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Should we respect our teachers?


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jcz1987
02-24-2004, 11:41 PM
Today, I was at school in my oceanography class and was doing the usual work. While my class was taking notes, one of my classmates asked a question to the teacher. She tells "him" to look it up himself because she has had enough us complaining to her about what is everything. And one girl all of a sudden speaks out and says "Why are you telling me instead of the rest of the class?" My teacher replies in saying, "No I am talking to the rest of the class." And the girl replies "But no you are looking at me while you were talking." My teacher just decides to tell her to leave the class and go outside and to bring her belongings. I don't what was up with her but my classmate decides to purposely take her time packing all her belongings. So my teachers just tells her to get out without her belongings. Before she leaves she says "Jesus fucking Chirst" and "Bye guys." and some of the class starts to clap to support our classmate. My teacher ask why we clapped. And then she decides to stop teaching for the day and makes a quiz for the rest of the class for tommorow. Sorry to tell about this but who should I support my teacher or my classmate?

Chris
02-24-2004, 11:44 PM
Sounds like the teacher was just having a bad day man, it happens to everyone. Hopefully she'll straighten out by next week.

jcz1987
02-24-2004, 11:51 PM
Yeah! But she been acting like this for the past few days. I don't know what goin g on with her. Also I think that that girl who was sassing back at my teacher should have thinked before what she was saying. But still I don't know who to support more?

craigcully
02-24-2004, 11:59 PM
Maybe I don't understand the situation completely but it sounds like the teacher was kinda out of hand in this situation, she probably could have handled it better. But then again maybe she is justified in her action. Tough call, but really in most situations I have seen the teacher usually is doing the right thing, but there are always exceptions

TheNotoriousMogg
02-25-2004, 12:00 AM
Everyone has bad days man. Maybe she has issues off school that are bothering her, she should seperate the 2 but sometimes people aren't capable of that. Just give it a few days, I am sure it will pass.

Chavez408
02-25-2004, 12:05 AM
shes on her period!

jcz1987
02-25-2004, 12:08 AM
shes on her period!

I was just thinking about that. Are they both on their periods?

Chris
02-25-2004, 12:12 AM
PMS, a bad breakup (bf cheating or something), problems with parents/friends/family, money troubles, anything like that can get someone into a bad mood for a bit of time. Just stay outta her way, you cant do anything about it.
It sucks, but, thats just the way things go.
If she keeps it up for more than 2 weeks, then, there could be reason to try and tell her your concerns, and if she shoots you down, talk to the principal....or have your parents talk to the principal. If your in Uni/college, talk to the dean of that department.

jcz1987
02-25-2004, 12:19 AM
Most of the time, my teacher will try to purposely embarass a student in fron t of the class to either discilpline them or to shut them up. But she has been doing it more often.

Chavez408
02-25-2004, 12:24 AM
my coach (football coach) is my history teacher his always makin' fun of his students..callin' them duffes, crackheads, idiots...stuff like that but none of us take it personaly because we kno' his just playin' and is tryin' to liten us up and the others ;)

but that is how my teacher is thats how his relantionship he has with his students i dont kno' 'bout ur teacher's

im just tryin' to give you an example :D

Mediocrity
02-25-2004, 12:35 AM
It sounds like your teacher isn't doing her damn job. A teachers job is to teach... if a student has a question then she should answer it. That's what her job description is all about. If all teacher's did was tell us to look shit up on our own then we wouldn't fucking need them to teach us - we'd just go look it up by ourselves.

Oz
02-25-2004, 01:59 AM
:gives:

TheNotoriousMogg
02-25-2004, 02:24 AM
:gives:

:grinno:

Grant, the village asshole

zebrathree
02-25-2004, 02:24 AM
No, you don't need to respect SOME teachers.

Thats because we don't need no education, we don't need no thought control.

All in all, you're just another brick in the wall.

(C'mon, someone was going to say it before I did).

Oz
02-25-2004, 02:29 AM
Do you really need to be asking a question like this to an anonymous internet board? Is that a good place to get moral structure and determine right from wrong. I'm fairly sure you had your mind made up before posing the question.

And no, don't respect people out of course or because of their position. Respect them because they earn it.

Toksin
02-25-2004, 03:21 AM
Hey, zebra, leave that kid alone!

She's underage!

asaenz
02-25-2004, 05:54 AM
Well, we should respect all people and show restraint in our reactions to mistreatment, not that I always do that. :)

It seems that the teacher needs to take a communication class, and learn how to persuade people to do what she wants (in this case look stuff up). I mean look what her tone/choice of words caused all that could have been avoided is she spoke more nicely to the student/class.

ex. Look class I am very busy right now could you pls. try and look the info. up 1st and then if you cannot find it I will help you.

:2cents:

speediva
02-25-2004, 09:23 AM
Okay, coming from a future teacher, myself... Teachers have lives outside of class, like someone else said. Granted, she should be able to leave the baggage at the door, but sometimes the smallest things will set you off anyway. Perhaps in telling someone to look something up, she was encouraging extracurricular involvement (I don't mean sports here, people). Her tone might not have reflected it, but in her mind she might have thought it to be innocent. Again, TALK WITH THE TEACHER. We need feedback in forms besides exams and papers. If she is creating a hostile atmosphere, it's not conducive to learning, and thus her purpose is diminished. If she doesn't shape up after a few weeks, then, yes it's time to go "ladder climbing" to her superior.

