness
03-01-2004, 11:38 PM
a big NEWS FLASH to everyone.

this fucking thread is talking about how the Rings movies won some awards.

it is NOT talking about how NZ press is over-exposing the win, it is NOT an "NZ pride!" thread.

it is a fucking "hey, i liked the movies and i'm glad they got some recognition of their greatness."

it may just be a "fucking film for god's sakes", but that's what the thread is about! a fucking film, for god's sakes!

so cut all the political and egotistical bullshit, put your cocks back in your pants, and discuss the topic at hand. if you want to talk about how the NZ news programmes are over-exposing it, then go bitch in Stress Release or politics or where-ever the fuck else.

with that said...

hey, i liked the movies and i'm glad they got some recognition of their greatness.

personally, my jaw was on the floor during all three, and this sweep culminates the achievements of the entire trilogy more then for just the single movie. the first 2 were robbed, and i believe that justice has finally been served.



and the award for "Best Telling Off on an Internet Forum" goes to.................

Toksin
03-02-2004, 12:32 AM
Bri-0wned!

taranaki
03-02-2004, 12:52 AM
Meh.It's a good film.Not the first,not the last.

Titanic won a shitload of Oscars too,but I don't own it on video.

crayzayjay
03-02-2004, 04:58 AM
bah.. i didnt even think the third one was very good... the first two, absolutely, but the last one's gargantuan cheesyness made me want to leave before the end.

Bill Murray should have got best actor for improvising most of the good scenes in Lost in translation. But who cares, they're just movies...

YogsVR4
03-02-2004, 10:21 AM
When I originally asked the question as to what the 11 in 11 was about (ruling the world?). I didn't know it was about the Oscars. I tend not to pay attention to award shows that are sponsered by the people who did the work. Self congradulatory events don't interest me much.

The LOTR movies were really entertaining. If a few in NZ get an ego boost from the fact it was filmed there and put some $$ in peoples pockets then thats just peachy.

The euphoria over this minor accomplishment will fade.

replicant_008
03-02-2004, 05:06 PM
Cynic - a person who has little faith in human sincerity and integrity...

Who me? There I was alleging the whole thing was about pumping money in to lobby for Oscars to maximise/milk the box office and DVD Sales... naw can't be... just me being typically Rep and seeing shadows when there's only the celebration of some special...

...but then there's this gem...

The Return of 'The Return of the King'

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/57/18/16s.jpgNew Line is hoping to capitalize on the overwhelming Oscar success of The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167260/) by returning it to more than 2,000 theaters next weekend. The film, which fell out of the top ten for the first time last weekend, has now grossed $364.1 million domestically, and New Line distribution chief David Tuckerman told today's (Tuesday) Los Angeles Daily News that he believes the film has not yet realized its potential. "There are groups of people that haven't seen it yet because of the length [more than 3.5 hours] or there are probably some who are afraid to see it because they haven't seen the first two. But this film stands out on its own, so we have to reach these people and tell them, it's OK; you can see it."

(and then Rep quietly steps back and throws down a two pair hand of black eights and black aces and says "QED amigo?")

Spec2 Girl
03-02-2004, 06:02 PM
All you cynics should stop fucking whining. They made a mammoth movie,and deserved all the oscars they got. Go PJ, go everyone involved. Stop all this keep the oscars in America BS.I totally agree. Those movies were amazing. OK they were adapted from a book but if anyone has actually watched the collectors edition DVDs you will see how much time and effort from everyone involved went in. You cannot deny that they were well deserved. Also bear in mind that the awards weren’t just for Return of the King they were for the entire 3 hence why they never got many awards before for the first two movies.

darkness
03-02-2004, 06:38 PM
and besides NZ has a huge issue with "tall poppy" syndrome.

moondog
03-02-2004, 09:20 PM
What I'm most pleased about is that finally a fantasy film got the Best Picture award. That's never happened before - because of this sort of attitude: The sooner the academy gets that hobbit shit out of their system , the better. (I don't know whether you meant it seriously or not, but a lot of people do, and it's consistently kept fantasy - and science fiction - films out of the top awards. I don't regard it as a national triumph; I never have. But Peter Jackson is a fewkin' genius, and he managed to get pretty much the best people around to do the costumnes, makeup, effects etc, and also managed to find in most cases the perfect actors for the parts. I think he - and they - deserved to be recognised for 7 years (or whatever) of stupendous effort. And bloody good on them.

Its main effect on me is just that I'll have some 13 hours of awesome cinema to watch back to back once the Return of the King extended edition dvd comes out. :D

Moppie
03-02-2004, 11:35 PM
Thank you Moon, Im glad Im not the only Kiwi who feels that way.



Rep, I spent 6 years learning how to become a cynic, and philosophicaly I am one (that has a definition that would take a 5 thousand word essay to give justice to).
Part of being a true cynic is the ablity to be cynical of everything, especialy other cynics, or at least thier cynical views.

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