TexasF355F1
02-25-2004, 10:57 AM
What a bitch! I would have told her off too. Teachers are suppose to help you.

Porsche
02-25-2004, 12:22 PM
Not everyday is a good day for everybody, or week even. Teachers have it pretty rough as far as I'm concerned, that teacher should have busted out the belt, kids are so out of line these days.

zebrathree
02-25-2004, 12:30 PM
Hey, zebra, leave that kid alone!

She's underage!

Who is?

Oh I see, you're mocking me, arn't you?

Well we'll see, oh yes, we will see.

jcz1987
02-25-2004, 09:31 PM
Went today to my class. My teacher decided to make strict rules on us.

jcz1987
02-25-2004, 09:38 PM
Went today to my class. My teacher decided to make strict rules on us.

D[X]P
02-25-2004, 10:42 PM
shes on her period!
:lol2: :lol2:

Seriously though, shes either having bad days or just becoming a bitch

publicenemy137
02-25-2004, 11:08 PM
I dunno about you all but maybe the teacher is right. It's probably annoying to spoon-feed information to these kids. If they really would like to know, they can look in the book. Also she said she wasn't directing it towards that girl, but that girl had to get all bitchy and say "But you were looking at me." If the teacher really meant it she would have said it at the student's face. I mean the teacher has to look at one of her students.

The student just had to make a big case about it and have attitude.

Oz is right though, position doesn't dictate respect, it's the person. And if the person believes that, (i.e. supervisors, cops) then they don't deserve any respect.

jcz1987
02-25-2004, 11:47 PM
The student just had to make a big case about it and have attitude.

I know, that girl has a terrible attitude. She acts immature for her age plus shes acts like those other airheaded chicks that get A's for being good looking and flirt with the male teachers.

Mediocrity
02-25-2004, 11:47 PM
uh... publicenemy... I might remind you of what teachers do - teach. It's more or less her job to tell the student what the answer is...

Toksin
02-25-2004, 11:52 PM
There's a difference between teaching and spoonfeeding. You can't teach someone if they're not willing to learn.

zebrathree
02-26-2004, 12:27 AM
uh... publicenemy... I might remind you of what teachers do - teach. It's more or less her job to tell the student what the answer is...

I disagree.

The best teachers don't dictate the answers, but they never not do anything either.

How does that work, Oh great Striped Horse, you ask?

Well, the best teachers GUIDE their students to the answer. There is no point in knowing Hitler went to Stalingrad for the Caucusus Oil Fields if you don't know WHY he went there, for example.

Its all in the process.

speediva
02-26-2004, 08:57 AM
Right on, Zebra. It's a "new age" technique called "discovery". Kids learn better when they get to explore answers for themselves instead of by rote memory.

zebrathree
02-26-2004, 12:07 PM
I think rote still has a place though; I learnt all the bits of the Crimes Act I need to know for work by it, and it worked well. But it seems it only works for non-dynamic things.

Whoa, decent post. My vision is going blurry!

D[X]P
02-26-2004, 07:11 PM
Lol, dude go to sleep, wake up, and post again! :evillol:

D[X]P
02-26-2004, 07:17 PM
Right on, Zebra. It's a "new age" technique called "discovery". Kids learn better when they get to explore answers for themselves instead of by rote memory.
Me not likey that technique! :smokin:

jcz1987
02-26-2004, 11:56 PM
Right on, Zebra. It's a "new age" technique called "discovery". Kids learn better when they get to explore answers for themselves instead of by rote memory.

I agree. I learn more when I look it up myself.

D[X]P
02-28-2004, 12:32 AM
I agree. I learn more when I look it up myself.
Well, I do too.But if i had to do that for every single thing for every single class that would be a pain the arse cuz i have "honor" classes.

jcz1987
02-28-2004, 12:36 AM
P']Well, I do too.But if i had to do that for every single thing for every single class that would be a pain the arse cuz i have "honor" classes.

Yeah I have two honor classes but those teachers actually help students and show us what to do.

D[X]P
02-28-2004, 12:40 AM
Yeah same here. Except for biology, the teacher knows the material well just doesn't know how to teach. And gives hella hard projects as well. And he just said he wont be the "provided of information". I got so pissed at tht. So far this whole year my highest test grade was a B. Thats how hard it is. Shit i mean, i used to have an A in science last year. Now i got an F on the final...... :disappoin :icon16:

jcz1987
02-28-2004, 01:10 AM
P']Yeah same here. Except for biology, the teacher knows the material well just doesn't know how to teach. And gives hella hard projects as well. And he just said he wont be the "provided of information". I got so pissed at tht. So far this whole year my highest test grade was a B. Thats how hard it is. Shit i mean, i used to have an A in science last year. Now i got an F on the final...... :disappoin :icon16:

Biology is hard. I got an A- at the end of the year. I had to study for that class everyday.

D[X]P
02-29-2004, 12:03 AM
Yeh

Well, for instance the last test we took was one page pre made test for the book and the other was a page made by the teacher. On the premade i got like -0 and on the other i got like -12.

Biology is fun...but too much studying

jcz1987
02-29-2004, 12:08 AM
Biology is fun. It requires a lot of studying. I had to study everyday. My favorite thing doing was disecting animals such as frogs, pigs, sheep brain, etc.

D[X]P
02-29-2004, 12:18 AM
I really hate the studying part. Mostly cause i know the teacher will put some tricky ass questions on the test. Even when i study, it doesnt seem to make a difference. I guess studying 3 days before the test comes up isnt enough :rolleyes:

jcz1987
02-29-2004, 12:23 AM
When you get to the next chapter, you have to start studying right away in order to know everything.

D[X]P
02-29-2004, 12:41 AM
yeah, its a pain in the ass.....

jcz1987
02-29-2004, 06:42 PM
Well, once your done with biology, you don't have to worry about that anymore.

jinushaun
03-01-2004, 01:38 PM
You should respect people period, it shouldn't be based on position. And you can lose respect.

D[X]P
03-01-2004, 10:43 PM
Well, once your done with biology, you don't have to worry about that anymore.
yes.........

D[X]P
03-01-2004, 10:45 PM
You should respect people period, it shouldn't be based on position. And you can lose respect.
hmm.....why didnt i think of this before...j/k


Yes, all people should be respected.....if they dont respect you dont respect them. Simple as that!

jcz1987
03-03-2004, 01:02 AM
Well. Its still hard to say who you should respect. But overall, I would rather respect my teacher than a classmate that would be a bitch and complain.

Toksin
03-03-2004, 04:38 AM
My respectometer is like PH scale. Everyone starts out at neutral. From there it's either up or down, with no limits on either end.

zebrathree
03-03-2004, 04:40 AM
There was an upper limit for Williams, IRC.

NSX-R-SSJ20K
03-03-2004, 05:45 AM
we rely on TV for moral values and religion which are both medium for crap so whats wrong with forums?

il_3abee6
03-03-2004, 11:52 AM
ure friend shouldnt have swore (out loud ne way) at the teacher, AND THERE IS SOMETHING U CAN DO ABOUT IT, don't "complain to ure teacher" but be intelligent, in an annoying way, i do it all the time, 1) be padantic ( i had to look it up in a dictionary the first time they sed i was being padantic) 2) Argue with anything the teacher says ( that is worth arguing about) 3) nag 4) remind the teacher that you have your rights 5) when thats over take any chance you get to have a normal conversation with your teacher yes i know it sound wierd to make your teacher mad and then have a conversation with them but it works

jcz1987
03-03-2004, 02:29 PM
ure friend shouldnt have swore (out loud ne way) at the teacher,

Well, shes not my friend. She would probably be one of those people that look cool by showing off and acting slutty. Those are the people you stay away from.

D[X]P
03-04-2004, 05:20 PM
Well, shes not my friend. She would probably be one of those people that look cool by showing off and acting slutty. Those are the people you stay away from.
:lol2: :lol2:

jcz1987
03-04-2004, 11:29 PM
I'm glad you find it funny D[X]P!

KatWoman
03-06-2004, 12:37 PM
There's a difference between teaching and spoonfeeding. You can't teach someone if they're not willing to learn.


http://www.katwoman097.com/uploads/smileys/werd001.gif

Everyone expects to be spoonfed these days. No one wants to get their ass off the couch and go find out info for themselves. I see this everywhere, not just in the classroom.

Mediocrity
03-06-2004, 02:42 PM
If we had to "get our asses off the couch and go find out info for ourselves" we wouldn't fucking need teachers.

Teachers are there for a reason - to teach us. We ask questions - they answer. I think the spirit of what being a teacher means was lost when we had standardized schooling.

D[X]P
03-07-2004, 10:12 AM
I'm glad you find it funny D[X]P!
:grinno: :disappoin :screwy:

lol

speediva
03-07-2004, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Mediocrity
If we had to "get our asses off the couch and go find out info for ourselves" we wouldn't fucking need teachers.

Teachers are there for a reason - to teach us. We ask questions - they answer. I think the spirit of what being a teacher means was lost when we had standardized schooling.

Lemme guess, you want to be spoon-fed? We are there to GUIDE... not to cram it up your rectum for you to spew back out on an exam. Learning requires work on both the students' and the teachers' parts... spoon-feeding requires only a spoon and an anus.

Mediocrity
03-07-2004, 08:08 PM
Uhm... let's fucking see.

My parents' taxes went to paying for your fucking job.

And now my own god damn money goes to paying for more teachers' jobs.

You're god damn right I want to be taught this shit and not told to go home and look it up. I'm not shelling out 4 fucking grand a year for some professor to tell me I can look shit up myself.

Yes I understand it's common practice to also have a textbook to read for this shit too. But if a student outright just asks a question in the middle of a class - a teacher should at least fucking answer it. Seeing as how it's their job.


PS - sorry for all the vulgarity - that's just how I am.

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